wow....

shit, here we go again having to listen to freedumb and all y'all defend this thug.

thanks SF.

I do what I can for you....

I am not sure what to do about this cop....

1) He should be tossed in jail for hitting that girl in the face

2) He should be mocked mercilessly for not being able to cuff the second girl

3) He should have his ass kicked for hitting that girl in the face
 
rich cities have too many cops and poor ones have too few. Ya think Detroit cops bother with Jaywalkers?
 
He punched her for interfering with his arrest, which was justified.


I have to agree. While shocking that he punched her, it looked pretty clear to me he did so because it looked like the two could have gone after him, and quite possibly the crowd.

As far as being able to cuff her, I would imagine that having all those people around and just punching the other one in the face, caused him to not get any more rough than he already had.
 
I have to agree. While shocking that he punched her, it looked pretty clear to me he did so because it looked like the two could have gone after him, and quite possibly the crowd.

As far as being able to cuff her, I would imagine that having all those people around and just punching the other one in the face, caused him to not get any more rough than he already had.

I disagree....keep in mind... white cop... black civilians... if he was worried about the crowd going after him.... punching a black teenage girl in the face was not likely to help. To be honest, I am impressed the crowd didn't beat the shit out of him for it.

Man hitting woman = coward

Plain and simple.
 
true, it was stupid on her part, but that does not justify his response.

From watching the video, I have to conclude that he didn't pay much attention during his training to restraining techniques. That was pretty lame to say the least. The punch itself was totally out of line; he should have had far better control from the outset.

At the same time, I doubt that he expected any sort of physical confrontation associated with a jaywalking stop, either!
 
From watching the video, I have to conclude that he didn't pay much attention during his training to restraining techniques. That was pretty lame to say the least. The punch itself was totally out of line; he should have had far better control from the outset.

At the same time, I doubt that he expected any sort of physical confrontation associated with a jaywalking stop, either!

I would agree that if he keeps his job, he should be required to go through training again. He looked completely inept at restraining her. It is not that hard to get a simple arm bar in place to put the cuffs on.
 
true, it was stupid on her part, but that does not justify his response.

Agreed. It looked a bit over the top. Not sure what the Use of Force Regs are in a situation like this.

Would being smacked with his baton or maced been more appropriate? His body language cried out "threat!"

Obviously he felt outnumbered and the sheer make up and size of the crowd, probably exacerbated the situation. It could very well have gotten out of control and others may have joined in. I am sure he was jacked up over just that possibility.
 
I disagree....keep in mind... white cop... black civilians... if he was worried about the crowd going after him.... punching a black teenage girl in the face was not likely to help. To be honest, I am impressed the crowd didn't beat the shit out of him for it.

Man hitting woman = coward

Plain and simple.

I have no problem with you disagreeing with me. Same thing will/would happen if this went to a jury.

Man hitting woman typically does equal coward. Police Officer hitting woman however is different, in my humble opinion.
 
Had it been a man, would the punch have been justified? The short simple answer is yes. He could have legitimately pulled pepper spray and nuked her. Yes the punch was shocking, but not out of line. She was escalating and continued to fight not only the officer but the guy trying to keep her away from the cop. This is one time I think the cop was in over his head but not out of line using force.
 

Use of force regulations

http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/176330-1.pdf





Law enforcement officers are authorized
to use force in specified circumstances,
are trained in the use of force, and typically
face numerous circumstances during their
careers when use of force is appropriate—for
example, in making some arrests, restraining
unruly combatants, or controlling a disruptive
demonstration.

When the level of
force exceeds the level considered justifiable
under the circumstances, however, the activities
of the police come under public scrutiny.
Incidents involving the use of excessive force
by the police frequently receive attention
from the media, legislators, and, in some
instances, civil and even criminal courts.
Whether the excessive force is aberrant
behavior of individual officers or is a pattern
and practice of an entire law enforcement
agency, both the law and public opinion
condemn such incidents.

This report is one in a series of publications
by the National Institute of Justice (NIJ)
and the Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS)
that seek to inform public discussion by
examining police use of force from many perspectives.
 
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