the minimum wage: reality check

[Taichiliberal]

What has really ticked me off regarding this debate on raising the minimum wage to $15/hr is when some joker says, "why did I bother going to college when I could just flip burgers now?"

Well toodles, for starters if you're lucky enough to get a full time job right out of college based on your college degree, you'll be working 8 hours a week, most likely 9 am 5 pm with an hour off for lunch, some type of basic health insurance, and limited PAID vacation and sick days.

the average fast food worker gets shifts they have to choose from (if they're lucky to have that choice) during the work week which may NOT add up to 40 hours (the shifts are either during the day or night....some franchises have graveyard shifts from dusk to dawn), so they would have to take on extra shifts. Most do NOT get an hour off for lunch, much less a paid hour.... and prior to the enactment of the ACA (Obamacare), many saw NO paid sick or vacation days (still don't) and no health insurance of any kind.

Then there's the little thing of BEING ON YOUR FEET CONSTANTLY DOING REPETITIVE WORK.

So next time the anti $15/hr folk want to raise that old mantra, I suggest they think it through.

Oh, and just to cover all the bases: http://www.raisetheminimumwage.com/pages/job-loss

 

[canceled.2021.1]

Very touching. You really care.

 

[Mircea]

Then there's the little thing of BEING ON YOUR FEET CONSTANTLY DOING REPETITIVE WORK.

If that doesn't motivate people to better themselves to find better paying jobs, then fuck them.

 

[Darth Omar]

This is one of those times I wish liberals were right. It would be nice for kids out of high school to make $15/hour but the unintended consequences would be falling out of the woodwork.

 

[Legion Troll]

This is one of those times I wish liberals were right. It would be nice for kids out of high school to make $15/hour but the unintended consequences would be falling out of the woodwork.

They would?

List them.

I'll understand if you can't.

 

[tsuke]

sweden denmark norway and the other liberal model states dont have national minimum wage. They do it by industry. National minimum wage would be a disaster. Not every state is as economically advanced as Ny or Ca. A lot of the flyover states would not be able to afford a 15$ national minimum wage.

 

[Legion Troll]

sweden denmark norway and the other liberal model states dont have national minimum wage. They do it by industry. National minimum wage would be a disaster. Not every state is as economically advanced as Ny or Ca. A lot of the flyover states would not be able to afford a 15$ national minimum wage.

So?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

the whole entire generation of whiny fucks who think they are entitled to some damned 'living' wage need to grow a pair of balls and bust their ass improving themselves like those of us in our 40s and 50s did. I was digging ditches in 100 degree temps for $6 an hour before I found a good tech job, so can you whiny entitled fucks.

 

[evince]

boy are you cons dumb fucks


Your ideas have failed and failed

quit fucking pretending your stupid works in reality

 

[signalmankenneth]

 

[Callinectes]

Why do people want to make a career out of a summer job I had in 1973 to save up for a POS motorcycle? If you're "ON YOUR FEET CONSTANTLY DOING REPETITIVE WORK" for the minimum wage at the age of 30+, you've failed. And that's not a bad thing, BTW. It frequently motivates people.

 

[Darth Omar]

They would?

List them.

I'll understand if you can't.

Less jobs because many employers can't afford to pay that kind of wage.

You've never ran a business, have you, lol.

So, I understand why you don't know.

 

[tsuke]

https://tsukesthoughts.wordpress.com/2016/04/24/the-trump-effectwages/

i explain here why setting up the conditions for wage to increase is better than legislating a wage increase and then setting up conditions for a wage decrease (increasing # of labor and decreasing number of jobs)

 

[Legion Troll]

Less jobs because many employers can't afford to pay that kind of wage. You've never ran a business, have you, lol. So, I understand why you don't know.

You never run anything except your mouth, do you, lol?

McDonald's CEO raised wages and guess what happened?

 

[Legion Troll]

Why do people want to make a career out of a summer job I had in 1973 to save up for a POS motorcycle? If you're "ON YOUR FEET CONSTANTLY DOING REPETITIVE WORK" for the minimum wage at the age of 30+, you've failed. And that's not a bad thing, BTW. It frequently motivates people.

Wow, you're old.

Please post your evidence that low wages frequently motivate people.

Thanks!

 

[Phantasmal]

the whole entire generation of whiny fucks who think they are entitled to some damned 'living' wage need to grow a pair of balls and bust their ass improving themselves like those of us in our 40s and 50s did. I was digging ditches in 100 degree temps for $6 an hour before I found a good tech job, so can you whiny entitled fucks.

That was good money back then. I earned $5 an hour where I worked in 1973, that was damn good money, then! The minimum wage was $1.60 an hour.

 

[anatta]

sweden denmark norway and the other liberal model states dont have national minimum wage. They do it by industry. National minimum wage would be a disaster. Not every state is as economically advanced as Ny or Ca. A lot of the flyover states would not be able to afford a 15$ national minimum wage.

interesting concept.. I think we look at it more a "living wage=minimum wage

 

[Legion Troll]

I was digging ditches in 100 degree temps for $6 an hour before I found a good tech job.

And then you got kicked out of the Corps?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

And then you got kicked out of the Corps?

don't get all pissy, troll. deal with the OP and his load of horseshit.

 

[Callinectes]

Wow, you're old.

Please post your evidence that low wages frequently motivate people.

Thanks!

Yes, I am old. "Beware the old man in a land where men die young", "old age and treachery will always triumph over youth and skill", I got a million of them.
The only "evidence" I have that low wages(and crappy working conditions)frequently motivate people, is my memories of bussing tables and washing dishes in a restaurant, and knowing for a fact that I didn't want to be doing that a month later, much less the rest of my life. That and logic, of course. Not real scientific, deal with it.

But I suppose you have compiled mountains of evidence that high school students considering careers are thinking, "gee, do I want to flip burgers, or be an astronaut? Both careers are intellectually stimulating, and a chance to be of service to my fellow man. Screw the money!"
Please post your evidence of that, I'd really like to see it.
Thanks!