Ukrainians aren't sweating; should we?

Surely you do not think all the neocons in America vote Democrat?

I agree Biden is almost certainly pushing this for a distraction. And it is nonsense.

But the neocons and the Military Industrial Complex - most of whom are almost certainly on the right - are salivating at the possibility as well.

Led by the Neo-con poster boy - John Bolton.

Oh, I agree here. The insanity is they might just start WW 3.
 
Only an insipidly stubborn fool would try and deny the chronology of the posts. Seems you fit the bill, as no information provided can waver your willful ignorance.
Now run-a-long and parrot your little attempts at insult and slander to your hearts content. You'll be all tuckered out soon and sleep well tonight.

Dealing with TCL is like playing cliche bingo, 'the chronology of the posts' is one of his all time favourites.
 
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Note, dear reader, how this corporate wonk just ignores discussing in detail any item in the content of my posts and then LIES about it. Worse, the clown states I'm uninformed....after reading his links and seeing it's all still theory and drawing board proto-types. Sad. He keeps posting "theory" brought to us by the very same jokers who are telling us that current nuke power is safe, clean, etc.

My post proves otherwise....and that's just in the USA.

Someone needs to clue in old Primey that solar, geo thermal, wind require science as well...and they don't produce deadly waste that the company wonks have yet to develop a safe commercial way to decontaminate. Nope, just more drawing board theory and mishaps from the wealthy industrialists (this has been going on for YEARS, folks). And the band played on.



How much detail do you want to discuss here?

You and your buddy have been given ample opportunity for detailed discussion. As I said, I've read the content of the link(s), and when all is said and done it's STILL the same theoretical offerings that folk like you have been linking for YEARS. To date, neither you or old Primey can factually or logically prove otherwise.

And you don't DARE discuss the content of any link I provide, full quote non-withstanding.

So spare us all the inferred smoke blowing.
 
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Really? Prove it! Link to the article that shows nuke waste being safely reprocessed. If that is the case, why isn't this process international? I haven't read such in all these years. So keep in mind, theory is NOT reality to application. So either put up or shut up.

I swear you either the dumbest propagandist or you have the worst reading comprehension I've ever seen. Nowhere in my quote does it label Hanford as a commercial plant, and it states the decommissioned status of nuke weapons production. So you lied....a lie trying to what, insinuated that commercial plants handle it better? This was in 1994, genius. That means the plant was STILL treating waste from nuke plants and such. Got that bunky?

The point was that you had to have a whistle blower show willfully ignorant louts like you that things are NOT all hunky dory. That you stupidly try to BS past this is just insipid stubbornness on your part. I doubt you even read the material in the second link provided. Carry on.



Stupid bugger has never heard of vitrification, why am I not surprised?


Imbecile....IT'S STILL STORING RADIOACTIVE WASTE THAT CANNOT BE EXPOSED TO THE ENVIRONMENT OR ECOLOGY!

You're all hyped that there's a better garbage bag. Let us all know when you have an actual, working decontamination and recycling system.

Keep grasping at those straws, bunky. :palm:
 
Spent nuclear fuel rods consist of primarily two radioactive sources:

Unburnt fuel mostly U238
and
Transuranic fission fragments.

These are almost entirely alpha emitters and mostly just a thermal issue.
The danger from spent fuel is the small amount of gamma radiation that accompanies the decay process of these items.

Here's the Spent Nuclear Fuel for Dummies version that you can probably comprehend.

https://what-if.xkcd.com/29/#:~:tex....,decades until it’s inert enough to be moved

I'm more than willing to discuss nuclear power and am quite conversant in it considering I was a Navy nuke for decades, so I actually have academic and practical knowledge about things nuclear.

You on the other hand, I expect to prattle on with insults and ad hominem never giving a source to anything you say...
 
Oh, I agree here. The insanity is they might just start WW 3.

My apologies.
I assumed you thought it was all the left to blame.

But I agree that Biden is currently leading the charge to insanity.
And Trump was a manchild - IMO.
But I HIGHLY doubt he would ever have pushed this narrative.

You know the crazy thing?

I think Putin is our best chance at avoiding WW3 over this.
BIZARRE.
I think that Putin is too smart to get sucked into this crap.
He may be a horrible person...but he has proven to be no dummy.
 
Well, unlike your ill-informed opinion, France for one is already doing this:

https://www.stimson.org/2021/visit-...ch,for SNF. What is Spent Nuclear Fuel (SNF)?
https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/frances-efficiency-in-the-nuclear-fuel-cycle-what-can-oui-learn
https://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/Publications/PDF/TE_1587_web.pdf

The entirety of France's nuclear waste at the moment amounts to an approximate cube the size, height, and length, of a football field. It'd all fit inside a super Walmart.
France is reprocessing their waste successfully and they're storing the unusable parts in a facility like Yucca Mountain. It's only political opposition by idiots who know nothing about science--like you--that keep it from happening here.




Yes, commercial plants do much better than Hanford. Other than that, you bring out the usual insults ("you lie!") even as you have no clue whatsoever about what you are talking about.

https://www.nrc.gov/waste/spent-fuel-storage.html
https://www.iaea.org/publications/13516/storage-of-spent-nuclear-fuel



Okay, the EPA is incompetent when they are the ones doing things. On that I can agree. Their handling of the Goldking mine disaster is a perfect example of that incompetence. Government oversight of private enterprise has its value as does public oversight. That's what the commercial nuclear industry has. They handle their own waste, not incompetent government bureaucrats.

1. Idiot. Bragging about a better garbage bag and dump is not the same as creating a decontamination and recycling plant. Get back to me when that happens, because discussing "options" is not a working reality. And show me the quote where ALL of France's nuke waste since the beginning is the size as you say. I'll wait and acknowledge such if it exists.

2. Pay attention, genius. YOU originally labeled the Hanford site as commercial. It wasn't and never has been. Now think, genius. If I'm showing you a whistle blower telling the truth in 1994, then where do you think the waste was coming from? Maybe the full title will clue you in. Oh, and as for your claim about commercial plants;

https://ipfs.fleek.co/ipfs/QmXoypiz...DDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Nuclear_whistleblowers.html

https://www.osha.gov/sites/default/files/publications/OSHA3948.pdf

3. Man, you do shovel it, don't ya. Bottom line, my links PROVE YOU WRONG regarding nuke power plant safety records and the industry's ability to police itself. B

All you'll do is just run to nuke power company sites, ignore/deny/lie about any information that contradicts your wonkish parroting and listing....critical thinking and objective analysis be damned on your part. The chronology of the posts proves this....carry on.
 
Spent nuclear fuel rods consist of primarily two radioactive sources:

Unburnt fuel mostly U238
and
Transuranic fission fragments.

These are almost entirely alpha emitters and mostly just a thermal issue.
The danger from spent fuel is the small amount of gamma radiation that accompanies the decay process of these items.

Here's the Spent Nuclear Fuel for Dummies version that you can probably comprehend.

https://what-if.xkcd.com/29/#:~:tex....,decades until it’s inert enough to be moved

I'm more than willing to discuss nuclear power and am quite conversant in it considering I was a Navy nuke for decades, so I actually have academic and practical knowledge about things nuclear.

You on the other hand, I expect to prattle on with insults and ad hominem never giving a source to anything you say...

You were a Navy Nuke Like I was the Duke of Earl.

Look toodles, just because you swabbed the deck on a nuke powered carrier doesn't make you an expert, let alone highly knowledgeable on the subject....the chronology of our exchanges proves that. All you do here is just parrot moot points and company lines that STILL DOES NOT DETRACT FROM THE FACTS REGARDING THE CONTINUED PRACTICE OF STORAGE OF NUKE WASTE....nor does it change the fact of whistle blowers exposing the flaws in various commercial plants. Jeez, give it a rest and let's go back to the OP.
 
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Only an insipidly stubborn fool would try and deny the chronology of the posts. Seems you fit the bill, as no information provided can waver your willful ignorance.
Now run-a-long and parrot your little attempts at insult and slander to your hearts content. You'll be all tuckered out soon and sleep well tonight.

Dealing with TCL is like playing cliche bingo, 'the chronology of the posts' is one of his all time favourites.

No cliche, toodles..an accurate assessment of how I catch right wing wonks, Blowhards, BS artists, intellectually impotent clods and basic liars like yourself....which is why you hate it so. Go cry in a beer before your bedtime, bonzo. Unless you can come up with something more original or are willing to go back to discussing the OP, I'd say you're done here and should move on.
 
1. Idiot. Bragging about a better garbage bag and dump is not the same as creating a decontamination and recycling plant. Get back to me when that happens, because discussing "options" is not a working reality. And show me the quote where ALL of France's nuke waste since the beginning is the size as you say. I'll wait and acknowledge such if it exists.

You didn't do your homework. I put the sites up, but you were too lazy to read them. Then you try the burden of proof fallacy by demanding more proof even as you haven't looked at the proof already provided.

Although there are approximately 1,200 radioactive waste producers in France, the power reactors generate the bulk (58.8%) of radioactive waste nationally which reached a total volume of 1.54 million m3 by December 2020.

That is a cube roughly 115 meters on a side, slightly larger than a US football field and only slightly larger than a soccer field.
https://www.stimson.org/2021/visit-...ch,for SNF. What is Spent Nuclear Fuel (SNF)?

France is one of the few countries which reprocesses spent nuclear fuel (SNF) for potential reuse in light water reactors. As such, the DGR is intended for HLW and long-lived intermediate-level waste (LL-ILW) resulting from reprocessing operations, rather than for SNF.

For example, a December 2020 poll showed that 65% of those polled within 15 km of the Meuse/Haute-Marne site trusted Andra to manage radioactive waste in the long term, while the percentage decreased among respondents further away.
same source.


2. Pay attention, genius. YOU originally labeled the Hanford site as commercial. It wasn't and never has been. Now think, genius. If I'm showing you a whistle blower telling the truth in 1994, then where do you think the waste was coming from? Maybe the full title will clue you in. Oh, and as for your claim about commercial plants;

Your idiocy is on full display here. I said Hanford was NOT commercial. It was built explicitly for the production of plutonium for nuclear weapons.


That the EPA and government mismanaged their clean up is not indicative of commercial sites in the least. You are comparing apples to rutabagas.


3. Man, you do shovel it, don't ya. Bottom line, my links PROVE YOU WRONG regarding nuke power plant safety records and the industry's ability to police itself. B

All you'll do is just run to nuke power company sites, ignore/deny/lie about any information that contradicts your wonkish parroting and listing....critical thinking and objective analysis be damned on your part. The chronology of the posts proves this....carry on.

I already have, several times. Yet, you keep trotting out the burden of proof fallacy without a single attempt to actually refute anything and just use more insults and ad hominem.
 
No cliche, toodles..an accurate assessment of how I catch right wing wonks, Blowhards, BS artists, intellectually impotent clods and basic liars like yourself....which is why you hate it so. Go cry in a beer before your bedtime, bonzo. Unless you can come up with something more original or are willing to go back to discussing the OP, I'd say you're done here and should move on.

Id say you ought to take nuclear technology 101 course, your bullshit doesn't fly here.
 
You were a Navy Nuke Like I was the Duke of Earl.

Look toodles, just because you swabbed the deck on a nuke powered carrier doesn't make you an expert, let alone highly knowledgeable on the subject....the chronology of our exchanges proves that. All you do here is just parrot moot points and company lines that STILL DOES NOT DETRACT FROM THE FACTS REGARDING THE CONTINUED PRACTICE OF STORAGE OF NUKE WASTE....nor does it change the fact of whistle blowers exposing the flaws in various commercial plants. Jeez, give it a rest and let's go back to the OP.

You're a total fuckwit, what's wrong with you?
 
Well, unlike your ill-informed opinion, France for one is already doing this:

https://www.stimson.org/2021/visit-...ch,for SNF. What is Spent Nuclear Fuel (SNF)?
https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/frances-efficiency-in-the-nuclear-fuel-cycle-what-can-oui-learn
https://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/Publications/PDF/TE_1587_web.pdf

The entirety of France's nuclear waste at the moment amounts to an approximate cube the size, height, and length, of a football field. It'd all fit inside a super Walmart.
France is reprocessing their waste successfully and they're storing the unusable parts in a facility like Yucca Mountain. It's only political opposition by idiots who know nothing about science--like you--that keep it from happening here.




Yes, commercial plants do much better than Hanford. Other than that, you bring out the usual insults ("you lie!") even as you have no clue whatsoever about what you are talking about.

https://www.nrc.gov/waste/spent-fuel-storage.html
https://www.iaea.org/publications/13516/storage-of-spent-nuclear-fuel



Okay, the EPA is incompetent when they are the ones doing things. On that I can agree. Their handling of the Goldking mine disaster is a perfect example of that incompetence. Government oversight of private enterprise has its value as does public oversight. That's what the commercial nuclear industry has. They handle their own waste, not incompetent government bureaucrats.

He ought to read this? However we both know that he won't.

https://www.capgemini.com/gb-en/res...try-remain-at-the-cutting-edge-of-excellence/
 
You didn't do your homework. I put the sites up, but you were too lazy to read them. Then you try the burden of proof fallacy by demanding more proof even as you haven't looked at the proof already provided.



That is a cube roughly 115 meters on a side, slightly larger than a US football field and only slightly larger than a soccer field.
https://www.stimson.org/2021/visit-...ch,for SNF. What is Spent Nuclear Fuel (SNF)?




same source.




Your idiocy is on full display here. I said Hanford was NOT commercial. It was built explicitly for the production of plutonium for nuclear weapons.



That the EPA and government mismanaged their clean up is not indicative of commercial sites in the least. You are comparing apples to rutabagas.




I already have, several times. Yet, you keep trotting out the burden of proof fallacy without a single attempt to actually refute anything and just use more insults and ad hominem.

1. Idiot. that was for 2019...where does it say that ALL of the nuke waste from the time France started it's nuke program? THAT was my question that neither you or your site can answer. No burden of proof "fallacy", as your site does NOT meet the burden of proof for your insinuation. And please explain how the hell is a football field of nuke waste storage something to brag about? Because that doubles the next year, and the next and so on. In the end the same problem of all that deadly crap sitting there for future generations to deal with.

2. Fools like you trust the propaganda....and ignore any question or observation or point of fact that deters from that trust, just like you've done here. "Intended" and "potential" is not what's actually taking place in real time.

3. I STAND CORRECTED AND APOLOGIZE. You inferred that I equated Hanford with a commercial plant...I NEVER DID. Then I proceeded to demonstrate how whistle blowers in the private and gov't sectors exposed cover ups that could've led to civilian harm. You have YET to take back your statement about nuke plants being the bastion of safe operations in light of this information.

4. Stop blowing smoke and misrepresenting what is being stated. The plants that whistle blowers exposed WHERE NOT FOLLOWING GOV'T PROTOCOL REGARDING WASTE MANAGEMENT. To blame the EPA for purposeful mismanagement exposed by whistle blowers shows the dubious honesty you have in your defense of nuke plant operations.

5. A lie....all you is just rehash the SOS.....a lot of information that does NOT address the key questions and points I've put forth. In your mind, this "information dump" approach of yours is a sufficient avoidance of acknowledgement of the flaws I prove. Pathetic, but I expect nothing less from the insipidly stubborn and willfully ignorant.
 

Stop braying like the company jackass.....you think (yet) another promo site for the industry changes the validity and accuracy of my links. Yeah, like your buddy, insipid stubbornness and willful ignorance are your watch words. You two wonks are a joke. https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...en-t-sweating-should-we&p=4942895#post4942895


Don't waste my time with more of the same, either go back to discussing the OP or just blather the last word as I'll move on.
 
Stop braying like the company jackass.....you think (yet) another promo site for the industry changes the validity and accuracy of my links. Yeah, like your buddy, insipid stubbornness and willful ignorance are your watch words. You two wonks are a joke. https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...en-t-sweating-should-we&p=4942895#post4942895


Don't waste my time with more of the same, either go back to discussing the OP or just blather the last word as I'll move on.

Here is something else for you to ignore!

 
There is NO solution to safely disposing of your filthy nuclear waste, maggot- and the world objects to your vision of it as a dump.
Fuck off and kick a refugee, you mendacious wretch.
 
From all I've been watching, the civil defense moves are more in response to the Russian escalation and the ramp up by USA/NATO. Remember, Russia has been under sanctions from some time, so a stunt like this is Putin's frustration.
Russia has mased troops before. this time the US ( and not just Biden) is leading the call IT"S A WAR -
although Biden isn't helpful with his "imminent sack of Kyiv" remarks

The Kyiv civil defense is reacting to jingoistic outcries - although even Zelensky has asked it be toned down
 
Your first and last sentences are primary example of the fascist mind set of the Trumper...democracy be damned....only a willfully ignorant wonk would ignore the fact checked failures of Carlson and Gabbard.
LMAO. I'll add you the to the silent observers as we froth our minds into war - Gabbard in particular speaks out.
She didnt want Assad toppled like Qadaffi and the same results - fortunately Assad was not-
and the war grinded to a halt instead of Syria being run by jihadists
 
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