U.S. Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe vs. Wade

[volsrock]

Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows

"We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft circulated inside the court.

The Supreme Court has voted to strike down the landmark Roe v. Wade decision, according to an initial draft majority opinion written by Justice Samuel Alito circulated inside the court and obtained by POLITICO.

The draft opinion is a full-throated, unflinching repudiation of the 1973 decision which guaranteed federal constitutional protections of abortion rights and a subsequent 1992 decision – Planned Parenthood v. Casey – that largely maintained the right. “Roe was egregiously wrong from the start,” Alito writes.


https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/supreme-court-abortion-draft-opinion-00029473

 

[T. A. Gardner]

About damn time! This is a state issue, not a federal one. There will be plenty of states you can go to to get an abortion regardless. There is no need for a federal law on this.

 

[BartenderElite]

About damn time! This is a state issue, not a federal one. There will be plenty of states you can go to to get an abortion regardless. There is no need for a federal law on this.

There goes your guarantee of big gains for the GOP.

Wouldn't surprise me a bit if they lost ground now. That is one huge over-reach, and out of tune w/ America.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

There goes your guarantee of big gains for the GOP.

Wouldn't surprise me a bit if they lost ground now. That is one huge over-reach, and out of tune w/ America.

For most people not on the Left, abortion is a non-issue.

 

[BartenderElite]

For most people not on the Left, abortion is a non-issue.

Yeah, we'll certainly see.

Changes the entire election.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Yeah, we'll certainly see.

Changes the entire election.

Abortion isn't even in the top 10 and never has been. It's an issue for the radical Left, but nobody else.

 

[BartenderElite]

Abortion isn't even in the top 10 and never has been. It's an issue for the radical Left, but nobody else.

Perception is everything in politics. The country just took a hard right turn, and that's what everyone sees.

We'll see how it plays out.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Perception is everything in politics. The country just took a hard right turn, and that's what everyone sees.

We'll see how it plays out.

And everyone is applauding it. It's pretty damn clear that the Left isn't getting a lot of love from the public at the moment.

 

[Flash]

About damn time! This is a state issue, not a federal one. There will be plenty of states you can go to to get an abortion regardless. There is no need for a federal law on this.

Agree about states' rights, but Roe was based on the Constitution and not federal law.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Agree about states' rights, but Roe was based on the Constitution and not federal law.

No, Roe was made up out of thin air. There is nothing in the Constitution you can point to giving anyone the right to an abortion.

 

[Flash]

No, Roe was made up out of thin air. There is nothing in the Constitution you can point to giving anyone the right to an abortion.

Well, the Supreme Court found it. They said the 9th Amendment includes the right to privacy (established in Griswold v. CT) and the 1st (assembly), 3rd (quartering troops), 4th (search) and 5th (incrimination) illustrate the founders meant to protect privacy. A decision between a woman and her doctor about abortion are covered under the right to privacy.

Thus, the Supreme Court made it a constitutional right (whether we agree or not).

 

[Text Drivers are Killers]

About damn time! This is a state issue, not a federal one. There will be plenty of states you can go to to get an abortion regardless. There is no need for a federal law on this.

It's more than that. It's not only that abortion SHOULD be left to the states. It's also that the constitution says it's a state issue. The tenth amendment.

 

[Text Drivers are Killers]

The other side of this coin is that any state that allows abortion must also ban forced child support by men. If the decision to live is hers and hers alone, then she has to accept the consequences.

 

[Text Drivers are Killers]

Dershowitz says this was leaked by a liberal clerk who is hoping to influence the final ruling.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Well, the Supreme Court found it. They said the 9th Amendment includes the right to privacy (established in Griswold v. CT) and the 1st (assembly), 3rd (quartering troops), 4th (search) and 5th (incrimination) illustrate the founders meant to protect privacy. A decision between a woman and her doctor about abortion are covered under the right to privacy.

Thus, the Supreme Court made it a constitutional right (whether we agree or not).

Those are absurd fig leaves for legislating from the bench which is what the Warren court did in the Roe v. Wade ruling. By the above legal reasoning, assisted suicide, or any other absurd or questionable procedure would be legal. Clearly that's not the case. These are state's issues not federal ones.
If state A wants abortion on demand, fine. If state B wants to outlaw it, fine. If you want an abortion, go to state A and get it. No big deal.

 

[Flash]

There goes your guarantee of big gains for the GOP.

Wouldn't surprise me a bit if they lost ground now. That is one huge over-reach, and out of tune w/ America.

Republicans don't need big gains to win the House since there is only about a six member majority.

It takes away an important reason for the one-issue voters to vote Republican. I saw a discussion by Republican consultants who agreed losing abortion as an issue would take away an important weapon.

 

[Lionfish]

Perception is everything in politics. The country just took a hard right turn, and that's what everyone sees.

We'll see how it plays out.

Dream on. When the asshole that leaked this is discovered, the democrat party will look even more foolish.

 

[Flash]

Those are absurd fig leaves for legislating from the bench which is what the Warren court did in the Roe v. Wade ruling. By the above legal reasoning, assisted suicide, or any other absurd or questionable procedure would be legal. Clearly that's not the case. These are state's issues not federal ones.
If state A wants abortion on demand, fine. If state B wants to outlaw it, fine. If you want an abortion, go to state A and get it. No big deal.

True, but we both know liberals and conservatives want government to do things not in the Constitution. It gives Congress the power to pass naturalization laws but there is no power to control immigration (although almost all of us favor such laws).

The MS law being ruled on prohibits abortion after 15 weeks. About 96% of abortions are performed before this time.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

For most people not on the Left, abortion is a non-issue.

It's the rabid christer goyim who are making the noise

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Dream on. When the asshole that leaked this is discovered, the democrat party will look even more foolish.

What's even funnier, is that the asshole who leaked it almost certainly expected a shit storm of opposition to arise immediately afterward. Instead, it's mostly been a non-issue and ignored. I bet they're freaking out worse about how their radical Leftist views aren't being taken seriously...