That's not how it works': the bull shitter's grasp of Nato questioned

Bill

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On the heels of a visibly awkward visit from the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, Donald Trump said on Saturday that Germany owed “vast sums of money” to Nato and the US, even though the alliance does not stipulate payments to America.
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His remarks prompted a former US permanent representative to Nato to reply “that’s not how Nato works”, and to add that increased European spending on defense was not a “favor (or payment) to the US”.

Trump, who was at his Mar-a-Lago estate for the weekend and spending the morning at Trump International Golf Course, sent two tweets early in the day. The first denounced “the FAKE NEWS” for what he said was mistaken coverage of a “GREAT” meeting with Merkel.

Trump’s public appearances with Merkel betrayed an awkwardness between the two leaders, including during two widely remarked upon appearances in the White House. In one, the leaders failed to stage a handshake for cameras in the Oval Office, and in another Merkel looked baffled by comments made by Trump during a joint press conference. Before the visit Trump had repeatedly called Merkel’s policies “insane” and a “disaster” for Germany.
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Trump’s second tweet accused Germany directly of not paying enough to the security alliance.

In a joint press conference on Friday, Trump expressed “strong support” for Nato but reiterated his belief that member nations do not contribute a “fair share”.

“Many nations owe vast sums of money from past years and it is very unfair to the United States,” he said. “These nations must pay what they owe.”

He added: “During our meeting, I thanked Chancellor Merkel for the German government’s commitment to increase defense spending and work toward contributing at least 2% of GDP.”

Trump’s tweets on Saturday suggested a misunderstanding of the way Nato is funded. According to Nato’s official guidelines, member nations are expected to spend at least 2% of their country’s gross domestic product (GDP) on defense. However, only a handful of the 28 members actually meet that target.

At a 2014 summit in Wales, members pledged to increase their military spending to 2% of GDP by 2024, a goal some have said is unachievable and unrealistic for several member states.

Ultimately, members’ contributions are based on each nation’s capability. Therefore, Nato member nations do not “owe” or have to compensate any other country.

On Saturday Ivo Daalder, who was permanent representative to Nato from 2009 to 2013, respond to Trump in a series of tweets.

“Sorry, Mr President, that’s not how Nato works,” he wrote. “The US decides for itself how much it contributes to defending Nato. This is not a financial transaction, where Nato countries pay the US to defend them. It is part of our treaty commitment.

“All Nato countries, including Germany, have committed to spend 2% of GDP on defense by 2024. So far five of 28 Nato countries do. Those who currently don’t spend 2% of their GDP on defense are now increasing their defense budgets. That’s a good thing.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/18/trump-merkel-nato-germany-owe-money-tweet
 
Drumpf's fanboys are trying to spin this as a success, and demonstration of Drumpf's diplomatic "prowess".
School boy infatuation can make people see things that aren't really there.

I think this sentence from your article sums up what the rest of the world saw:

"On the heels of a visibly awkward visit from the German chancellor, Angela Merkel...."


I think I can honestly say this is the first time in my life I have been truly embarrassed, and occasionally alarmed, but the antics of an American president, namely our Orange Clown.

For the most part, I didn't even really expect George Dumbya or Poppy Bush to flat out embarrass us in routine diplomatic duties. (Although, Poppy puking on the Japanese prime minister's lap will forever be a comedy classic!)
 
“Sorry, Mr President, that’s not how Nato works,” he wrote. “The US decides for itself how much it contributes to defending Nato. This is not a financial transaction, where Nato countries pay the US to defend them. It is part of our treaty commitment.
well the US doesn't "decide" -but what happens in actuality is the US contributes enough to fund NATO when other members do not cover their share. I think we do the same with the UN.

Maybe we should stop expanding NATO to countries like Montenegro that cannot pay their way? *oh nos! not that!* :rolleyes:
 
well the US doesn't "decide" -but what happens in actuality is the US contributes enough to fund NATO when other members do not cover their share. I think we do the same with the UN.

Maybe we should stop expanding NATO to countries like Montenegro that cannot pay their way? *oh nos! not that!* :rolleyes:
There is a guideline figure of 2% of GDP. Currently only 5 out of 28 do so.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/nato-share-breakdown-country-2017-2

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To piss off snowflakes, bottom feeders and racists
 
What liberals want.

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There is a guideline figure of 2% of GDP. Currently only 5 out of 28 do so.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/nato-share-breakdown-country-2017-2
We're always good for picking up the cheque.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-lions-share-for-nato/?utm_term=.d55f7c61de3d
Trump’s claim that the U.S. pays the ‘lion’s share’ for NATO

this metric, Trump’s claims of the U.S. paying a disproportionate share, or “a lion’s share,” are wildly exaggerated. The U.S. pays the most, but not significantly more than the next country — and the formula for calculating the different shares is reasonable.

On the other hand, if Trump is talking about indirect spending on NATO, which exceeds direct funding, he begins to have a point. U.S. officials have long complained that other NATO members are not pulling their weight in the alliance; President Obama recently asserted to Atlantic Monthly’s Jeffrey Goldberg that some European allies are “free riders,” a term that Trump echoed in his CNN interview.

NATO documents show that a majority of NATO members fail to meet NATO’s guideline, established in 2006, that defense expenditures should amount to 2 percent of each country’s gross domestic product. The median spending in 2015 is just 1.18 percent of GDP, compared to 3.7 percent for the United States, NATO says. Just four other countries currently exceed the 2 percent guideline.

“The volume of the US defense expenditure effectively represents 73 per cent of the defense spending of the Alliance as a whole,” NATO says in a discussion of indirect funding. “This does not mean that the United States covers 73 per cent of the costs involved in the operational running of NATO as an organization, including its headquarters in Brussels and its subordinate military commands,
 
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