The populist wave is over, a centrist will win the next election.

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Amadeus

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I was a mild Bernie supporter, and a Hillary critic. That said, if someone like Hillary (but not Hillary) were to run in the next election, they'd clean house. The populist wave has proven to be a short-lived fade and ultimately a disaster for the country and a threat to world order and security. The taste of Trump will leave such a bad taste in America's mouth that Bernie couldn't win (even though he represents positive, constructive populism). I personally think that the Republican party will be in tatters within a year. Trump's victory has secured this fate, as every Republican from Pence to Nikki Haley has sold their soul to survive and thrive in Trump's GOP. His presidency is in free-fall, his support is waning, and the Republicans are paralyzed by Trump's flatulent incompetence. Moderates -- the brains of the GOP -- were chased out of the party or joined with it and now have the taint of Trump on them. While America does have a short memory, they will remember long enough to secure the victory of a centrist Democrat.

The CHUDs that represent Trump's base will go back to their native element (e.g. the sewer) when it becomes apparent to them that the populist wave has crashed. But be patient with them. They are slow and still think they're winning.

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This is just what we need, a return to normalcy. How I would love to have a boring president. We didn't realize how good we had it during the past 40 years - it seems like an unbroken wave of wise and peerless leadership from this vantage point. Reagan, the Bushes, Clinton, Obama. All presidents that make Trump look like a fool. Trump is already the worst president in American history and is just getting worse. The Marines have a saying about themselves - "No better friend, no worse enemy". For Trump, that has to be reversed - "No worse friend, no better enemy". He is a fool, an evil monster.

A day under Trump feels like a decade under a normal president. We are going to be the oldest people in all of history by the end of this.
 
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cawacko said:
Who is a centrist democrat?
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Most Democrats. Hillary was center-right for most of her career, then Bernie pulled her to the left a bit last election. Obama was center-left. Booker is a centrist (though a phony, IMO). Joe Manchin is a conservative Democrat (basically a Republican-lite).
 
Amadeus said:
Most Democrats. Hillary was center-right for most of her career, then Bernie pulled her to the left a bit last election. Obama was center-left. Booker is a centrist (though a phony, IMO). Joe Manchin is a conservative Democrat (basically a Republican-lite).
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And you think the democratic base is going to accept one of those people you just listed?
 
Lets also remember that Trump was never a conservative (also not a liberal). What he did was take a lot of elements that appealed to Republican voters, super-charged it with populism, and simply picked the low-hanging fruit until he had a full basket.
 
cawacko said:
And you think the democratic base is going to accept one of those people you just listed?
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I don't know who the centrist will be, but I predict it will be centrist (probably center-left). I would be very surprised if someone like Bernie gained enough support this time around to run a successful campaign against an equally qualified centrist. Generally speaking, the centrist wins. That's why it was McCain and Obama in 2008, and Romney and Obama in 2012. Both parties prefer centrists. Last year was the perfect storm for a populist, but these are aberrations that rarely occur. The reality is that people like predictability and a steady hand at the helm of the country.

As a liberal who believes that government can be a force for positive change, I would prefer a Bernie type.
 
How will we explain to future generations how good things were before Trump? They will not believe us, that anything could have ever been as beautiful or perfect as that time was. If I am to paraphrase Talleyrand, "He who has not lived in the years before Donald Trump cannot know what the sweetness of living is."
 
Amadeus said:
I was a mild Bernie supporter, and a Hillary critic. That said, if someone like Hillary (but not Hillary) were to run in the next election, they'd clean house. The populist wave has proven to be a short-lived fade and ultimately a disaster for the country and a threat to world order and security. The taste of Trump will leave such a bad taste in America's mouth that Bernie couldn't win (even though he represents positive, constructive populism). I personally think that the Republican party will be in tatters within a year. Trump's victory has secured this fate, as every Republican from Pence to Nikki Haley has sold their soul to survive and thrive in Trump's GOP. His presidency is in free-fall, his support is waning, and the Republicans are paralyzed by Trump's flatulent incompetence. Moderates -- the brains of the GOP -- were chased out of the party or joined with it and now have the taint of Trump on them. While America does have a short memory, they will remember long enough to secure the victory of a centrist Democrat.

The CHUDs that represent Trump's base will go back to their native element (e.g. the sewer) when it becomes apparent to them that the populist wave has crashed. But be patient with them. They are slow and still think they're winning.

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:rofl2: funny, it not so sad..:mad:

Terrorist attack & the petty president of the USA tweeting bull shit about the Mayor of a foriegn country in the midst of the crisis-WTF:mad:
 
the republican party will not be in tatters. they are crushing everything. governorships. state legislators. congress. the supreme court. even if a democrat won an election the republicans are still in a dominant position. You guys need to open your eyes. Republicans almost have enough state power now to literally pass new amendments to the constitution without a democrat having even the slightest say on the matter.
 
SHITBALLS said:
the republican party will not be in tatters. they are crushing everything. governorships. state legislators. congress. the supreme court. even if a democrat won an election the republicans are still in a dominant position. You guys need to open your eyes. Republicans almost have enough state power now to literally pass new amendments to the constitution without a democrat having even the slightest say on the matter.
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All it takes is a couple of election cycles for that all to disappear Grind.
 
SHITBALLS said:
there is this little thing called gerrymandering. think republicans are good until at least the next redraw
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Gerrymandering doesn't mean shit when you're losing by 10 points in the GCB. If the Republicans lose hard enough it turns into a tullymander and they're actually going to lose massive amounts of seats compared to what they would under a system with partisan symmetry.
 
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Amadeus said:
The CHUDs that represent Trump's base will go back to their native element (e.g. the sewer) when it becomes apparent to them that the populist wave has crashed. But be patient with them. They are slow and still think they're winning.
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All the lazy fucks that represent the dumbed-down, loser Obama base will have jobs and be off the dole by then.
 
SHITBALLS said:
the republican party will not be in tatters. they are crushing everything. governorships. state legislators. congress. the supreme court. even if a democrat won an election the republicans are still in a dominant position. You guys need to open your eyes. Republicans almost have enough state power now to literally pass new amendments to the constitution without a democrat having even the slightest say on the matter.
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So why can't they get anything done except through executive orders? They control all three branches of government.
 
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