APP - Ukraine post-Crimea

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the truth about the 2014 (Euromaidan) coup in Ukraine, and it hasn’t benefited anyone other than the warmongers.
Ukraine is split in half and stuck in a frozen civil war; its debt-to-GDP ratio has doubled; pensions, social services and minimum wages ($140 a month) have been slashed; and the people are still ruled by corrupt oligarchs.
The regime change ops also ignited a chain reaction of needless hostility, hysterical Russophobia and crippling sanctions.
E.U. has lost more than $100 billion in trade with Russia in the last four years; and the U.S. has pushed Russia deep into China’s orbit.
Just like the neocon adventures in Iraq and Syria, the meddling in Ukraine will go down as another disastrous U.S. foreign policy.

What’s the official narrative about the events in late 2013 and early 2014 in Kiev, Ukraine?
There was the spontaneous and peaceful Euromaidan “revolution” by the great freedom-loving people,
which forced the corrupt Ukrainian President to flee the country, right? Not so simple.
There are many intriguing facts about geopolitics, 70 years of U.S. meddling in Ukraine, and
covert regime-change operations.
 
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U.S. meddling

First, objectively speaking, it’s curious that a U.S. Senator (John McCain) and the U.S. Assistant Secretary of State (Victoria Nuland) repeatedly attended political protests in another country. Oh, Nuland is also the wife of a prominent warmongering Neocon, Robert Kagan; and she’s also the one who famously said, “F*ck the E.U.” while discussing the future of Ukraine.

In the picture below, McCain is standing on the stage next to Oleh Tyahnybok, the leader of the far-right group called Svoboda, which uses a not-so-subtle logo that combines “N” and “Z.” Get it?

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Victoria Nuland also admitted during a speech in 2014 that the U.S. had spent $5 BILLION since the 1990s to spread “democracy” in Ukraine. (Here’s a link to a 1-min video of her speech).

^ video account holder terminated
 
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National Endowment of Democracy is a U.S. taxpayer-funded group that specializes in regime change.
It’s chief, Carl Gershman, wrote in a Washington Post op-ed in 2013 (just before the protests) that “Ukraine is the biggest prize.”

Michael McFaul – U.S. Ambassador to Russia, 2012–2014 – wrote an op-ed in WaPo in 2004 where he asked,
“Did Americans meddle in the internal affairs of Ukraine?” Then he answered it, “Yes.”
Why did McFaul write the article? Because in 2004, Soros and other NGOs fomented the Orange Revolution in Ukraine. Basically, the election was won by a pro-Russia guy. So people protested and demanded a new election.

Then, a month later, the pro-U.S. guy won the new election with 52% of the votes. Democracy, America-style.
BTW, that guy – Yanukovych – who lost the election in 2004 … ran again in 2010 and won fair and square.
That’s why we had Euromaidan.

History Rhymes

If you go back in history, you will see that the CIA worked with Neo-Nazis(!!) and ultra-nationalists in Ukraine for decades, starting right after World War II. Declassified CIA documents describe Project Aerodynamic in the 1950s and ’60s ...........
https://www.nationofchange.org/2018/08/15/how-and-why-the-us-staged-a-coup-in-ukraine/
 
National Endowment of Democracy is a U.S. taxpayer-funded group that specializes in regime change.
It’s chief, Carl Gershman, wrote in a Washington Post op-ed in 2013 (just before the protests) that “Ukraine is the biggest prize.”


Why did McFaul write the article? Because in 2004, Soros and other NGOs fomented the Orange Revolution in Ukraine. Basically, the election was won by a pro-Russia guy. So people protested and demanded a new election.

Then, a month later, the pro-U.S. guy won the new election with 52% of the votes. Democracy, America-style.
BTW, that guy – Yanukovych – who lost the election in 2004 … ran again in 2010 and won fair and square.
That’s why we had Euromaidan.

History Rhymes

If you go back in history, you will see that the CIA worked with Neo-Nazis(!!) and ultra-nationalists in Ukraine for decades, starting right after World War II. Declassified CIA documents describe Project Aerodynamic in the 1950s and ’60s ...........
https://www.nationofchange.org/2018/08/15/how-and-why-the-us-staged-a-coup-in-ukraine/

I took a look at the article you linked to at the end, which states the following amoung other things:
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False flag sniper attack

In a secretly recorded phone call in 2014, Estonia’s foreign minister revealed three shocking facts about the Maidan murders:

  • Same sniper bullets killed both the cops and the protesters
  • The investigators strongly believed that the new coalition was behind the snipers (by “new coalition,” he means the new government installed by the U.S.).
  • The new government refused to look into the matter.
(Here’s the link to an excerpt from the phone call).

Couple of years later, in an Italian documentary called “The Hidden Truth About Ukraine,” some men from the Republic of Georgia came forward and admitted that they were used as snipers in Kiev. As I describe in details in my book, similar sniper attacks were used in Libya and Syria as well to foment regime changes.

In summary, to advance misguided geopolitical goals, U.S./E.U. officials engineered protests and chaos and drove a democratically elected president out of the country. Then, without an election, new oligarchs – a billionaire and an IMF guy – were handpicked by the West to become the President and the Prime Minister of Ukraine! Democracy in action!

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The link to documentary mentioned above is dead, but I have a link to an article that gets into said documentary and also has links to the documentary itself, in 2 parts. The article in question can be seen here:
 
So, who is the enemy here? America is such a young country, we forget that other countries have issues with each other going back a millennia.

During the 10th and 11th centuries, Kievan Rus' became the largest and most powerful state in Europe, a period known as its Golden Age

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In 1349, in the aftermath of the Galicia–Volhynia Wars, the region was partitioned between the Kingdom of Poland and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. The region of Podolia was incorporated into Poland, and the lands of modern-day Ukraine became increasingly settled by Poles.

In 1648 there were large Cossack uprisings against the Commonwealth and the Polish king, which enjoyed wide support from the local population.

30-year war followed among Russia, Poland, the Crimean Khanate, the Ottoman Empire, and Cossacks. The Treaty of Perpetual Peace between Russia and Poland in 1686 divided the lands between them, reducing the portion over which Poland had claimed sovereignty to Ukraine west of the Dnieper river.

Finally, Catherine the Great incorporated much of Central Ukraine into the Russian Empire, and after the annexation of Crimea by Russia in 1783, the newly acquired lands were opened up to settlement by Russians

1783. That is about the time that the United States firmly became an independent nation. Now, we would not allow anyone from that far back to "take back", as it were, and American territory, so why should the Russians?

I am certainly no fan of the Russians, and Putin is a bad man. But we have to allow for the possibility that sometimes they might actually be right.
 
So, who is the enemy here? America is such a young country, we forget that other countries have issues with each other going back a millennia.

During the 10th and 11th centuries, Kievan Rus' became the largest and most powerful state in Europe, a period known as its Golden Age

10759001_f1c04547d1bb535571049a48c9cacb3e.jpg


In 1349, in the aftermath of the Galicia–Volhynia Wars, the region was partitioned between the Kingdom of Poland and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. The region of Podolia was incorporated into Poland, and the lands of modern-day Ukraine became increasingly settled by Poles.

In 1648 there were large Cossack uprisings against the Commonwealth and the Polish king, which enjoyed wide support from the local population.

30-year war followed among Russia, Poland, the Crimean Khanate, the Ottoman Empire, and Cossacks. The Treaty of Perpetual Peace between Russia and Poland in 1686 divided the lands between them, reducing the portion over which Poland had claimed sovereignty to Ukraine west of the Dnieper river.

Finally, Catherine the Great incorporated much of Central Ukraine into the Russian Empire, and after the annexation of Crimea by Russia in 1783, the newly acquired lands were opened up to settlement by Russians

1783. That is about the time that the United States firmly became an independent nation. Now, we would not allow anyone from that far back to "take back", as it were, and American territory, so why should the Russians?

I am certainly no fan of the Russians, and Putin is a bad man. But we have to allow for the possibility that sometimes they might actually be right.

I certainly agree that we need to allow for the possibility that sometimes other countries might be right. I definitely think that there are good reasons for Russia launching its military operation in Ukraine in February 2022. I think there are 2 documents that really lay out a lot of the solid evidence that this is the case. The first is the speech that Putin himself gave on the day he launched his military operation in Ukraine. It can be seen here:

It's a long speech, so I'll just quote the part that I personally think is the most important in terms of the -immediate- cause of his operation:
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This brings me to the situation in Donbass. We can see that the forces that staged the coup in Ukraine in 2014 have seized power, are keeping it with the help of ornamental election procedures and have abandoned the path of a peaceful conflict settlement. For eight years, for eight endless years we have been doing everything possible to settle the situation by peaceful political means. Everything was in vain.

As I said in my previous address, you cannot look without compassion at what is happening there. It became impossible to tolerate it. We had to stop that atrocity, that genocide of the millions of people who live there and who pinned their hopes on Russia, on all of us. It is their aspirations, the feelings and pain of these people that were the main motivating force behind our decision to recognise the independence of the Donbass people’s republics.

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Now, I fully acknowledge that those 2 paragraphs are pretty vague. One could argue that western Ukraine's killing of thousands of eastern Ukrainians had been going on for 8 years. Why would he suddenly decide to act in 2022? At first, I really wasn't sure, but then I read another article, this time from a former Swiss Intelligence Officer who spent a lot of time trying to work towards peace and actually worked with NATO in Ukraine just a bit before Russia's military operation began. A few months after Russia's military operation in Ukraine began, he published an article on the causes of the war, but most importantly, I think he made a -very- compelling case as to why Putin decided to start his operation when he did. His article can be seen here:

Again, the article is long, so I'll quote what I think homes in on this most immediate of causes:
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In fact, as early as February 16 [2022], Joe Biden knows that the Ukrainians began to shell the civilian populations of Donbass, putting Vladimir Putin in front of a difficult choice: to help Donbass militarily and create an international problem or to sit idle and watch Russian speakers from the Donbass being run over.

If he decides to intervene, Vladimir Putin can invoke the international obligation of “ Responsibility To Protect ” (R2P). But he knows that whatever its nature or scale, the intervention will trigger a shower of sanctions. Therefore, whether its intervention is limited to the Donbass or whether it goes further to put pressure on the West for the status of Ukraine, the price to be paid will be the same. This is what he explains in his speech on February 21.

That day, he acceded to the request of the Duma and recognized the independence of the two Republics of Donbass and, in the process, he signed treaties of friendship and assistance with them.

The Ukrainian artillery bombardments on the populations of Donbass continued and, on February 23, the two Republics requested military aid from Russia. On the 24th, Vladimir Putin invokes Article 51 of the United Nations Charter which provides for mutual military assistance within the framework of a defensive alliance.

In order to make the Russian intervention totally illegal in the eyes of the public we deliberately obscure the fact that the war actually started on February 16th. The Ukrainian army was preparing to attack the Donbass as early as 2021, as certain Russian and European intelligence services were well aware… The lawyers will judge.

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