The Republicans Want a More Ignorant Population....

[Cancel 2016.2]

You and others still respond to Ken and \(\(\(\/)/)/)/ . Yurt especially can ruin any number of threads with his ongoing feud. So why don't you guys put the people you don't like on IA?

Looks to me like some of you want it both ways, telling me to ignore webbway but engaging with Ken and \(\(\(\/)/)/)/ yourselves.

Edit: By engaging, I mean commenting on their posts indirectly even if you (pl.) don't actually talk to them.

Looks to me like you are bitching a whole lot about NOTHING. Some of us have told you that we have webb on ignore. Some of us ALSO have the troll on ignore.

Ken is like Ditzie. He is partisan and tends to post highly partisan links/articles/comics... but the topics are sometimes worth discussing. So I don't have him on IA. Same with Ditzie. That said, nothing stops me from being critical of either of them.

You seem to be wanting to create some imaginary problem.

Do YOU call out the stupidity on the LEFT? EVER? IF not, perhaps a bit of reflection upon your OWN choices of who to respond to would be better suited prior to your attempts to shout 'da EVILZ' at someone else.

 

[cawacko]

You and others still respond to Ken and \(\(\(\/)/)/)/ . Yurt especially can ruin any number of threads with his ongoing feud. So why don't you guys put the people you don't like on IA?

Looks to me like some of you want it both ways, telling me to ignore webbway but engaging with Ken and \(\(\(\/)/)/)/ yourselves.

I'll respond to Ken's articles yes but I do not respond to the troll. You'll notice with Ken, like Webbway, you won't get a follow up response or answer from them. Hence the term 'hit and run' poster.

I've had the troll on IA for quite awhile. A few others do to. Yes, why others choose to engage him I don't know. And yes Yurt will talk to him forever which I don't understand. I wish he wouldn't but that his own decision. I can periodically see the trolls posts when others Reply With Quote and he seems to be quite good at namecalling himself so he's not exactly a very nice poster.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

It's an ongoing puzzle to me that righties constantly rag on \(\(\(\/)/)/)/ for trolling yet your racist, bigoted tripe gets a pass from them.

Well he is honest about it. And is far less....stalkery.

 

[Rationalist]

What should Harvard be criticized for? Having a large endowment? Why? I have no problem with it.

Nor do I...

My problem is with how Harvard spends it and that the people that contribute to Harvard operate under the illusion that they are donating to an actual charitable organization.

Precisely. But where do your fellow liberals stand on this issue? Before you, I've never heard any liberal criticize Harvard. It would seem Big Academia as a whole is exempt from liberal criticism. Why do you think that is the case? Then we have the idiots such as Stupidmankenneth who have the nerve to blame conservatives for the high cost of education.

Ivy League schools could do a LOT more to make a quality education more affordable.

 

[christiefan915]

That is just bullshit. The Troll is ragged on because he IS A TROLL.

Ken is disagreed with to be sure given the utter stupidity he posts. But so is Ditzie. Both are complete partisan hacks. Both are called on it. But the troll is a troll. Period.

He, like Webb is on ignore.

You have Dixie on ignore?

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

You have Dixie on ignore?

NO.... I HAVE WEBB and the Troll on IA

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

I wonder how expensive higher education would be if student loans weren't soley available from the government, or able to be claimed on bankruptcy. I mean, it doesn't cost me a damn thing (and I could afford it if it did), but it's still the government paying for my college. Luckily I go to a trade school, so I get more value for my dollar.

 

[christiefan915]

Looks to me like you are bitching a whole lot about NOTHING. Some of us have told you that we have webb on ignore. Some of us ALSO have the troll on ignore.

Ken is like Ditzie. He is partisan and tends to post highly partisan links/articles/comics... but the topics are sometimes worth discussing. So I don't have him on IA. Same with Ditzie. That said, nothing stops me from being critical of either of them.

You seem to be wanting to create some imaginary problem.

Do YOU call out the stupidity on the LEFT? EVER? IF not, perhaps a bit of reflection upon your OWN choices of who to respond to would be better suited prior to your attempts to shout 'da EVILZ' at someone else.

I call out people who make bigoted, racist comments and frankly most of them come from the right. I'm trying to think of a lefty who posts like that but no one comes to mind, feel free to enlighten me. If you go back to my original comment, I was very specific with my complaints about webbway, and still nobody has fully explained why his comments generally get a pass and even thanks.

I don't call out Dixie for posting partisan links although I'll argue with some I disagree with. Partisanship is the norm here.

Maybe you should go back and peruse the threads and see how many of them involve \(\(\(\/)/)/)/ , LegionTroll, stalking, supposedly posting personal info, name-changing, static IPs, calling people pedophiles, following someone from forum to forum, etc. etc. ad nauseam. That's a big deal to some people here yet you aren't calling them out for creating "imaginary problems."

I think webbway is a nasty piece of goods and his crap isn't a whole lot of nothing to me. We all have our pet peeves, don't we, it's just that yours and mine are different.

 

[cawacko]

I call out people who make bigoted, racist comments and frankly most of them come from the right. I'm trying to think of a lefty who posts like that but no one comes to mind, feel free to enlighten me. If you go back to my original comment, I was very specific with my complaints about webbway, and still nobody has fully explained why his comments generally get a pass and even thanks.

I don't call out Dixie for posting partisan links although I'll argue with some I disagree with. Partisanship is the norm here.

Maybe you should go back and peruse the threads and see how many of them involve \(\(\(\/)/)/)/ , LegionTroll, stalking, supposedly posting personal info, name-changing, static IPs, calling people pedophiles, following someone from forum to forum, etc. etc. ad nauseam. That's a big deal to some people here yet you aren't calling them out for creating "imaginary problems."

I think webbway is a nasty piece of goods and his crap isn't a whole lot of nothing to me. We all have our pet peeves, don't we, it's just that yours and mine are different.

Put him on IA then. He rarely posts here. You (we, anyone) are not going to get into a (long) discussion with him so therefore it doesn't do much good to respond to his posts. Ignore him like most people do.

 

[WinterBorn]

No, PEOPLE (that includes non-righties) rag on the troll not because he makes liberal comments but because he's a troll. If people on the right only wanted to hear ideas and comments that they agree with they would have every left leaning person on this sight on IA or they would go to a sean hannity site or something equivilent to that. The troll is about trolling. Ask non-righties like WinterBorn he'll tell you.

Thats right, I'll tell you. But whether I am a non-rightie or not depends on who you ask. lol

 

[Crashk]

You are like poufs in a ring!
It is not Democrats or republicans that want to keep the populace ignorand it is mega money. They are also the people who cream their jeans at the thought of the matter being divided along party lines. You, therefore are the mugs!
An uneducated population doesn't ask questions.
An uneducated population will work for less money.
An uneducated population will keep the streets clean and mean that fewer immigrants are needed.
An uneducated population will consume what it is told to consume, live like it is told to live, want what it is told to want... and die when it is told to die.

What a bunch of uneducated, racist, up-your-own-arse bastards you are. Making little fights amongst yourselves while they sit back on their 400 ft yachts, pay nothing towards society and watch you idiots die from overwork.

what does the corporate oligarchy gain by the destruction of public education in the US?
Ignorance is Strength


A nation that destroys its systems of education, degrades its public information, guts its public libraries and turns its airwaves into vehicles for cheap, mindless amusement becomes deaf, dumb and blind. It prizes test scores above critical thinking and literacy. It celebrates rote vocational training and the singular, amoral skill of making money. It churns out stunted human products, lacking the capacity and vocabulary to challenge the assumptions and structures of the corporate state. It funnels them into a caste system of drones and systems managers. It transforms a democratic state into a feudal system of corporate masters and serfs.

http://www.republicansforobama.org/node/9267

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Looks to me like you are bitching a whole lot about NOTHING. Some of us have told you that we have webb on ignore. Some of us ALSO have the troll on ignore.

Ken is like Ditzie. He is partisan and tends to post highly partisan links/articles/comics... but the topics are sometimes worth discussing. So I don't have him on IA. Same with Ditzie. That said, nothing stops me from being critical of either of them.

You seem to be wanting to create some imaginary problem.

Do YOU call out the stupidity on the LEFT? EVER? IF not, perhaps a bit of reflection upon your OWN choices of who to respond to would be better suited prior to your attempts to shout 'da EVILZ' at someone else.

but if we put the troll on ignore what are we supposed to do on slow days when none of the intelligent posters are around to rag on?.....

 

[RockX]

It's an ongoing puzzle to me that righties constantly rag on \(\(\(\/)/)/)/ for trolling yet your racist, bigoted tripe gets a pass from them.

I am sorry you cannot handle the truth, look at the public school system, what type of teachers are in minority schools? Either inexperienced teachers or one's that have been transferred and fucked up somewhere else during their career. Who is to blame, unions and democrats. How about vouchers, another option for minorities to go to a different school and improve themselves, what happened, unions and democrats voted it down. Then, once they get out of school and cannot read, what do they do, get on government assistance for food, shelter and so on.

 

[signalmankenneth]

The Wealthy Want to Stop Upward Mobility In America and Make Being Rich a Members....

The Wealthy Want to Stop Upward Mobility In America and Make Being Rich a Members Only Club?!!

The other day, at Truthout wrote a commentary entitled, "The Republicans Want a More Ignorant Population, So They Are Cutting Educational Funds for College and Pre-College."

Among the comments on Facebook was an insightful one from a reader named Mario:

This is really an assault on the working class. A good education is the first step towards upward social mobility. An ignorant populace (the Republican dream) is one that is easier to control and convince.

This will leave the road open for the upper classes - and their well-educated children - to place a stranglehold on labor laws and civil liberties in America. If Republicans are successful, we had better prepare our children for the sweatshops, because that is where Wall Street is taking us back to.

One can argue that it is an exaggerated fear to think that American labor would revert to sweatshops, but such a scenario is possible. Many Republicans on Capitol Hill are opposed to the minimum wage and would like to do away with it. Without a legally mandated base - and barely livable - salary, many manufacturers would revert to the lowest possible compensation that would attract employees in the US. Given the severity of the ongoing economic situation, that hourly wage could then indeed drop dramatically to a sweatshop scale.

Furthermore, by decreasing the affordability of public colleges and universities, Republican legislators are creating a cul-de-sac of limited opportunity for most poor, middle- and working-class Americans.

Mario is correct. The Republican war on education is part of an overall strategy to limit the upward social and economic mobility of Americans who are not already wealthy.

While other nations, such as India and China, are broadening educational opportunities for their citizens and developing economies and a labor force for the future, the Republican Party and global corporations based in America are attempting to move the US economy backward.

This will result in a caste system that will create not a "free market," but a relatively closed one. Wealth and economic well-being then become not a result of ingenuity, education and entrepreneurialism, but rather of family inheritance.

This is also called a fossilized economy.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

The Wealthy Want to Stop Upward Mobility In America and Make Being Rich a Members Only Club?!!

The other day, at Truthout wrote a commentary entitled, "The Republicans Want a More Ignorant Population, So They Are Cutting Educational Funds for College and Pre-College."

Among the comments on Facebook was an insightful one from a reader named Mario:

This is really an assault on the working class. A good education is the first step towards upward social mobility. An ignorant populace (the Republican dream) is one that is easier to control and convince.

This will leave the road open for the upper classes - and their well-educated children - to place a stranglehold on labor laws and civil liberties in America. If Republicans are successful, we had better prepare our children for the sweatshops, because that is where Wall Street is taking us back to.

One can argue that it is an exaggerated fear to think that American labor would revert to sweatshops, but such a scenario is possible. Many Republicans on Capitol Hill are opposed to the minimum wage and would like to do away with it. Without a legally mandated base - and barely livable - salary, many manufacturers would revert to the lowest possible compensation that would attract employees in the US. Given the severity of the ongoing economic situation, that hourly wage could then indeed drop dramatically to a sweatshop scale.

Furthermore, by decreasing the affordability of public colleges and universities, Republican legislators are creating a cul-de-sac of limited opportunity for most poor, middle- and working-class Americans.

Mario is correct. The Republican war on education is part of an overall strategy to limit the upward social and economic mobility of Americans who are not already wealthy.

While other nations, such as India and China, are broadening educational opportunities for their citizens and developing economies and a labor force for the future, the Republican Party and global corporations based in America are attempting to move the US economy backward.

This will result in a caste system that will create not a "free market," but a relatively closed one. Wealth and economic well-being then become not a result of ingenuity, education and entrepreneurialism, but rather of family inheritance.

This is also called a fossilized economy.

Ah the wisdom of Facebook. Without it people without valid opinions on anything might not be heard, and then where would we be?