Was Robert E Lee Irish or Scottish?

Concart said:
I still haven’t been able to determine his ethnic background based on his famous admonition to the troops at Gettysburg:

“Never fight uphill me boys!!”

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The English considered both Scots and Irish to be subhuman which is a major reason why so many immigrated to the US.

I looked and couldn't find an answer to the question although I did see where General Lee was the son of Henry "Light-Horse Harry" Lee, hero of the American Revolution, Congressional delegate and governor of VA.
 
Walt said:
trump came up with a fake Lee quote that makes Lee sound like he had either Irish or Scottish accent. There was a time Irish and Scottish would have been considered "races", but not recently. And accents are not "race" based.
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I'm sure that happened.

if you don't know the American black accent you're dumb and in denial.

it's called ebonics.

why do you hate?
 
Blackwater Lunchbreak said:
if you don't know the American black accent you're dumb and in denial. it's called ebonics.
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That is one name for the American black accent. While it is related to race, it is not caused by race. If a white kid grows up in a Black American family, he will have a Black American accent. If a Black kid grows up in Oxford, England, he will have an Oxford English accent.

See how that works?
 
Walt said:
That is one name for the American black accent. While it is related to race, it is not caused by race. If a white kid grows up in a Black American family, he will have a Black American accent. If a Black kid grows up in Oxford, England, he will have an Oxford English accent.

See how that works?
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so it's like Christianity moreso than judaism?
 
Walt said:
trump came up with a fake Lee quote that makes Lee sound like he had either Irish or Scottish accent. There was a time Irish and Scottish would have been considered "races", but not recently. And accents are not "race" based.
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I have a T-shirt. Green, and Robert E. Lee is dressed like a leprechaun with a civil war uniform on.

NEVER FIGHT UPHILL, ME BOYS!!! It's awesome.
 
Commander Dutch said:
The English considered both Scots and Irish to be subhuman which is a major reason why so many immigrated to the US.

I looked and couldn't find an answer to the question although I did see where General Lee was the son of Henry "Light-Horse Harry" Lee, hero of the American Revolution, Congressional delegate and governor of VA.
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Indeed. Remember the quote from Blazing Saddles when the townspeople needed help:

"We'll take the n****ers and the chinks, but we don't want the Irish"
 
Concart said:
I still haven’t been able to determine his ethnic background based on his famous admonition to the troops at Gettysburg:

“Never fight uphill me boys!!”

Discuss.
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Robert E Lee was descended from Richard Lee, who immigrated to Virginia in 1639. Richard was born in Worcester, England.
 
Concart said:
I still haven’t been able to determine his ethnic background based on his famous admonition to the troops at Gettysburg:

“Never fight uphill me boys!!”

Discuss.
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How do we know that isn't just a 19th century American idiom? American English evolves and changes over the decades.
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
Seven prime ministers of the UK were born in Scotland.

But as Samuel Johnson said, “The noblest prospect which a Scotchman ever sees is the high road to England!”
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Always or back when Scots were heading for America?

Perhaps those that immigrated to America were Scotland's poor or robbed of their land by Scotland's rich and powerful? Do you know why so many Scots and Irish immigrated to America, TE?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Perhaps those that immigrated to America were Scotland's poor or robbed of their land by Scotland's rich and powerful? Do you know why so many Scots and Irish immigrated to America, TE?
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The main reason for Irish emigration was the Potato Famine of the 1840s, which was nobody's fault, although more could have been done to alleviate it.

As for Scottish emigration, afaik most of them went to Canada. You're right, many had been dispossessed by Scottish landowners.
 
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Walt said:
That is one name for the American black accent. While it is related to race, it is not caused by race. If a white kid grows up in a Black American family, he will have a Black American accent. If a Black kid grows up in Oxford, England, he will have an Oxford English accent.

See how that works?
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Fredo is used to watching old movies with his daddy which had white actors in blackface with a "black accent" singing "Mammy" or telling jokes at the expense of "po' black folk".
 
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