Trump camp says persona is 'an act' as it woos GOP insiders

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I have thought all along that Trump is a lot cleverer than people give him credit for, looks like I was right.

The Trump campaign outlined their general election strategy to the Republican establishment on Thursday in a closed-door briefing to members of the Republican National Committee. Over heaping piles of seafood, plates of cheese and an open bar at a resort in Hollywood, Florida, newly hired Trump campaign staffers Paul Manafort and Rick Wiley, as well as former presidential rival Ben Carson, tried to sell longtime party activists on their candidate’s ability to beat Hillary Clinton in November.

This comes as part of a new charm offensive by Trump to become more of a traditional candidate that will include a foreign policy speech Wednesday at the National Press Club. The major and controversial shift in campaign strategy comes as Manafort has worked to sideline campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, who has urged the necessity of continuing to let “Trump be Trump” and maintaining an unconventional outsider campaign.
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Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/21/trump-campaign-republican-establishment-election-strategy
 
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Huh! So Trump is a phony and his audience of cheering mostly white people are being taken as fools? Sounds about right but for all the wrong reasons. Reason, wherefore art thou.
 
midcan5 said:
Huh! So Trump is a phony and his audience of cheering mostly white people are being taken as fools? Sounds about right but for all the wrong reasons. Reason, wherefore art thou.
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Hardly a new strategy, now is it? Johnson played on his Texas background to get elected but he did many things that pissed off the South.

Robert Caro, the author of the definitive and magisterial biography of the Texan president, has said that, while attempting to get a piece of legislation passed, Johnson would listen to all of the arguments against it, until he could zero in on the one thing that wasn’t mentioned: that element of the bill that no one could object to.

LBJ managed to drive through the biggest social revolution in American history after Roosevelt’s New Deal: the Great Society. He did this in the teeth of the enmity of his own native region: the “Solid South”, those deeply conservative states from Texas to Virginia. He stated, after he signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, that the Democratic Party had lost the South for a generation. And he was right.

Johnson did what Obama is not temperamentally suited to: build coalitions. And the current president had better learn quickly, because he has just as formidable a task as LBJ: the reshaping of American society to fit that mandate from the 21st century. Yet he must also convince that 21st century to face up to the legacies of the 20th: the looming fiscal cliff; the need for immigration reform; a tsunami of entitlements that could bankrupt the state; and the need to reach out to the 48 per cent or so who did not vote for him and feel hard done by. At the same time, he must avoid second-term hubris: the Nixonian belief that, free from the pressures of re-election, he can do what he wants.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...resident-Barack-Obamas-new-guiding-light.html
 
midcan5 said:
Huh! So Trump is a phony and his audience of cheering mostly white people are being taken as fools? Sounds about right but for all the wrong reasons. Reason, wherefore art thou.
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My home state wasn't take as a fool, twice, in the last two elections lol. I'm rather proud of that, thanks!

Trump needs to morph into the statesman version of himself in order to win the general. You can call it being clever but that's giving it to much credit. It's rather obvious, given his negative poll numbers, that Trump needs to 'pivot' in that regard.

The interesting question is whether he can do it.
 
Don't most candidates do this the closer they get to winning the nom?

The guy is a firecracker, he blew up the pubs, which I think he enjoyed doing and he basically ran an independent campaign while getting on the pubs ballots.

Pretty smawt guy.
 
Northwestman said:
Don't most candidates do this the closer they get to winning the nom?

The guy is a firecracker, he blew up the pubs, which I think he enjoyed doing and he basically ran an independent campaign while getting on the pubs ballots.

Pretty smawt guy.
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Exactly. It's a kind of pivot--- the only difference is that it has to do with the way he comports himself as opposed to ideology. Hillary was dragged way to the left in having to hold Bernie off so she'll need to pivot back to the center before the general in order to score with the independents.

It's same old same old. Practically every presidential candidate does it coming out of the primary.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Exactly. It's a kind of pivot


What will be interesting to watch is such a big part of Trump's appeal is his 'fvck it' attitude and willingness to say anything. If he tries to turn himself into a more toned down 'regular' politician will he lose any appeal with his base?
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cawacko said:
What will be interesting to watch is such a big part of Trump's appeal is his 'fvck it' attitude and willingness to say anything. If he tries to turn himself into a more toned down 'regular' politician will he lose any appeal with his base?
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Interesting question. But it's kind of a no-brainer on Trumps part: he HAS to tone it down or there's a large swath of the electorate he won't appeal to.

Trumps base is pretty solid. I don't think they'd leave him if he became more kind and gentler lol.
 
sensible.

Id dont give a care about how nice he is. he can kiss babies by day but hiw will he flesh out
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Interesting question. But it's kind of a no-brainer on Trumps part: he HAS to tone it down or there's a large swath of the electorate he won't appeal to.

Trumps base is pretty solid. I don't think they'd leave him if he became more kind and gentler lol.
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You can still be the donald. This was always in the trajectory only fine tuning the particulars.
 
Milagro said:
I have thought all along that Trump is a lot cleverer than people give him credit for, looks like I was right.


Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/21/trump-campaign-republican-establishment-election-strategy
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I don't think he's so clever. If this is really true then he's raised phoniness to an art form. In any case much of his past life is on the record so he can't play the fake persona card to explain why he was so nasty before he started dabbling in politics.
 
I know Trump wants to Pivot.

He even has held down a couple interviews and speeches where he has done a good job trying to appear less angary and bullying, but I have questions...

1) Can he do it long term, is he able to play that part or will his ego get in the way when things get hot?
2) If he is able to pivot, does he lose his allure? He got where he is based on the cult of personality, now he is talking about changing it. I think he will come across as fake.
3) How does he viscously go after HRC like he keeps saying he is going to do, while still trying to be presidential?
 
Is the angry bully the act, or will being presidential be the act?

Will people fall for it? Is the electorate's memory so short?
 
Is this not the big knock on HRC, that she is willing to act anyway to win and that she is never genuine?
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
My home state wasn't take as a fool, twice, in the last two elections lol. I'm rather proud of that, thanks!

Trump needs to morph into the statesman version of himself in order to win the general. You can call it being clever but that's giving it to much credit. It's rather obvious, given his negative poll numbers, that Trump needs to 'pivot' in that regard.

The interesting question is whether he can do it.
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Who can trust that pivoting?
 
I love it when Trumps says stuff like, "When the time comes, I'm going to act so Presidential that it will make your head spin."

You either are Presidential, or you're not. Trump is a con man.
 
Jarod said:
I know Trump wants to Pivot.

He even has held down a couple interviews and speeches where he has done a good job trying to appear less angary and bullying, but I have questions...

1) Can he do it long term, is he able to play that part or will his ego get in the way when things get hot?
2) If he is able to pivot, does he lose his allure? He got where he is based on the cult of personality, now he is talking about changing it. I think he will come across as fake.
3) How does he viscously go after HRC like he keeps saying he is going to do, while still trying to be presidential?
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Sounds more like statements than questions.
There is no pivot. Do you think he is one dimentional?
He's not in a crowd any longer, don't have to be loud.
 
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