Why Obama will lose this November
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While it is possible Americans will vote in another buffoon similar to Bush II, it seems unlikely this time. Republicans have made themselves the radicals of the ridiculous.
http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?35351-Republican-Ideology-through-History
"Americans may have elected a Republican president and Congress, but they are unlikely to go back to a world in which one illness can devastate their last years or one storm can destroy their lives. Because government is the one institution that allows us some control over our future, conservatism, which distrusts government so much, is best viewed as a natural counter to liberalism, which, if left unchecked, tends towards wasteful bureaucracy. Indeed, as the Bush administration fully proves, conservatism remains a force of opposition even when it purports to be a governance party. And so the best that can be hoped for is that American voters will do for conservatives what they are unable to do themselves: to vote them out of office." "Why Conservatives Can't Govern" by Alan Wolfe
"Republicans approve of the American farmer, but they are willing to help him go broke. They stand four-square for the American home -but not for housing. They are strong for labor - but they are stronger for restricting labor's rights. They favor minimum wage - the smaller the minimum wage the better. They endorse educational opportunity for all - but they won't spend money for teachers or for schools. They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine - for people who can afford them. They consider electrical power a great blessing - but only when the private power companies get their rake-off. They think American standard of living is a fine thing - so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire of Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it." Harry S. Truman
http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?35351-Republican-Ideology-through-History
"Americans may have elected a Republican president and Congress, but they are unlikely to go back to a world in which one illness can devastate their last years or one storm can destroy their lives. Because government is the one institution that allows us some control over our future, conservatism, which distrusts government so much, is best viewed as a natural counter to liberalism, which, if left unchecked, tends towards wasteful bureaucracy. Indeed, as the Bush administration fully proves, conservatism remains a force of opposition even when it purports to be a governance party. And so the best that can be hoped for is that American voters will do for conservatives what they are unable to do themselves: to vote them out of office." "Why Conservatives Can't Govern" by Alan Wolfe
"Republicans approve of the American farmer, but they are willing to help him go broke. They stand four-square for the American home -but not for housing. They are strong for labor - but they are stronger for restricting labor's rights. They favor minimum wage - the smaller the minimum wage the better. They endorse educational opportunity for all - but they won't spend money for teachers or for schools. They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine - for people who can afford them. They consider electrical power a great blessing - but only when the private power companies get their rake-off. They think American standard of living is a fine thing - so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire of Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it." Harry S. Truman
j-mac
Verified User
That is the leftest view I am aware. Hell, who couldn't be when it is pushed at you in the rudest, most vitriolic way possible for 45 years or more.
Since the inception of this country our citizens have worked, learned, sweated, and cried tears of blood for the American dream. Part of that dream is that their children will prosper more than they did. Now you have 86% of the country whom either doesn't think that will happen, or doesn't know, and you still think Obama is a better choice? Hell, he is the reason they are scared.
apple0154
MEOW
Nobody is going to be bringing back the jobs that are gone. The world has changed. That doesn't mean the American people have to suffer. There is still plenty for everyone.
j-mac
Verified User
Again, nonsense. Many that have those jobs overseas would love to bring them home if they knew they weren't going to get hammered out of business if they did...Obama's transformation is to keep them gone. How else do you bring down capitalism?
Billy the Great Khan
Uwaa OmO
The only way a Bush clone won't win is if Gary Johnson does win.
j-mac
Verified User
Line up that therapist now...The wait could be long after the election...
apple0154
MEOW
There is no way US workers can compete with the wages overseas. Also, there is a growing market overseas. What is the point of, say, making shoes here to send to China when the shoes can be made in China for much lower cost and sold in China?
All the bullshit about taxes and health insurance and government interference does not add up to the labor savings.
Average annual income in China is around 88,340 CNY (14,000 USD),
http://www.averagesalarysurvey.com/article/average-salary-in-china/15201531.aspx
Though manufacturing workers in China are earning more than ever before, average hourly compensation costs were only $1.36 in 2008.
http://www.ventureoutsource.com/con...ring-hourly-labor-rate-compensation-costs-ems
The annual (US) median wage fell in 2010 for the second year in a row to $26,364
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/...s-optimism-reaches-10-year-low_n_1022118.html
The national average wage index for 2010 is $41,673.83.
http://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/AWI.html
Regardless how the numbers are crunched there is huge difference between wages. Even if US worker's salaries were chopped in half and no benefits whatsoever were offered there would still be transportation costs half way around the world along with customs inspections, port fees, moving items from ships to trucks, etc. The current reality is being blamed on government interference and taxes when both have very little to do with anything. The problem is how do we, as a society, ensure it does not stratify to the point where some people go hungry and lack basic medical care while others sit on resources (money) resulting in a man-made injustice.
