Trump & Putin – without Zelensky?

[glen_kirk]

Just read about the upcoming Trump-Putin meeting in Alaska – and I'm stunned. They're planning to discuss Ukraine's future...without Ukraine at the table! After all the "nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine" promises, how did Zelensky allow this?

We American taxpayers have poured billions into Ukraine – weapons, equipment, humanitarian aid. And now it seems decisions will be made behind closed doors while Kyiv just waits to be informed. Is this a diplomatic failure or the start of some backroom deal where Ukraine becomes a bargaining chip? Most importantly – what exactly are our tax dollars funding?

 

[Hawkeye10]

In proxy wars the proxy does as they are told...and this is even more than a proxy war.....we pay for everything in Ukraine and our Generals run the war.

 

[LurchAddams]

Just read about the upcoming Trump-Putin meeting in Alaska – and I'm stunned. They're planning to discuss Ukraine's future...without Ukraine at the table! After all the "nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine" promises, how did Zelensky allow this?

We American taxpayers have poured billions into Ukraine – weapons, equipment, humanitarian aid. And now it seems decisions will be made behind closed doors while Kyiv just waits to be informed. Is this a diplomatic failure or the start of some backroom deal where Ukraine becomes a bargaining chip? Most importantly – what exactly are our tax dollars funding?

Zelynsky knows, after the infamous white-house meeting that trump's all in on Putin.. Putin has actually built a chin-rest in front of his ballsack so that trump can suck his dick in comfort.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Barnes is cautiously optimistic that the Russians and Trump have a basic plan to end this war in spite of the fact that the Swamp/Wall Street Mafia want to keep it going.....very few on my grapevine are this optimistic.....most have concluded that Trump is a bumbling idiot.....the only other optimist I can think of is Alex (Sasha) Krainer:

Alaska summit, final off-ramp for Trump w/ Robert Barnes (Live)​

 

[Hawkeye10]

If Gallop is right 70% of Ukrainians say that this war needs to end now, the NATO lines are crumbling, and the Imperial Empire is not willing to send reinforcements because the citizens are not willing to die for this lost cause war attempting (and failing) to hurt Russia in pursuit of profits for the bankers.

Except for running terrorism operations, which are run by CIA/MI6/MOSSAD, this war likely can not be kept going.

 

[Nordberg]

Zelinsky cannot witness the Trump /Moscow deal. Trump does not have our translators or scribes in his Putin talks. He is cutting deals that will profit Trump.
Zelinsky cannot end the war. Putin can simply quit waging a war of choice against a peaceful neighbor. He will not because he has legal issues to deal with that being in war keep away.
This is a big show. Putin and Trump will figure out a way for a phony stoppage, Trump will claim a Nobel Prize and Putin will claim Ukraine violated the deal and restart.