http://www.desmoinesregister.com/ar...sion-results-in-death-threat-for-Iowa-company
Bwahahahaha
what a bunch of stupid union thugs
Bwahahahaha
what a bunch of stupid union thugs
Union slugs protest the wrong Koch Brothers
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Minister of Truth
Practically Perfect
How fucking retarded do these people get?!!? 
Minister of Truth
Practically Perfect
Union members.
Rationalist
Hail Voltaire
Well, let's be honest here. These people are union for a reason: they're too lazy and stupid to survive in the free economy.
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The Almighty
Well, that would be the always peaceful left wingnuts. You know, the ones that want more civility and less vitriolic crap.
You mean the union iron workers that assemble skyscrapers, bridges and nuclear power plants?
I'm sure we can find a way to blame this on Sarah Palin.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Silly.... they don't have unions in Dubai and Japan!
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The Almighty
nonsense... this is clearly the fault of GW Bush.
I came across this article which shows how stupid these protesters are, they are only hurting other union members.
A Well-Intentioned Bad Idea
By Jon Geenen
International Vice President, United Steelworkers
A number of organizations are advocating a boycott of the products that come from companies owned by the Koch family. This is problematic for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that it could potentially hurt the wrong people.
The Koch brothers own Georgia Pacific. It is an American consumer goods company that makes everyday products like facial tissue, napkins, paper towels, paper cups and the like. Their plants are great examples of American advanced manufacturing. Incidentally,
GP makes most of its products here in America. The company’s workforce is highly unionized. In fact, 80 percent of its mills are under contract with one or more labor union. It is not inaccurate to say that these are among the best-paid manufacturing jobs in America.
This presents a dilemma and a paradox. While the Koch brothers are credited with advocating an agenda and groups that are clearly hostile to labor and labor’s agenda, the brothers’ company in practice and in general has positive and productive collective bargaining relationships with its unions.
While some companies are running from investment in American jobs, The Koch brothers’ Georgia Pacific just reached agreements with its primary union in the paper industry to invest more than a half a billion dollars in capital to essentially create two state-of-the-art machines that conserve fiber and energy at two separate union mills.
While certainly there are disagreements from time to time on what the right pension program is, or right wage increases and incentives, or the right formula for health care cost sharing, ultimately we end up with negotiated solutions.
So the problem for the advocates of a boycott against Koch is that it can only marginally hurt Koch, and the workers who are the epitome of what advanced manufacturing jobs in the United States ought to look like, would be the first casualties of a boycott. Of course, this will eventually drive a wedge between groups that are otherwise in political alignment.
If consumers pick alternate products (because people will still use toilet paper), in many cases, the substitute will be from a company with a track record that is much less friendly to the values of the workers who would, as a result of the boycott, become the collateral damage. The Koch brothers’ lifestyle will not dramatically change; there are no shareholders that will become concerned; the company is privately owned. The stock won’t plummet either — there is none.
http://blog.usw.org/2011/03/30/a-well-intentioned-bad-idea/
A Well-Intentioned Bad Idea
By Jon Geenen
International Vice President, United Steelworkers
A number of organizations are advocating a boycott of the products that come from companies owned by the Koch family. This is problematic for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that it could potentially hurt the wrong people.
The Koch brothers own Georgia Pacific. It is an American consumer goods company that makes everyday products like facial tissue, napkins, paper towels, paper cups and the like. Their plants are great examples of American advanced manufacturing. Incidentally,
GP makes most of its products here in America. The company’s workforce is highly unionized. In fact, 80 percent of its mills are under contract with one or more labor union. It is not inaccurate to say that these are among the best-paid manufacturing jobs in America.
This presents a dilemma and a paradox. While the Koch brothers are credited with advocating an agenda and groups that are clearly hostile to labor and labor’s agenda, the brothers’ company in practice and in general has positive and productive collective bargaining relationships with its unions.
While some companies are running from investment in American jobs, The Koch brothers’ Georgia Pacific just reached agreements with its primary union in the paper industry to invest more than a half a billion dollars in capital to essentially create two state-of-the-art machines that conserve fiber and energy at two separate union mills.
While certainly there are disagreements from time to time on what the right pension program is, or right wage increases and incentives, or the right formula for health care cost sharing, ultimately we end up with negotiated solutions.
So the problem for the advocates of a boycott against Koch is that it can only marginally hurt Koch, and the workers who are the epitome of what advanced manufacturing jobs in the United States ought to look like, would be the first casualties of a boycott. Of course, this will eventually drive a wedge between groups that are otherwise in political alignment.
If consumers pick alternate products (because people will still use toilet paper), in many cases, the substitute will be from a company with a track record that is much less friendly to the values of the workers who would, as a result of the boycott, become the collateral damage. The Koch brothers’ lifestyle will not dramatically change; there are no shareholders that will become concerned; the company is privately owned. The stock won’t plummet either — there is none.
http://blog.usw.org/2011/03/30/a-well-intentioned-bad-idea/
Rationalist
Hail Voltaire
I was referring to the individuals who threatened the wrong people. I don't have a problem with unions, per se. When I did electrical work, I was a member of the IBEW and it was okay. My dad is a member of Teamsters.
Unions jobs are certainly able to attract the brightest, but also the dumbest, because it provides a safe haven for those who are incompetent. Like everything, unions have their pros and cons.
Rationalist
Hail Voltaire
No, what's showing is my personal experience. I've observed cases in which unions protected people who endangered their coworkers with their incompetency. Furthermore, some of the laziest people I've ever met have union jobs. It is much more difficult to fire them when the union has a financial interest in keeping them employed.
Crashk
Unite or Die
Quit lying. As a union member you know the union will only protect your right to work and wages as long as you produce and are a decent worker. I've seen the union cut loose many workers who didn't show up, were drunk, or abused the rules. Write your hatred for unions on the back window of your car and see how the police in your town like it.
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The Almighty
actually, it is your brainwashing that is showing. While the companies certainly do the hiring, just how do you suppose they are to know in advance which employees will be lazy? They can weed some out based on past job references, but many times that cannot be determined ahead of time.
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The Almighty
The above is truly laughable.