The GOP Jobs Plan...

[Onceler]

i didn't lie, you made him out to be a hero, and it wasn't just your announcement, i never claimed that.

what is hilarious is that you haven't once actually discussed anything substantive regarding the thread. you came in solely attacking me, you called DY a troll for doing this. good job on admitting you're a troll, using your logic.

LOL

Okey, dokey. Just know that this one won't go away for awhile.

 

[Bonestorm]

neither is your response. next

OK. I'm not going to get into an game of "I asked you first." Obama has a bill that was scored by the CBO and assessed by independent analysts. The GOP does not.

the specifics are not identical. care to cite something to back up your assertion? saying it was a major reagan initiative does not prove it has been a gop policy for 30 years. and i said national debt, not cutting spending. but if you want to put words in my mouth, then you're still wrong. pubs have not been that concerned with national debt or spending reduction for the past 30 years, only someone with half a brain can see that. just look at the 2006 and 2008 election results. the right was fed up with the gop and spending.

Look, if you want to pretend that the GOP is presenting fresh, new ideas to deal with a particularly unique problem of persistent unemployment by recycling the same old policies they have championed for 30 years, be my guest.

 

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vid St. Hubbins;892694]OK. I'm not going to get into an game of "I asked you first." Obama has a bill that was scored by the CBO and assessed by independent analysts. The GOP does not.

i was talking about his plans, not his bill. get a grip apologist.

Look, if you want to pretend that the GOP is presenting fresh, new ideas to deal with a particularly unique problem of persistent unemployment by recycling the same old policies they have championed for 30 years, be my guest.

you're the one pretending they are the same. you can't even give one cite to back up your claim. that is all i needed to know, thanks.

 

[Bonestorm]

i was talking about his plans, not his bill. get a grip apologist.

I was talking about bills. Plans have no chance of becoming law until they are presented as bills.

you're the one pretending they are the same. you can't even give one cite to back up your claim. that is all i needed to know, thanks.

I am the one pretending that eliminating regulations, cutting taxes and cutting spending are the same as the GOP policies to eliminate regulations, cut taxes and cut spending that they promoted for decades.

The below is excerpted from the 1980 Republican Party Platform:

Republicans are committed to an economic policy based on lower tax rates and a reduced rate of government spending.

Therefore, the Republican Party pledges to:

Reduce tax rates on individuals and businesses to increase incentives for all Americans and to encourage more savings, investment, output and productivity, and more jobs for Americans;

Provide special incentives for saving by lowering the tax rates on savings and investment income;

Revitalize our productive capacities by simplifying and accelerating tax depreciation schedules for facilities, structures, equipment, and vehicles;

Limit government spending to a fixed and smaller percentage of the Gross National Product; and

Balance the budget without tax increases at these lower levels of taxation and spending

As is this:

We will reform the patent laws to facilitate innovation and we will further this goal by encouraging a greater share of federal research and development be done by small businesses. Finally, we will reform those tax laws which make it more profitable to break up a small business or merge it into a conglomerate than to allow it to grow and develop as an independent business.

As is this:

The Republican Party pledges itself to a comprehensive program of government reform. We propose to enact a temporary moratorium on all new federal regulations that diminish the supply of goods and services and add significantly to inflation. Such a moratorium will be consistent with the goal of achieving a safe and healthy working environment. We shall work to reduce substantially the regulatory and paperwork burdens on small businesses.

Again, if you want to argue that what the Republicans are proposing are fresh new ideas that they have championed for decades under any economic circumstances, you can feel free to do so.

 

[Rune]

patent problem: good idea, but this is not really a drain on the economy and is more fluff than action. frivolous lawsuits are already not allowed, i'm not sure what their solution is to decrease frivolous lawsuits.

trade problem: seems the gop and obama agree.

fix tax code: great idea

visa problem: as far as i know, this is not really a problem. getting visa's for skilled labor is easy and companies do this all the time.

fda: yes, this needs to be more efficient, not sure their plan will really fix this though.

rising energy costs: it is hilarious how when gas was this high under bush, the dems blamed bush. but now, obama gets a pass.

reduce national debt: not specific enough, obama could say the thing, or i think he already has, in fact any politician could say this.

good ideas, but would be nice to see more specifics, especially since they produced a "full" plan. they bashed obama for producing similar plans, and yet now are producing the same type of plan.

Thanks. You say the same thing I did, you just use a lot more words.

 

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Thanks. You say the same thing I did, you just use a lot more words.

you mean, i actually debated the issue. if i said the thing you did, then your post is not accurate and is in fact a knee jerk response as i said.

 

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avid St. Hubbins;892709]I was talking about bills. Plans have no chance of becoming law until they are presented as bills.




I am the one pretending that eliminating regulations, cutting taxes and cutting spending are the same as the GOP policies to eliminate regulations, cut taxes and cut spending that they promoted for decades.

The below is excerpted from the 1980 Republican Party Platform:

nothing about reducing the deficit....

As is this:

nothing about frivolous lawsuits....

As is this:

nothing about the FDA

Again, if you want to argue that what the Republicans are proposing are fresh new ideas that they have championed for decades under any economic circumstances, you can feel free to do so.

you make it too easy

 

[Damocles]

A question and a challenge:

(1) Where's the bill?

(2) Name one thing in this "jobs plan" that isn't your standard fare Republican policy for the last three decades.

1. They list 16 bills that have passed the house that are languishing in the Senate.

2.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

Hey - Yurt loves it....shocker!

That's not what I got from his post. He seemed pretty critical of it actually.

 

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1. They list 16 bills that have passed the house that are languishing in the Senate.

2.

Sorry, but it only counts if Dung says it does. You must abide by Dung's warped partisan views or you are automatically wrong. you see he doesn't want a bunch of separate bills, he wants one big conglomerate of the bills presented to the CBO and scored by the CBO. No dealing with issues one at a time. You must have a minimum of 2000 pages for the bill to qualify.

 

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That's not what I got from his post. He seemed pretty critical of it actually.

yep, then again, it is onceler

 

[Onceler]

yep, then again, it is onceler

LOL - please. If I wrote the same thing about Dems, you'd say I was making them out to be superheroes - titans of gov't & champions of the people, beyond reproach.

 

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LOL - please. If I wrote the same thing about Dems, you'd say I was making them out to be superheroes - titans of gov't & champions of the people, beyond reproach.

why do you lie so much? fact is, you lied about what i wrote. everyone else can see that what you said is simply not true. but we all know you will never own up to it.

 

[Onceler]

why do you lie so much? fact is, you lied about what i wrote. everyone else can see that what you said is simply not true. but we all know you will never own up to it.

Well, what about what you didn't write about the GOP?

LOL

Another rough day for ya, Yurtsie...

 

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Well, what about what you didn't write about the GOP?

LOL

Another rough day for ya, Yurtsie...

false analogy. you claimed i loved the plan. yet i addressed everything in the OP and was critical of the plan. seriously, why do you lie so often? even when others point out your dishonesty, you double down.