Trump Exonerated?

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For those who have the ability to comprehend the English language, just where does it say Trump, or anyone for that matter, was exonerated?

Executive Summary For Volume I​

The investigation did not always yield admissible information or testimony, or a complete picture of the activities undertaken by subjects of the investigation. Some individuals invoked their Fifth Amendment right against compelled self-incrimination and were not, in the Office's judgment, appropriate candidates for grants of immunity. The Office limited its pursuit of other witnesses and information—such as information known to attorneys or individuals claiming to be members of the media—in light of internal Department of Justice policies. See, e.g., Justice Manual §§ 9-13.400, 13.410. Some of the information obtained via court process, moreover, was presumptively covered by legal privilege and was screened from investigators by a filter (or "taint") team. Even when individuals testified or agreed to be interviewed, they sometimes provided information that was false or incomplete, leading to some of the false-statements charges described above. And the Office faced practical limits on its ability to access relevant evidence as well-numerous witnesses and subjects lived abroad, and documents were held outside the United States.


Further, the Office learned that some of the individuals we interviewed or whose conduct we investigated—including some associated with the Trump Campaign—deleted relevant communications or communicated during the relevant period using applications that feature encryption or that do not provide for long-term retention of data or communications records. In such cases, the Office was not able to corroborate witness statements through comparison to contemporaneous communications or fully question witnesses about statements that appeared inconsistent with other known facts.


Accordingly, while this report embodies factual and legal determinations that the Office believes to be accurate and complete to the greatest extent possible, given these identified gaps, the Office cannot rule out the possibility that the unavailable information would shed additional light on (or cast in a new light) the events described in the report.

Executive Summary For Volume II

CONCLUSION​

Because we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment, we did not draw ultimate conclusions about the President's conduct. The evidence we obtained about the President's actions and intent presents difficult issues that would need to be resolved if we were making a traditional prosecutorial judgment. At the same time, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/full-text-mueller-reports-executive-summaries
 
You either have something your willing to take to court—or you don’t lol.

No prosecutor [who cares about their conviction rate] would go to court with a bunch of if’s and maybe/probablys. Defense attorneys would tear it apart.

Mullet punted for political concerns: he didn’t want to leave House democrats totally empty handed.
 
At the same time, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment. [Mullet]
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In terms of jurisprudence, Trump is cleared.

He ‘failed’ to meet the standard of evidence for the charge of obstruction of justice. Came close but couldn’t get over the hump. Keep in mind any number of people ‘dang near’ commit crimes every day but our legal system was never intended to be a game of horse shoes.

The quoted paragraph is word salad for all intents.

What it boils down to is there were instances where Trump ‘exposed himself’ to a possible obstruction charge. Problem is, if you’re thinking about charging him you have to look at the totality of evidence—because that is what is going to happen in a court room.

It will come up that there was no underlying crime. It will come up that virtually every document requested was provided and that the defendant was cooperative. You’re looking at a hung jury or an outright acquittal.

Declared innocent of charges by a jury. Mullet didn’t want his name attached to that indictment.
 
For those who have the ability to comprehend the English language, just where does it say Trump, or anyone for that matter, was exonerated?

Executive Summary For Volume I​

The investigation did not always yield admissible information or testimony, or a complete picture of the activities undertaken by subjects of the investigation. Some individuals invoked their Fifth Amendment right against compelled self-incrimination and were not, in the Office's judgment, appropriate candidates for grants of immunity. The Office limited its pursuit of other witnesses and information—such as information known to attorneys or individuals claiming to be members of the media—in light of internal Department of Justice policies. See, e.g., Justice Manual §§ 9-13.400, 13.410. Some of the information obtained via court process, moreover, was presumptively covered by legal privilege and was screened from investigators by a filter (or "taint") team. Even when individuals testified or agreed to be interviewed, they sometimes provided information that was false or incomplete, leading to some of the false-statements charges described above. And the Office faced practical limits on its ability to access relevant evidence as well-numerous witnesses and subjects lived abroad, and documents were held outside the United States.


Further, the Office learned that some of the individuals we interviewed or whose conduct we investigated—including some associated with the Trump Campaign—deleted relevant communications or communicated during the relevant period using applications that feature encryption or that do not provide for long-term retention of data or communications records. In such cases, the Office was not able to corroborate witness statements through comparison to contemporaneous communications or fully question witnesses about statements that appeared inconsistent with other known facts.


Accordingly, while this report embodies factual and legal determinations that the Office believes to be accurate and complete to the greatest extent possible, given these identified gaps, the Office cannot rule out the possibility that the unavailable information would shed additional light on (or cast in a new light) the events described in the report.

Executive Summary For Volume II

CONCLUSION​

Because we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment, we did not draw ultimate conclusions about the President's conduct. The evidence we obtained about the President's actions and intent presents difficult issues that would need to be resolved if we were making a traditional prosecutorial judgment. At the same time, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/full-text-mueller-reports-executive-summaries

Also this...

Mueller says messaging apps likely destroyed Trump-Russia evidence

Tech challenges prevented special counsel from establishing full picture of what happened


https://www.rollcall.com/news/muell...g-apps-likely-destroyed-trump-russia-evidence
 
The fact that Trump said, upon Mueller's appointment, "I'm so fucked" (paraphrasing) says all we need to know about both cooperation with the Russians, and obstruction of justice.
 
The fact that Trump said, upon Mueller's appointment, "I'm so fucked" (paraphrasing) says all we need to know about both cooperation with the Russians, and obstruction of justice.
incomplete quote -cherry picking changed the meaning -
Trump said "Im' fucked" my presidency because of a SC derails it
 
Also this...

The headline is a lie.

Mullet didn’t say that encryption was hiding evidence of collusion. This is the kind of baseless speculation the News Fakers indulged in for three years when it came to Trump and Russia. In fact, the whole charade would have been impossible without them.

They are despicable.
 
Poor Trapper. Still clinging to the collusion delusion. Can't let it go.

Poor Irish you mean. Can't accept that his master is a lying crook, and all of his sins are being covered up by liars, and cowards.

You are the same kind of fool that put Hitler in control, and that all dictators have depended on for eternity.
 
You either have something your willing to take to court—or you don’t lol.

No prosecutor [who cares about their conviction rate] would go to court with a bunch of if’s and maybe/probablys. Defense attorneys would tear it apart.

Mullet punted for political concerns: he didn’t want to leave House democrats totally empty handed.

"You either have something your willing to take to court—or you don’t lol."

So, given the Justice Dept's policy that a sitting President could not be indited, and an acting AG who endorsed that policy, Mueller never had anything from day one that he could have "taken to court," correct?

Certainly Mueller knew the same realities, which is probably why he added the "does not vindicate" terminology to leave the thereafter to Congress
 
"You either have something your willing to take to court—or you don’t lol."

So, given the Justice Dept's policy that a sitting President could not be indited, and an acting AG who endorsed that policy, Mueller never had anything from day one that he could have "taken to court," correct?

Certainly Mueller knew the same realities, which is probably why he added the "does not vindicate" terminology to leave the thereafter to Congress

The DOJ regulations also prohibit conflicts of interest and there were a minimum of two that Mullet and/or Rosenstein ignored. DOJ regulations also prohibit leaks about ongoing investigations.

Suddenly the regulations matter lol?
 
The DOJ regulations also prohibit conflicts of interest and there were a minimum of two that Mullet and/or Rosenstein ignored. DOJ regulations also prohibit leaks about ongoing investigations.

Suddenly the regulations matter lol?

Wait a minute, no "also," you didn't address my question, "so, given the Justice Dept's policy that a sitting President could not be indited, and an acting AG who endorsed that policy, Mueller never had anything from day one that he could have "taken to court," correct?
 
"You either have something your willing to take to court—or you don’t lol."

So, given the Justice Dept's policy that a sitting President could not be indited, and an acting AG who endorsed that policy, Mueller never had anything from day one that he could have "taken to court," correct?

Certainly Mueller knew the same realities, which is probably why he added the "does not vindicate" terminology to leave the thereafter to Congress

If Mueller had said "not" guilty, you would argue he said "knot" guilty and then pronounceTrump guilty.
 
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