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  • Brian Dean Miller was sentenced to 27 months in prison for writing on Craigslist: "People, the time has come for revolution. It is time for Obama to die. I am dedicating my life to the death of Obama and every employee of the federal government."
  • Walter Bagdasarian said Obama "will have a 50 cal in the head soon" after calling for someone to shoot him in a racist online rant. He was sentenced to 60 days in a residential corrections home and two years' probation.
  • Vikrim Buddhi was arrested for posting "Call for the assassination of GW Bush" on a Yahoo Finance comments section. He was sentenced to 57 months in prison.






http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-hot-water-secret-service-article-1.2744810
 
I was listening to some "EXPERT" discussing it this morning on NPR & really there is zero chance of him being charged, although if they wanted to, they most certainly could call him in for questioning-just to embarrass him, if nothing else..

As a reality tv star he is probably familiar w/ the reality show ORANGE IS THE NEW BLACK, & if there is any reality to that, hopefully he finds out in some holding cell wearing the cuffs of the meanest cop in town...:D
 
Legion Grind said:
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  • Brian Dean Miller was sentenced to 27 months in prison for writing on Craigslist: "People, the time has come for revolution. It is time for Obama to die. I am dedicating my life to the death of Obama and every employee of the federal government."
  • Walter Bagdasarian said Obama "will have a 50 cal in the head soon" after calling for someone to shoot him in a racist online rant. He was sentenced to 60 days in a residential corrections home and two years' probation.
  • Vikrim Buddhi was arrested for posting "Call for the assassination of GW Bush" on a Yahoo Finance comments section. He was sentenced to 57 months in prison.






http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-hot-water-secret-service-article-1.2744810
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Unless you're John Kerry or any other left wing icon, spare me. Also, get educated, the Bagdasarian case was overturned on appeal to the 9the and ruled within his 1st amendment rights, your source is a fucking joke.
 
Bill said:
Whatever Trump’s intent in Wilmington, the “imminence” requirement is the bar to incitement charges against Trump. What the Court meant is that the First Amendment requires a showing that the violence was literally about to occur at that very moment. “Kill that person over there right now!” is the template.

By that standard, did Trump “incite” violence against Clinton? No.
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Would that change if sometime within the next 48 hours an incident occurs?
 
Establishment said:
Would that change if sometime within the next 48 hours an incident occurs?
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Sorry, I quoted the wrong part (got a phone call) but I'm not sure, as he would simply say his intent was not to incite, eventhough some nut could say he acted upon what he said..



To date, on balance, the experiment has served us well. Trump may not be a criminal, but as of Tuesday, he has begun a mortal assault against the utility, indeed, the very concept, of free speech.

And there are three more months to go.
 
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Legion said:
Consider the words of Justice Samuel Alito’s concurrence in a “threat” case, Elonis v. United States: “True threats inflict great harm and have little if any social value. A threat may cause serious emotional stress for the person threatened and those who care about that person, and a threat may lead to a violent confrontation.”


http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...trump-incite-violence-against-clinton/495302/
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The Bagdasarian case was overturned by the 9th circuit and none other than Bill Clinton has appealed and lobbied for the release of Buddhi who did more than just make a passing remark he hacked thousands of Purdue students yahoo IDs and used spam bots to massively call for Iraqis to attack US troops and for Bush to be assassinated.

http://silha.umn.edu/news/Summer2011/NinthCircuitOverturnsConviction.html

http://m.ndtv.com/diaspora/will-clinton-help-free-iit-alumnus-from-us-jail-402683

https://web.archive.org/web/2009102...US-jail-alleges-abuse/articleshow/5135042.cms
 
Legion Grind said:
That makes your master's call to assassinate the Hildebeast OK in your mind, coward?
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It wasnt a call to anything except for people who support the 2nd amendment to get to the voting booth and actually yes, Bill Clinton himself supports Buddhis right to actually call for the assassination of GWB which was more than a passing remark but a calculated effort to actually see it come to fruition by disseminating it thousand of times via spam bot through hacked email accounts.
 
The secret service has recognized that Trumpf has been inciting the assassination of a presidential candidate.
This is not going to go away.
 
A “true threat” doesn’t have to have the form, “I will harm you.”

In the late 1990s, an anti-abortion group posted a “Wanted” website containing a list of abortion providers—with the names of murder victims among them “greyed out.”

The site didn’t make clear who, if anyone, might kill the surviving doctors; but in context, its message of terror was clear. The Ninth Circuit affirmed that this speech could constitute a threat.

In 1985, a disturbed person warned the Secret Service that a shadowy person supposedly named “Mr. Image” was planning to kill Ronald Reagan. There was no plot; the letter writer meant not himself but an imaginary conspiracy by the National Council of Churches. Nonetheless, agents arrested the man. Charges were later dismissed, but the Supreme Court upheld the arrest as reasonable.



http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/did-trump-incite-violence-against-clinton/495302/
 
Scholar Says Trump's 'Second Amendment' Comment Doesn't Cross A Legal Line

Scholar Says Trump's 'Second Amendment' Comment Doesn't Cross A Legal Line AUDIO 05:19 A good five min listen

August 10, 2016
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Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump claps with the audience during a campaign event at Trask Coliseum on Aug. 9, 2016 in Wilmington, North Carolina. (Sara D. Davis/Getty Images)
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Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump claps with the audience during a campaign event at Trask Coliseum on Aug. 9, 2016 in Wilmington, North Carolina. (Sara D. Davis/Getty Images)

Donald Trump received another firestorm of criticism Tuesday, after he made comments suggesting Second Amendment advocates might stop Hillary Clinton's gun control agenda.

Making the unsubstantiated claim that Clinton wished to abolish the Second Amendment, he went on to talk about the presidential power to choose Supreme Court judges. “If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks,” he said, adding, “Although the Second Amendment people — maybe there is, I don’t know.”

Critics said he was inciting violence against Clinton, something Trump denied.

Was Trump's comment about the Second Amendment legal? The Secret Service said it was "aware" of what Trump said, but legal scholars, including Scott Sundby of the University of Miami, say Trump did not cross a legal line.

Here & Now's Robin Young speaks with Sundby about why that may be the case.
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Scott E. Sundby, professor of law at the University of Miami School of Law.
 
Certainly if an attempt is made on Clinton's life after she is elected. Trump could be named as a co-conspirator for planting and inciting the idea to kill her before she could choose Justices.
 
Legionthecat said:
Certainly if an attempt is made on Clinton's life after she is elected. Trump could be named as a co-conspirator for planting and inciting the idea to kill her before she could choose Justices.
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According to Sundby, not it isn't enough.

Personally I wish it was(as I believe it was his intent) & they tossed him in general population county jail anywhere but proving his intentions are very difficult, especially w/ a dream team army of lawyers...........
 
Bill said:
According to Sundby, not it isn't enough.

Personally I wish it was(as I believe it was his intent) & they tossed him in general population county jail anywhere but proving his intentions are very difficult, especially w/ a dream team army of lawyers...........
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Sundby may well be wrong. There is no precedent to cite.
 
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