Voters blame Republicans!!!

Mott the Hoople said:
Give me a break. What Ken posted was common sense. It was Republican policy that got us into the hole were in. Dems are taking the hit for not getting us out of the hole fast enough and I have no problem with the public giving them a shot across the bow, so to speak, as a wake up call.

The problem is, Republicans have not reformed but have in fact gone even further to the right and are offering the same old failed policies that got us into this mess in the first place. So what is the public going to do? Vote for the party that is struggling to get us out of this problem or vote for the party that created the problem in the first place?
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LMAO.... no, it was not... that is simply what the idiots on the left believe. The idiots on the right believe it was Dem policies.

The telling number is the 16%.... they are the ones that understand it is the policies of BOTH parties that have fucked up this country.
 
zoombwaz said:
If it didn't, the GOP wouldn't even exist. They have mastered "The Big Lie," where utter horseshit is repeated ad nauseum, most often with a catchy talking point phrase, and eventually the morons in the electorate, defined as anybody who isn't rich, yet votes for the GOP (sorry, but GOP voters are either rich, idiots, or both), accept the nonsense as truth, aided and abetted by a corporately owned media, which has been the subject of Big Lie #1: that they are somehow liberally biased. Anyone with a functioning cerebrum knows what happy horseshit that is, given that the methodology of the study most often quoted to support this position has been thoroughly discredited. And yet simpletons continue to bleat about the "liberal media" when no such bias exists, and refer to the Democratic Party as "leftists," when they are nearly as co-opted by big money as are the GOP, and to Obama as a "socialist," when in fact his economic team is made up disproportionally of Goldman Sachs alumni. Socialists? Buy a dictionary, and then buy a fucking clue.
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You mean a catchy phrase/big lie like 'they want to steal old people's social security checks' or 'we must tax carbon and raise everyones energy bills because the earth is warming to unprecedented levels (provided of course we only look back 120 years in earths history)' or 'we are from the government and we are here to help you'
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Yes and Santa will bring you shiny birght new red rider wagon for Christmas too! :ILUM:
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I remember being excoriated on the WOT board for daring to suggest that not only was the GOP NOT going to cement a permanent majority in both houses in 2006, as Tom Delay claimed they would, or in 2008, as the media narrative claimed, but also for having the unmitigated temerity to suggest that they were in fact going to get their asses handed to them by the allegedly much-despised Democratic Party. Guess who was right.

My prediction for 2010 is predicated on the Dems making use of Obama's experience in full-contact Chicago politics, and using one of the GOP's favorite tricks against them. They are being portrayed in the media as being hapless and helpless to defuse the GOP's message (read "lie") that they and not the GOP are responsible for the deficit, debt, and the economic near-meltdown. The reality is that all three were caused first by the tax cuts for the wealthy bestowed upon the undeserving rich by Ronnie Ray Gun and the Shrub, which handed the rich more money than they could reasonably be able to spend on concrete goods or services, and then by the repeal of Glass-Steagall, which gave them something to do with all that tax loot burning a hole in their collective pocket: speculate, just like they did in 1928. And the result? The Great Depression. The idle rich have a learning curve like Bush's EEG; a flat line.

But I digress. Anybody ever hear of a September Surprise? No? Well, there's a reason for that: it's bad strategy, as it gives the opposition too much time to counter and the voters' ADHD makes it unlikely they will remember it by the time the first Tuesday in November rolls around. Now let's talk about the October Surprise. Heard of that? You betcha. 10 days to 2 weeks before the election, the GOP has been known to drop a steaming load of bullshit on one or more of their opponents, too late for their adversaries to answer, and too soon before the election for the electorate to forget. Well, the Dems have an opportunity this year to shove the GOP's faces into their own steaming pile, which is the Tea-baggers, and unlike the GOP's reliance on lies for their own October Surprises, the Dems can do it with 100% veracity: expose the right-wing-whack-job extremism of the Tee shirt party, which is currently the GOP's worst nightmare, since they are now and have been frantically pulling down the teaspoons' web sites, where their idiocy and insanity is there for all to see, and replacing them with generic GOP issue-free and solution-free crapola, and trying to pull the Tea Coziers' feet out of their mouths and their heads out of their asses, and at least sound like a reasonable facsimile of a normal, thinking human being instead of a flaming cosmic asshole. Look for the Dems to shout from the rooftops about the tea party's whack-jobs around the third week of October. Aalso look for them to allow the GOP to block reauthorization of the Bush tax cuts if the cuts for the richest 1% are left out, which they will be, so the GOP will be stuck having to explain to their middle and working class constituents why they blocked the tax cuts for the 99% because of the 1%.

The truth is going to eventually do the GOP in for good. They have no ideas, and the voters are going to finally realize that electing people to government who do not believe in government is a really dumb idea. If the Dems do not hoist the GOP by its own petard, it's their own damn fault, and if the voters return them to control, and they lower taxes again and wreck th economy or Social Security, they will be history in 2012.

If the Dems do pull off their own October Surprise, as I think they will break even in both houses, or at worst lose a handful of seats (fewer than 6). In any case, Boehner can stop measuring the speaker's office for new drapes. That scenario will remain no more than a masturbatory fantasy as far as that dipshit is concerned.

Those who want to wait until the election is over to tell me I'm full of shit, because my predictions do]id not pan out are welcome to do so. anx if i am proved wrong, I will admit it. But those of you who are already writing that I have no clue need to keep in mind that you do so at your own risk. It isn't just that i will say "I told you so", it's the way I say it.

No quarter asked and none given
 
zoombwaz said:
I remember being excoriated on the WOT board for daring to suggest that not only was the GOP NOT going to cement a permanent majority in both houses in 2006, as Tom Delay claimed they would, or in 2008, as the media narrative claimed, but also for having the unmitigated temerity to suggest that they were in fact going to get their asses handed to them by the allegedly much-despised Democratic Party. Guess who was right.

My prediction for 2010 is predicated on the Dems making use of Obama's experience in full-contact Chicago politics, and using one of the GOP's favorite tricks against them. They are being portrayed in the media as being hapless and helpless to defuse the GOP's message (read "lie") that they and not the GOP are responsible for the deficit, debt, and the economic near-meltdown. The reality is that all three were caused first by the tax cuts for the wealthy bestowed upon the undeserving rich by Ronnie Ray Gun and the Shrub, which handed the rich more money than they could reasonably be able to spend on concrete goods or services, and then by the repeal of Glass-Steagall, which gave them something to do with all that tax loot burning a hole in their collective pocket: speculate, just like they did in 1928. And the result? The Great Depression. The idle rich have a learning curve like Bush's EEG; a flat line.

But I digress. Anybody ever hear of a September Surprise? No? Well, there's a reason for that: it's bad strategy, as it gives the opposition too much time to counter and the voters' ADHD makes it unlikely they will remember it by the time the first Tuesday in November rolls around. Now let's talk about the October Surprise. Heard of that? You betcha. 10 days to 2 weeks before the election, the GOP has been known to drop a steaming load of bullshit on one or more of their opponents, too late for their adversaries to answer, and too soon before the election for the electorate to forget. Well, the Dems have an opportunity this year to shove the GOP's faces into their own steaming pile, which is the Tea-baggers, and unlike the GOP's reliance on lies for their own October Surprises, the Dems can do it with 100% veracity: expose the right-wing-whack-job extremism of the Tee shirt party, which is currently the GOP's worst nightmare, since they are now and have been frantically pulling down the teaspoons' web sites, where their idiocy and insanity is there for all to see, and replacing them with generic GOP issue-free and solution-free crapola, and trying to pull the Tea Coziers' feet out of their mouths and their heads out of their asses, and at least sound like a reasonable facsimile of a normal, thinking human being instead of a flaming cosmic asshole. Look for the Dems to shout from the rooftops about the tea party's whack-jobs around the third week of October. Aalso look for them to allow the GOP to block reauthorization of the Bush tax cuts if the cuts for the richest 1% are left out, which they will be, so the GOP will be stuck having to explain to their middle and working class constituents why they blocked the tax cuts for the 99% because of the 1%.

The truth is going to eventually do the GOP in for good. They have no ideas, and the voters are going to finally realize that electing people to government who do not believe in government is a really dumb idea. If the Dems do not hoist the GOP by its own petard, it's their own damn fault, and if the voters return them to control, and they lower taxes again and wreck th economy or Social Security, they will be history in 2012.

If the Dems do pull off their own October Surprise, as I think they will break even in both houses, or at worst lose a handful of seats (fewer than 6). In any case, Boehner can stop measuring the speaker's office for new drapes. That scenario will remain no more than a masturbatory fantasy as far as that dipshit is concerned.

Those who want to wait until the election is over to tell me I'm full of shit, because my predictions do]id not pan out are welcome to do so. anx if i am proved wrong, I will admit it. But those of you who are already writing that I have no clue need to keep in mind that you do so at your own risk. It isn't just that i will say "I told you so", it's the way I say it.

No quarter asked and none given
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Glass Steagall was repealed by a party line vote in the Senate 54-44. It was bi-partisan in the House 343-86 and then signed by Bill Clinton. SOOOO, repealing Glass Steagall was not all the Republican's fault. Mid-terms always cost the party in power and this will be no exception. Health Care reform is going to do to the dems in 10 what it did to the dems in 94. Big, divisive issues in your first term are never a good idea. Should have worked on dropping borders on insurance, some form of med-mal reform and some common sense immigration reform. Then destroy the party in his second term with health care reform.
 
Socrtease said:
Glass Steagall was repealed by a party line vote in the Senate 54-44. It was bi-partisan in the House 343-86 and then signed by Bill Clinton. SOOOO, repealing Glass Steagall was not all the Republican's fault. Mid-terms always cost the party in power and this will be no exception. Health Care reform is going to do to the dems in 10 what it did to the dems in 94. Big, divisive issues in your first term are never a good idea. Should have worked on dropping borders on insurance, some form of med-mal reform and some common sense immigration reform. Then destroy the party in his second term with health care reform.
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Incorrect.... Glass Steagall's repeal (the FINAL version) was repealed by a bipartisan 90-8 vote. The 8 were all Dems (well Shelby was a former Dem anyway)... two Reps did not vote/voted present. The 8 Dems should be applauded for the correct decision.

Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama (Republican, formerly a Democrat) voted against it, as did 7 Democratic Senators: Barbara Boxer (Calif.), Richard Bryan (Nevada), Byron Dorgan (N. Dakota), Russell Feingold (Wisc.), Tom Harkin (Iowa), Barbara Mikulski (Maryland) and Paul Wellstone (Minn.) Sen. Peter Fitzgerald (R-Illinois) again voted "present", while Sen. John McCain (R-Arizona) did not vote

Democrats in the Senate jumped on board after modifications were made in the reconciliation process with the House version of the bill.
 
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