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October 28, 2022

BY EVE OTTENBERG

Tens of thousands protested against the skyrocketing cost of living and against Macron in France October 16, led by left-wing politician Jean Luc Melenchon, but there were few front page or top-of-the hour headlines in the U.S. Huge protests occurred in Rome the same day to demand an end to Italy’s involvement in NATO, but no coverage on the west side of the Atlantic. Thousands protesting in Paris October 22 against NATO, but little notice in North America. Massive protests against NATO and inflation due to sanctions on Russian energy in France, Germany and Austria in September, but little news of it here in the heart of the empire. German police beat citizens protesting energy shortages and record-high inflation, both due to Russia sanctions, the week of October 17, but that was not covered in the USA. Seventy thousand Czechs protested in Prague September 3 against NATO involvement in Ukraine, demanding gas from Russia (before some mysterious imperial somebody with means and motive blew up Nordstream 1 and 2, probably to nip the political effects of those protests in the bud) and ending the war, but that got little coverage in U.S. corporate media.

Ever get the sense there are things our media hides from us? Hmm. Ever wonder why enormous protests against the policies of the Exceptional Empire and its attack dog, NATO, seem, um, to be downplayed? Ever think our corporate news outlets behave more like the propaganda arm of our neoconservative state department and military than a free press? Well, if so, you may be onto something.

Lots of Europeans are unhappy about NATO, the Ukraine war, sanctions on Russia and the wild inflation and deindustrialization – which will result in gargantuan unemployment – those sanctions caused. As their living standards sink like stones, Europeans know who is to blame, namely their supposedly great ally across the Atlantic, and many have soured on their so-called alliance with the hegemon. But Washington doesn’t seem to care. Let the Europeans go broke and protest. The important thing is not reporting this news to the American people, who, if they heard about it, might get a subversive inkling that their government had not behaved in an entirely honorable manner.

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The full article is on counterpunch, I don't have enough posts to put the link in yet, but typing "counterpunch military industrial complex" without the quotes on duckduckgo put the article at the top of the search results list for me.
 
Our media lies to us constantly - not just about wars or our occupation of 120+ nations, but about social issues as well

Take the abortion issue - America was an outlier. Germany and most civilized nations would not allow the same late term abortions we do. Yet the media makes it sound like we are violating rights that exist elsewhere.

They allow the democrats to lie and say the Right has moved way too far - but the left is who changed on this issue. Biden was not in favor of Row decision when it was first decided - many on the left were not. they changed in an extreme way, not the right.

Obama won on his antiwar rhetoric, but he never stopped drone strikes, he used all the political capital to usher in health care changes, which were madly unpopular, even as the media continues to lie to us about it
 
Our media lies to us constantly - not just about wars or our occupation of 120+ nations, but about social issues as well

Take the abortion issue - America was an outlier. Germany and most civilized nations would not allow the same late term abortions we do. Yet the media makes it sound like we are violating rights that exist elsewhere.

They allow the democrats to lie and say the Right has moved way too far - but the left is who changed on this issue. Biden was not in favor of Row decision when it was first decided - many on the left were not. they changed in an extreme way, not the right.

Obama won on his antiwar rhetoric, but he never stopped drone strikes, he used all the political capital to usher in health care changes, which were madly unpopular, even as the media continues to lie to us about it

Thanks for your response zymurgy :-). I agree with you on some things, don't agree with you on others. I agree regarding the mainstream media lying constantly and I think you're saying that you believe that the U.S. military is in far too many places, which I'd agree with.

When it comes to abortion, I'd say it's complicated in regards to abortion access. Now that Roe vs. Wade has been overturned, some states have banned abortion outright, while others haven't. I'm personally pro choice.

In regards to drone strikes, I'll take your word for it, although I will say that to Obama's credit, he never supplied Ukraine with weapons. That changed in the Trump Administration. To be fair, it looks like he was pressured into it. I'd link to an article on that, but can't do that yet.

As to Obama's health care plan, even he admitted his health care plan could use improvement, but I think he was on the right track.
 
Thought this article was interesting...

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October 28, 2022

BY EVE OTTENBERG

Tens of thousands protested against the skyrocketing cost of living and against Macron in France October 16, led by left-wing politician Jean Luc Melenchon, but there were few front page or top-of-the hour headlines in the U.S. Huge protests occurred in Rome the same day to demand an end to Italy’s involvement in NATO, but no coverage on the west side of the Atlantic. Thousands protesting in Paris October 22 against NATO, but little notice in North America. Massive protests against NATO and inflation due to sanctions on Russian energy in France, Germany and Austria in September, but little news of it here in the heart of the empire. German police beat citizens protesting energy shortages and record-high inflation, both due to Russia sanctions, the week of October 17, but that was not covered in the USA. Seventy thousand Czechs protested in Prague September 3 against NATO involvement in Ukraine, demanding gas from Russia (before some mysterious imperial somebody with means and motive blew up Nordstream 1 and 2, probably to nip the political effects of those protests in the bud) and ending the war, but that got little coverage in U.S. corporate media.

Ever get the sense there are things our media hides from us? Hmm. Ever wonder why enormous protests against the policies of the Exceptional Empire and its attack dog, NATO, seem, um, to be downplayed? Ever think our corporate news outlets behave more like the propaganda arm of our neoconservative state department and military than a free press? Well, if so, you may be onto something.

Lots of Europeans are unhappy about NATO, the Ukraine war, sanctions on Russia and the wild inflation and deindustrialization – which will result in gargantuan unemployment – those sanctions caused. As their living standards sink like stones, Europeans know who is to blame, namely their supposedly great ally across the Atlantic, and many have soured on their so-called alliance with the hegemon. But Washington doesn’t seem to care. Let the Europeans go broke and protest. The important thing is not reporting this news to the American people, who, if they heard about it, might get a subversive inkling that their government had not behaved in an entirely honorable manner.

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The full article is on counterpunch, I don't have enough posts to put the link in yet, but typing "counterpunch military industrial complex" without the quotes on duckduckgo put the article at the top of the search results list for me.

That God for Pacifica Radio, WBAI 99.5FM in New York. I've Swedish friends who have expressed less than appreciation of NATO's actions for years.
 
Thousands protesting in Paris October 22 against NATO, but little notice in North America. Massive protests against NATO and inflation due to sanctions on Russian energy in France, Germany and Austria in September, but little news of it here in the heart of the empire. German police beat citizens protesting energy shortages and record-high inflation, both due to Russia sanctions, the week of October 17, but that was not covered in the USA. Seventy thousand Czechs protested in Prague September 3 against NATO involvement in Ukraine, demanding gas from Russia (before some mysterious imperial somebody with means and motive blew up Nordstream 1 and 2, probably to nip the political effects of those protests in the bud) and ending the war, but that got little coverage in U.S. corporate media.

Ever get the sense there are things our media hides from us? Hmm. Ever wonder why enormous protests against the policies of the Exceptional Empire and its attack dog, NATO, seem, um, to be downplayed? Ever think our corporate news outlets behave more like the propaganda arm of our neoconservative state department and military than a free press? Well, if so, you may be onto something.
shut up and pin on your Ukrainian lapel pin. send another 10 billion or whatever this week.
Be a good boy and dont rock the boat. the neocons never left -they just moved into the Democratic party
 
Thought this article was interesting...

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October 28, 2022

BY EVE OTTENBERG

Tens of thousands protested against the skyrocketing cost of living and against Macron in France October 16, led by left-wing politician Jean Luc Melenchon, but there were few front page or top-of-the hour headlines in the U.S. Huge protests occurred in Rome the same day to demand an end to Italy’s involvement in NATO, but no coverage on the west side of the Atlantic. Thousands protesting in Paris October 22 against NATO, but little notice in North America. Massive protests against NATO and inflation due to sanctions on Russian energy in France, Germany and Austria in September, but little news of it here in the heart of the empire. German police beat citizens protesting energy shortages and record-high inflation, both due to Russia sanctions, the week of October 17, but that was not covered in the USA. Seventy thousand Czechs protested in Prague September 3 against NATO involvement in Ukraine, demanding gas from Russia (before some mysterious imperial somebody with means and motive blew up Nordstream 1 and 2, probably to nip the political effects of those protests in the bud) and ending the war, but that got little coverage in U.S. corporate media.

Ever get the sense there are things our media hides from us? Hmm. Ever wonder why enormous protests against the policies of the Exceptional Empire and its attack dog, NATO, seem, um, to be downplayed? Ever think our corporate news outlets behave more like the propaganda arm of our neoconservative state department and military than a free press? Well, if so, you may be onto something.

Lots of Europeans are unhappy about NATO, the Ukraine war, sanctions on Russia and the wild inflation and deindustrialization – which will result in gargantuan unemployment – those sanctions caused. As their living standards sink like stones, Europeans know who is to blame, namely their supposedly great ally across the Atlantic, and many have soured on their so-called alliance with the hegemon. But Washington doesn’t seem to care. Let the Europeans go broke and protest. The important thing is not reporting this news to the American people, who, if they heard about it, might get a subversive inkling that their government had not behaved in an entirely honorable manner.

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The full article is on counterpunch, I don't have enough posts to put the link in yet, but typing "counterpunch military industrial complex" without the quotes on duckduckgo put the article at the top of the search results list for me.

Here you go.

The Military-Industrial Media Complex Strikes Again
 
shut up and pin on your Ukrainian lapel pin. send another 10 billion or whatever this week.
Be a good boy and dont rock the boat. the neocons never left -they just moved into the Democratic party

She's on your side, dumbass.
 
When it comes to abortion, I'd say it's complicated in regards to abortion access. Now that Roe vs. Wade has been overturned, some states have banned abortion outright, while others haven't. I'm personally pro choice.

Yes, it is very complicated and nuanced. Which is another reason getting rid of a single universal rule that applies to all people in such a huge country made sense.
 
Yes, it is very complicated and nuanced. Which is another reason getting rid of a single universal rule that applies to all people in such a huge country made sense.

I agree that the issue is complicated, but I think the universal rule was a good one, if focusing on the wrong issues, and perhaps put in place too quickly. I think we can agree that this subject has nothing to do with the subject of this thread, so I've created a new thread with this subject and have responded to you in full over there:

What Ruth Bader Ginsburg really said about Roe v. Wade | The Washington Post
 
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