What is it like to live in China as a Han Chinese?

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Jack Grealish

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I myself am Han Chinese. Frankly, I don't feel anything particularly special about it. Among my friends are Hui, Mongolian, Manchu, Korean, and Miao (these terms refer to China's ethnic minorities). In reality, it's difficult to truly distinguish different ethnicities based solely on appearance. Of course, some ethnic groups have more distinct facial features, but this isn't absolute. For example, some Han Chinese look very much like Mongolians.

In real-life situations, people rarely ask "What's your ethnicity?" but rather "Where are you from?" Ethnicity isn't a very important factor. Because in reality, there's not much difference. What I mean is, in today's China, even if you're Uyghur, young Uyghur children are still using their phones, playing computer games, watching TikTok (the Chinese version is Douyin), and studying math, physics, chemistry, and computer science in school. What's the difference?

Some Westerners imagine China as a "museum of humanity," as if every Chinese person, regardless of ethnicity, must act as a carrier of some kind of history and culture. These Westerners often say, "I love China; China's history and culture are so rich." However, this contains an unrealistic expectation, as if Chinese people must live in a way that Westerners imagine is "characterized by history and culture." This is a very unrealistic fantasy.
 
Jack Grealish said:
I myself am Han Chinese. Frankly, I don't feel anything particularly special about it. Among my friends are Hui, Mongolian, Manchu, Korean, and Miao (these terms refer to China's ethnic minorities). In reality, it's difficult to truly distinguish different ethnicities based solely on appearance. Of course, some ethnic groups have more distinct facial features, but this isn't absolute. For example, some Han Chinese look very much like Mongolians.

In real-life situations, people rarely ask "What's your ethnicity?" but rather "Where are you from?" Ethnicity isn't a very important factor. Because in reality, there's not much difference. What I mean is, in today's China, even if you're Uyghur, young Uyghur children are still using their phones, playing computer games, watching TikTok (the Chinese version is Douyin), and studying math, physics, chemistry, and computer science in school. What's the difference?

Some Westerners imagine China as a "museum of humanity," as if every Chinese person, regardless of ethnicity, must act as a carrier of some kind of history and culture. These Westerners often say, "I love China; China's history and culture are so rich." However, this contains an unrealistic expectation, as if Chinese people must live in a way that Westerners imagine is "characterized by history and culture." This is a very unrealistic fantasy.
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I did not read this but the degree to which you are Han I doubt.
 
Jack, you sound like one of those Chinese government shills that sits at a computer posting social media all day praising the CCP for all of its supposed glorious wonders and such.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Jack, you sound like one of those Chinese government shills that sits at a computer posting social media all day praising the CCP for all of its supposed glorious wonders and such.
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In my view, the problem is that Western media portrays the daily lives of Chinese people as so bleak that when an ordinary Chinese person describes some of the most commonplace aspects of daily life to you, you think it's praise for the CCP.
 
Jack Grealish said:
In my view, the problem is that Western media portrays the daily lives of Chinese people as so bleak that when an ordinary Chinese person describes some of the most commonplace aspects of daily life to you, you think it's praise for the CCP.
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When Westerners go to China they know in 5 minutes that they have been lied to.
 
Jack Grealish said:
In my view, the problem is that Western media portrays the daily lives of Chinese people as so bleak that when an ordinary Chinese person describes some of the most commonplace aspects of daily life to you, you think it's praise for the CCP.
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I don't think that the average Chinese person leads a bleak life. Sure, like many Japanese and Koreans, they can be badly overworked by their employer but on the whole they have it much better than they did say 50 years ago.

Of course, if you happen to be in a category of minority that isn't in favor with the CCP like the Uyghurs, things can be pretty rough for you.

Also, given the CCP's Social Credit System, there is an underlying pressure on everyone to conform--or else. That one is straight out of Orwell's 1984.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I don't think that the average Chinese person leads a bleak life. Sure, like many Japanese and Koreans, they can be badly overworked by their employer but on the whole they have it much better than they did say 50 years ago.

Of course, if you happen to be in a category of minority that isn't in favor with the CCP like the Uyghurs, things can be pretty rough for you.

Also, given the CCP's Social Credit System, there is an underlying pressure on everyone to conform--or else. That one is straight out of Orwell's 1984.
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China has 50km of HSR....America has zero.....we decided to spend all of our money on war.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I don't think that the average Chinese person leads a bleak life. Sure, like many Japanese and Koreans, they can be badly overworked by their employer but on the whole they have it much better than they did say 50 years ago.

Of course, if you happen to be in a category of minority that isn't in favor with the CCP like the Uyghurs, things can be pretty rough for you.

Also, given the CCP's Social Credit System, there is an underlying pressure on everyone to conform--or else. That one is straight out of Orwell's 1984.
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you still believe in the myth of "social credit system"
 
I thought that Americans would be generally wary of terrorists who chanted "allah 'akbaru" but it turns out that when these terrorists appeared in China, Americans would consider them freedom fighters.
 
Jack Grealish said:
I thought that Americans would be generally wary of terrorists who chanted "allah 'akbaru" but it turns out that when these terrorists appeared in China, Americans would consider them freedom fighters.
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The difference is America doesn't simply round up every Muslim or person of Arab descent and throw them in a prison labor camp.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
The difference is America doesn't simply round up every Muslim or person of Arab descent and throw them in a prison labor camp.
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What I mean is that your country has spent 20 years in the Middle East fighting terrorism, dropping countless bombs. China's counter-terrorism measures, on the other hand, are merely mild methods, negligible compared to parts of the Middle East, yet you describe them as genocide.

The CCP even built brand new homes for Uyghur farmers who previously lived in dilapidated mud houses, completely free of charge. All the costs were covered by the wealthy eastern provinces.

And yet this is called "genocide."
 
Jack Grealish said:
What I mean is that your country has spent 20 years in the Middle East fighting terrorism, dropping countless bombs. China's counter-terrorism measures, on the other hand, are merely mild methods, negligible compared to parts of the Middle East, yet you describe them as genocide.
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China hasn't had the problem of external terrorists attacking their nation and national interests. Even in the Middle East, the US didn't just indiscriminately bomb everything in sight.
Jack Grealish said:
The CCP even built brand new homes for Uyghur farmers who previously lived in dilapidated mud houses, completely free of charge. All the costs were covered by the wealthy eastern provinces.

And yet this is called "genocide."
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Now, that there is some first rate, top notch, propaganda you got there!
 
T. A. Gardner said:
China hasn't had the problem of external terrorists attacking their nation and national interests. Even in the Middle East, the US didn't just indiscriminately bomb everything in sight.

Now, that there is some first rate, top notch, propaganda you got there!
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which terrorist attacked the U.S.?

see man?

bullshit makes our regime look illegitimate, brother.
 
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