Undercurrent of the upcoming Republican campaign...

Jarod

Jarod

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I really hope I am wrong, and I am sure it depends on who the eventual nominee is, and that person's morals, but I am afraid that one of the theems the Republicans will attempt to push against the President is that he is NOT LIKE US, or that he is NOT ONE OF US, not really an American.....

I get this from Huckaberry's claims about the Mau Mau Revolution and the President growing up in Africa, from the allegations that he was not born in the United States, from the veiled suggestions that he is a Muslam, and from the continued attempts to associate him with Rodger Ailes and his former minister. And the now abandoned attempt to label him as a Socialist.

Is this racist? I am sure for some people it is. I dont pretend to know how large of a group are doing this or are attracted to this based on a dislike of his race. What I know it is however is an attempt to drive people based on fear of people who are different and an attempt to say that he is out to get us because he is not one of us. That fear is not only the basis of much of racism, its the bases of something even more broad based.

Its one thing to say you dont agree with his policy on this or that, you dont agree with his leadership ability, or the way he has handled forign affiars, but to try to excite your base to vote because he is NOT ONE OF US, is particularly cynical. I hope that the Republican canidates will stand up and say, I disagree with the President on A, B, and C, but he is an honorable American who is simply wrong on policy.

So, I ask the more conservative members of this board to join me in a call for the Republican nominees to abandon this devisive and harmfull undercurrent and have an election that is about the issues, the ideas and the plans for the future. Lets have an election that is about the Presidents policies versuses the opposing canidates policies.

Who is with me?
 
Forget it. Never gonna happen. The radical right has nothing to run on, they can't run on what they believe, they can't say we want to do away with health programs for the old and cut education for everyone but the rich. They can't say we want to tax the middle class and poor more so Bush's Base can continue to get tax cuts. They can't say...see, trickle down works! People are realizing that Bush's Base invests in 'emerging markets' which is code for building industry in china instead of America. The conservative free market god has failed and this country is now paying the price. The only thing they have is race bating, fear and anger.

I predict they come up with splinter issues like gun control, abortion, gays, the war on Christmas and ignore the real problems facing this country that they created.
 
The election is 18 months away. I don't know if anyone has even officially declared yet (on the Republican side). It is WAY too early to try and break down what is going on in the campaign. How about instead of worrying about something so far away we worry about what the people running the country today are doing?
 
Crashk said:
Forget it. Never gonna happen. The radical right has nothing to run on, they can't run on what they believe, they can't say we want to do away with health programs for the old and cut education for everyone but the rich. They can't say we want to tax the middle class and poor more so Bush's Base can continue to get tax cuts. They can't say...see, trickle down works! People are realizing that Bush's Base invests in 'emerging markets' which is code for building industry in china instead of America. The conservative free market god has failed and this country is now paying the price. The only thing they have is race bating, fear and anger.

I predict they come up with splinter issues like gun control, abortion, gays, the war on Christmas and ignore the real problems facing this country that they created.
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Crash, who is Bush's base? I live in the Bay Area which is one of the wealthiest areas of the country and it is heavily Democratic/Liberal. Other places with wealth such as NY, Chicago, (parts of) New Jersey and Connecticut are that way also. Obviously there are rich Republicans too but this idea that the top 1% are heavily Republicans doesn't hold weight.

The Silicon Valley, part of the Bay Area, with its immense wealth is very Democratic leaning as well. Some of Clinton and Obama's biggest financial backers are from the Silicon Valley. You look at the real and projected growth of many of these tech companies and it is not in the U.S. It is overseas. In 1950 the U.S. produced 50% of the world's GDP. Today it is around 23%. We are in a global economy. We cannot go back to the '50's where America was isolated/protected from international competition.

From strictly a political perspective Bill Clinton signed China's most favored nations status in 2000. He saw the big picture and where growth for US companies was going to occur. When you get into a corporate board room ideology goes out the window and making money is bi-partisan.
 
So noone wants to go on record condeming the use of such an undercurrent?
 
Crashk said:

Why do you continue to be a lapdog for the multinational communist industrialists?
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Crash, that quote was at a comedic gathering or whatever that event is called.

How does one qualify as not being a lapdog? Just voting Democrat doesn't cut it because Democrats help support US companies to go overseas as well. Are you calling for the Azzhat solution of basically total protectionism?
 
Will anyone decry the dirty campaign tactics currently being employed by the fringe right?
 
Yurt said:
will you decry dirty campaign tactics by the left?

and what dirty tactics are you talking about?
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I certantly will, if you have any to mention. Please read the first post in this thread and you will know what I am talking about... the undercurrent.
 
Jarod said:
I certantly will, if you have any to mention. Please read the first post in this thread and you will know what I am talking about... the undercurrent.
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some of what you talk about hasn't even happened...you're only worried it "will" happen

do you have a link to the rest? and btw...i don't care for huckleberry
 
Yurt said:
some of what you talk about hasn't even happened...you're only worried it "will" happen

do you have a link to the rest? and btw...i don't care for huckleberry
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Okay, for your sake Yurt... Would you decry it IF it were happening?
 
Jarod, you're so full of shit your eyes are brown. The serious contenders for the GOP nomination have already stated their intent to stick to important issues, such as the deficit and unemployment. As it stands, Obama is the one ignoring these issues. His "plan" to reduce the deficit by $250 billion in 10 years is a fucking joke. Americans don't want a lost decade; that is why on November 6, 2012, we are voting this motherfucker out of office.
 
You want us to condemn what might happen in a campaign?

I condemn the dirty tactics by BOTH sides. Does that help?
 
Jarod said:
Okay, for your sake Yurt... Would you decry it IF it were happening?
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this thread is hilarious...you want to those on the right to condemn something that hasn't happened yet...

okay...it is interesting how i am a hack for asking if you would condemn those on the left....but you're not a hack for asking me if i would condemn the right. what do you make of that jarod? is that right to call me a hack and not you for asking the same question?

i condemn both sides jarod...

will you?
 
Yurt said:
this thread is hilarious...you want to those on the right to condemn something that hasn't happened yet...

okay...it is interesting how i am a hack for asking if you would condemn those on the left....but you're not a hack for asking me if i would condemn the right. what do you make of that jarod? is that right to call me a hack and not you for asking the same question?

i condemn both sides jarod...

will you?
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No, I personally belive it is happening, anyone can see it is. I gave you several examples in my origional post. To get you to respond however, for your sake, I said IF!
 
WinterBorn said:
You want us to condemn what might happen in a campaign?

I condemn the dirty tactics by BOTH sides. Does that help?
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Illistrate some dirty tactics the Democrats are preparing and I just might condem them. I already illistrated such and you are trying your best not to respond.
 
Funny, has so-called "Obamacare" happened yet?​
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If not, how come the people who don't want health care reform spend so much time posting things like this to condemn it?​
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Of course, I'm sure this image isn't intended to be racist, or anything.​
 
He is different from us, he was not a boyscout and his mother did not join the rotary club.
 
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