Wall Street is predicting a 2023 recession. Here are the red flags you should know ab

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Wall Street is predicting a 2023 recession. Here are the red flags you should know about

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The U.S. economy added nearly half a million jobs in March. The Dow Jones industrial average is within 6% of its record high. And U.S. households accumulated roughly $2.5 trillion in excess savings throughout the pandemic.

Still, despite all the good news, predictions of an impending recession are widespread on Wall Street.

Billionaire investors, former Federal Reserve officials, and now even investment banks have repeatedly warned that the economy may hit a wall in 2023.

What’s driving the recent string of downtrodden economic forecasts?
Will history repeat itself?

For some, it’s a matter of historical comparison. Former Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers emphasized in a recent Washington Post op-ed that current economic conditions are undeniably reminiscent of previous per-recession periods in U.S. history.

“Over the past 75 years, every time inflation has exceeded 4% and unemployment has gone below 5%, the U.S. economy has gone into a recession within two years,” Summers wrote.

Today, the U.S. inflation rate is nearing 8%, and the unemployment rate fell to just 3.6% in March. As a result, Summers now sees an 80% chance of a U.S. recession by next year.
The yield curve inversion

Gary Pzegeo, the head of fixed income at CIBC’s U.S. Private Wealth division, told Fortune that he believes the majority of current recession predictions come from “market signals” like the recent, albeit brief, inversion of the yield curve.

A boom in commodity prices, the Federal Reserve’s decision to raise interest rates, and the war in Ukraine’s effects on global economic growth have acted to flatten the yield curve recently, Pzegeo argued. And when it inverted, it ignited fears of a recession.

After all, a 2s/10s yield curve inversion—where yields on short-term two-year government bonds outpace those on long-term 10-year government bonds—has predicted every recession since 1955, with only one false signal during that time. The average time frame for a recession after the yield curve inverts: between 6 and 24 months—hence, all the predictions of a recession by 2023.
https://www.yahoo.com/now/wall-street-predicting-2023-recession-080000694.html
 
The Biden economic team should be in a Loony Tunes cartoon.


Inflation eroded pay by 1.7% over the past year - CNBC
https://www.cnbc.com › 2022/02/10 › inflation-eroded-...
Feb 10, 2022 — “Real” hourly earnings (wage growth minus inflation) fell by 1.7% from January 2021 to January 2022, the U.S. Department of Labor said Thursday.
 
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Wall Street is going to cry wolf like little snot-nosed Chihuahuas knapping at everyone's heels and retaliate by predicting a recession every time the FED raises or forecasts an interest rate!

Meanwhile American Financial and Savings Institutions use the hardest working Americans Bank Savings accounts money that they offer 0.01% interest rates on, and invest them in the stock market and laugh all the way down to Wall Street with their "Money For Nothing" schemes!

Saving money becomes a joke- and the joke is on the Hardest Working Americans! Many hard working Americans look at the Stock Market as a Gambling Casino- and the 9/11 attacks on Wall Street- proved that they are right! Many Americans save money through Bank Savings accounts for college funds for their children as they grow up- Many use Bank Savings accounts as retirement funds! Many struggle to save money for expensive down payments on homes etc.

And every dime riding on the Stock Market or WALL STREET is actually money that is not being invested into the Economy- or MAIN STREET- WHEN WE SHOULD ALL BE INVESTING IN THE ECONOMY IN A CAPITALIST SYSTEM- YOU KNOW- WHERE PRICE IS SUPPOSED TO MEET THE DEMAND AND ALL?

And not only that, in a time where Treasury Bonds are financing the United States debt- WE HAVE TO MAKE TREASURY BONDS MORE ATTRACTIVE TO BUYERS AROUND THE WORLD- OR OFF GOES THE LIGHTS!

The Federal Reserve Bank makes no commitments to Wall Street! They do have commitments to the Treasury Department AND MAIN STREET in trying to Keep money flowing into our economy!

SO all you people bitching about the Fed raising interest rates- And, at the same time bitching about inflation and the economy- IS LIKE A CONFLICT OF YOUR OWN BEST INTERESTS!

Basically trying to have things both ways which is impossible- and basically is just another way to blame the president or the FED- DAMN THEM IF THEY DO- AND DAMN THEM IF THEY DON'T!
 
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Wall Street is going to cry wolf and retaliate by predicting a recession every time the FED raises the interest rate!

Meanwhile Banks use the hardest working Americans Bank Savings accounts money that they offer 0.01% interest rates on, and invest them in the stock market and laugh all the way down to Wall Street with their "Money For Nothing" schemes!

Saving money becomes a joke- and the joke is on the Hardest Working Americans!

Good to see that you admit that the out of control inflation is harming Americans and that a recession is near.

Can you say BIDEN?
 
Wall Street is going to cry wolf and retaliate by predicting a recession every time the FED raises the interest rate!

Meanwhile Banks use the hardest working Americans Bank Savings accounts money that they offer 0.01% interest rates on, and invest them in the stock market and laugh all the way down to Wall Street with their "Money For Nothing" schemes!

Saving money becomes a joke- and the joke is on the Hardest Working Americans!

We can largely thank the Fed keeping rates at/near zero to punish savers and push investors into riskier assets.
 
We can largely thank the Fed keeping rates at/near zero to punish savers and push investors into riskier assets.

I know that is the way it appears sometimes.

But, there is another caviot- and that is the Fed is trying to make sure that their member banks have plenty of money for Business Investments and Venture capitol and etc.

The only way you are going to prevent Stock Market Investors from borrowing money to invest in the Stock Market is through Bank regulations that the Republicans always kill on the Legislature Floor!
 
Good to see that you admit that the out of control inflation is harming Americans and that a recession is near.

Can you say BIDEN?

Yes, I can also say Trump- Obama- Bush- and Clinton- and all of the presidents names all the way back to George Washington!

What is your point?

I don't blame presidents for everything- just because I didn't vote for them!

No SIR- I'm not a Whiny WART like you!
 
I know that is the way it appears sometimes.

But, there is another caviot- and that is the Fed is trying to make sure that their member banks have plenty of money for Business Investments and Venture capitol and etc.

The only way you are going to prevent Stock Market Investors from borrowing money to invest in the Stock Market is through Bank regulations that the Republicans always kill on the Legislature Floor!

The way it appears? They openly state it. It’s all about the wealth effect (increase asset values and people will feel richer and spend more to stimulate the economy.)

It’s not about borrowing money to invest in the market (or bank regulations). When they drop rates to zero you have no incentive to save in traditional/less risky type saving accounts. They essentially force you to put it in riskier assets to get better returns. It’s not about borrowing money nor can congress pass bank legislation to force the Fed not to pursue the low interest policies it has.
 
The way it appears? They openly state it. It’s all about the wealth effect (increase asset values and people will feel richer and spend more to stimulate the economy.)

It’s not about borrowing money to invest in the market (or bank regulations). When they drop rates to zero you have no incentive to save in traditional/less risky type saving accounts. They essentially force you to put it in riskier assets to get better returns. It’s not about borrowing money nor can congress pass bank legislation to force the Fed not to pursue the low interest policies it has.

OK, let's just go with all of your obvious politically motivated Half/Truths then!

You are the expert!

Fuck! I only worked at the Federal Reserve Bank Loan Department for 10 years- WTF DO I KNOW?
 
OK, let's just go with all of your obvious politically motivated Half/Truths then!

You are the expert!

Fuck! I only worked at the Federal Reserve Bank Loan Department for 10 years- WTF DO I KNOW?

1) I am far from an expert

2) I’m just having a discussion - not everything has to be a fight

3) I’m not sure what is politically motivated or half truth about what I said; I’m open to hearing if you think I’m wrong but what I stated is repeating the Fed’s words for their goals of their policies
 
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1) I am far from an expert

2) I’m just having a discussion - not everything has to be a fight

3) I’m not sure what is politically motivated or half truth about what I said; I’m open to hearing if you think I’m wrong but what I stated is repeating the Fed’s words for their goals of their policies

I am not saying you are exactly wrong about anything, I am just saying that there is more to the FRB than just the things you mentioned.

In fact, only just over 1/3 of the Banks in America are even Members of the Federal Reserve Bank that even qualify for FRB loans to begin with.

If you are not a member bank- You can charge or pay what-ever interest rate you want short of USERY!

I would like to see the source and the actual verbatim quote, in it's full context, you are referring to- when you say it is in their own words!

The FRB gets a lot of flack from Wall Street and their investors when they raise interest rates. It is an anomaly that they have to fuck up the economy a bit sometimes temporarily- to get it back on a progressive track and for the better good of our economy long term.
 
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I am not saying you are exactly wrong about anything, I am just saying that there is more to the FRB than just the things you mentioned.

In fact, only just over 1/3 of the Banks in America are even Members of the Federal Reserve Bank that even qualify for FRB loans to begin with.

If you are not a member bank- You can charge or pay what-ever interest rate you want short of USERY!

I would like to see the source and the actual verbatim quote, in it's full context, you are referring to- when you say it is in their own words!

The FRB gets a lot of flack from Wall Street and their investors when they raise interest rates. It is an anomaly that they have to fuck up the economy a bit sometimes temporarily- to get it back on a progressive track and for the better good of our economy long term.

I responded to your post stating saving money is a joke (based on the return offered). That's largely driven by the Fed.

Regarding the Fed and the wealth effect it was something I became more familiar with post Great Recession and Bernanke discussing why they were using QE (and continued to keep using it).
 
I responded to your post stating saving money is a joke (based on the return offered). That's largely driven by the Fed.

Regarding the Fed and the wealth effect it was something I became more familiar with post Great Recession and Bernanke discussing why they were using QE (and continued to keep using it).

The Fed offers loans to their members at a good rate- Their members set the rates they pay on interest for their savings accounts.

It is not the FED that is the greedy one- IT IS THEIR MEMBER BANKS!

Regulations would probably fix that!

But then they would get into the Free Enterprise argument about regulations.

But so far the Republicans care more about well regulated militias that we don't need, than they care about well regulated Banks that we do need!!
 
The Fed offers loans to their members at a good rate- Their members set the rates they pay on interest for their savings accounts.

It is not the FED that is the greedy one- IT IS THEIR MEMBER BANKS!

Regulations would probably fix that!

But then they would get into the Free Enterprise argument about regulations.

But so far the Republicans care more about well regulated militias that we don't need, than they care about well regulated Banks that we do need!!

I guess I've never heard the argument that Congress should set regulations determining what interest rate banks can offer on savings, money market accounts or CD's let alone the implication that you're making that Democrats want to do this but Republicans are blocking them.

I can't even begin to fathom how that would work.
 
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