Texans push for constitutional carry

https://texasscorecard.com/state/texans-aim-for-constitutional-carry-in-committee-hearing/



Gun rights activists showed up en masse to the Texas Capitol on Thursday to testify in favor of constitutional carry, a perennial priority for Texas Republicans.

In a marathon hearing that lasted until Friday morning, the Texas House Homeland Security Committee met, in part, to discuss constitutional carry bills that would allow citizens to possess firearms without permits from the state.

Four bills were considered by the committee: House Bill 1238 by State Rep. Kyle Biedermann (R–Fredericksburg), House Bill 1911 by State Rep. James White (R–Hillister), House Bill 1927 by State Rep. Matt Schaefer (R–Tyler), and House Bill 2900 by State Rep. Cole Hefner (R–Mt. Pleasant).

This was the first time since 2015 that there has been a constitutional carry bill filed in both the House and Senate and only the second time in Texas history it has been given a committee hearing.

The Republican Party of Texas and gun owners across Texas have been advocating constitutional carry for more than a decade, but efforts to eliminate the need for a state gun permit have consistently failed to pass in the Texas Capitol.

Meanwhile, 32 other states have some form of permitless carry. Many individuals who came to testify in support of constitutional carry pointed out that other states have already passed constitutional carry, including left-leaning blue states such as Maine, New Hampshire, and Vermont.

“I can tell you from going across Texas … if you go to grassroots groups and conservative groups, every one of them wants constitutional carry,” said Wes Virdell, who drove from Brady (two hours west of Austin) to testify.

“We shouldn’t have to ask for permission to carry a firearm. If we’re legally allowed to carry it, it’s not the government’s right to delegate if we can or not. Because that’s a privilege at that point, instead of a right,” he told Texas Scorecard.

Representatives from Young Americans for Liberty, Gun Owners of America, and Texas Gun Rights also showed up to push for the legislation.

Texas Republican Chairman Allen West also submitted written testimony of his own in support of two of the constitutional carry bills.

“Our Constitution is our rule of law, and the first ten amendments of that venerable document contain our Bill of Rights,” said West. “Those First Amendment rights, such as freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom to assemble, and the right to petition the government for redress of grievance, do not come with any requirement to obtain a permit.”
 
I have mixed feelings about this. I like the state weeding out some people who should not be carring. But I see carrying a weapon to defend yourself as a right not a privilege As it is virtually everyone in Texas has a right to carry a gun in their car now.
 
https://texasscorecard.com/state/texans-aim-for-constitutional-carry-in-committee-hearing/



Gun rights activists showed up en masse to the Texas Capitol on Thursday to testify in favor of constitutional carry, a perennial priority for Texas Republicans.

In a marathon hearing that lasted until Friday morning, the Texas House Homeland Security Committee met, in part, to discuss constitutional carry bills that would allow citizens to possess firearms without permits from the state.

Four bills were considered by the committee: House Bill 1238 by State Rep. Kyle Biedermann (R–Fredericksburg), House Bill 1911 by State Rep. James White (R–Hillister), House Bill 1927 by State Rep. Matt Schaefer (R–Tyler), and House Bill 2900 by State Rep. Cole Hefner (R–Mt. Pleasant).

This was the first time since 2015 that there has been a constitutional carry bill filed in both the House and Senate and only the second time in Texas history it has been given a committee hearing.

The Republican Party of Texas and gun owners across Texas have been advocating constitutional carry for more than a decade, but efforts to eliminate the need for a state gun permit have consistently failed to pass in the Texas Capitol.

Meanwhile, 32 other states have some form of permitless carry. Many individuals who came to testify in support of constitutional carry pointed out that other states have already passed constitutional carry, including left-leaning blue states such as Maine, New Hampshire, and Vermont.

“I can tell you from going across Texas … if you go to grassroots groups and conservative groups, every one of them wants constitutional carry,” said Wes Virdell, who drove from Brady (two hours west of Austin) to testify.

“We shouldn’t have to ask for permission to carry a firearm. If we’re legally allowed to carry it, it’s not the government’s right to delegate if we can or not. Because that’s a privilege at that point, instead of a right,” he told Texas Scorecard.

Representatives from Young Americans for Liberty, Gun Owners of America, and Texas Gun Rights also showed up to push for the legislation.

Texas Republican Chairman Allen West also submitted written testimony of his own in support of two of the constitutional carry bills.

“Our Constitution is our rule of law, and the first ten amendments of that venerable document contain our Bill of Rights,” said West. “Those First Amendment rights, such as freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom to assemble, and the right to petition the government for redress of grievance, do not come with any requirement to obtain a permit.”

Well I always think about this in terms of what people would say if this applied to other rights like, let's say abortion. What if we required people to get a permit with the state before they got an abortion? People in favor want no restrictions on accessing abortions why should there be any to exercise your right to own a gun?
 
Mixed feelings on this, and I have a concealed carry license here in Texas. What it does is make it ok for criminals (if they have no felonies) to carry a firearm without the worry that if pulled over and caught with it that they will be arrested. At the same time I do believe it is ones right to be able to defend themselves and why I got my carry license to begin with, though many people really should not be carrying a firearm, and I have seen ample proof of that at ranges.
 
Mixed feelings on this, and I have a concealed carry license here in Texas. What it does is make it ok for criminals (if they have no felonies) to carry a firearm without the worry that if pulled over and caught with it that they will be arrested. At the same time I do believe it is ones right to be able to defend themselves and why I got my carry license to begin with, though many people really should not be carrying a firearm, and I have seen ample proof of that at ranges.

I have only two issues with what you present here. texas law stipulates that nobody needs a license to carry in their vehicle, so if they are pulled over, having a gun is not illegal. If, however, the drivers name is run and comes back as a currently prohibited person, then they are caught as the law allows. secondly, criminals don't fear the law, so they are going to carry anyway. As a 'right', it should be incumbent upon those choosing to exercise that right to train themselves. those that dont can be held reponsible for their irresponsibility.
 
So after a winter storm crippled the entire state of Texas for almost two weeks, killing over 100 people, 29M without power, fossil fuels frozen in transit, all while in the midst of the worst pandemic in 100 years, Texas decides its priority is....guns.

Abbott is so fucking toast next year if Beto runs...
 
So after a winter storm crippled the entire state of Texas for almost two weeks, killing over 100 people, 29M without power, fossil fuels frozen in transit, all while in the midst of the worst pandemic in 100 years, Texas decides its priority is....guns.

Abbott is so fucking toast next year if Beto runs...
Beto does not have a chance in the world in Texas. :laugh: And 29 million people were not without power. My brother never lost power nor did my niece.
 
Everybody worries about the 2nd Amendment, but the 10th is totally fucking up the country, even worse than the founders did in the original, pre-amended articles.

If Red states want to live with standards that are unacceptable to Blue states, break up the fucking union and let compatible states form new nations.

We're out of control now. The current state of the republic is intolerable to everyone with a clue for what the fuck is going on.
To the clueless, they should leave voting to the grownups.

Look at Georgia. The minority racist element is controlling the state, and the racist Republicans are dependent on laws enforced nationally--under the guise of the fucking constitution--to implement the suppression.
Kick their sorry asses out of the republic, and the crackers wills have to face the angry majority on their own. Good luck with that.
 
This 100%

I seem to remember the same people telling us that Biden, Warnock, and Ossoff had no chance in Georgia.

In fact, y'all were saying that all the way up until 1/5, when Warnock and Ossoff swept their races.

I'm old enough to remember y'all said Biden had no chance here.

Guess you were wrong again.
 
Texas ain't Georgia son.

Yeah, and prior to Nov 2020, we heard GA ain't VA, but that didn't quite work out for you either.

And prior to 2008, we heard Virginia ain't (insert formerly red state here), and Colorado ain't (insert formerly red state here).

Every single prediction y'all have made has turned out to be wrong, so by all means, have that overconfidence...it's hilarious watching you move the bar afterwards...
 
Everybody worries about the 2nd Amendment, but the 10th is totally fucking up the country, even worse than the founders did in the original, pre-amended articles.

If Red states want to live with standards that are unacceptable to Blue states, break up the fucking union and let compatible states form new nations.

We're out of control now. The current state of the republic is intolerable to everyone with a clue for what the fuck is going on.
To the clueless, they should leave voting to the grownups.

Look at Georgia. The minority racist element is controlling the state, and the racist Republicans are dependent on laws enforced nationally--under the guise of the fucking constitution--to implement the suppression.
Kick their sorry asses out of the republic, and the crackers wills have to face the angry majority on their own. Good luck with that.
Bigot.
 

Do I look down with contempt on crackers, rednecks, shitkickers, and trumpanzees?

I am a coastal, progressive liberal white person with a private school education and a cosmopolitan world view.

I sure hope the hell that I do.
It's not for no reason, however.
It's because their very existence seems to be to fuck up the country.
 
I have only two issues with what you present here. texas law stipulates that nobody needs a license to carry in their vehicle, so if they are pulled over, having a gun is not illegal. If, however, the drivers name is run and comes back as a currently prohibited person, then they are caught as the law allows. secondly, criminals don't fear the law, so they are going to carry anyway. As a 'right', it should be incumbent upon those choosing to exercise that right to train themselves. those that dont can be held reponsible for their irresponsibility.

DO you think everyone carrying a gun, or would like to carry a gun, are all responsible people, trained in firearm safety?

NO! So, it is OK with you to allow people to carry guns that may be criminal, dangerous, or mentally ill?

YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS!

Either you care about PUBLIC safety or you don't!
 
So after a winter storm crippled the entire state of Texas for almost two weeks, killing over 100 people, 29M without power, fossil fuels frozen in transit, all while in the midst of the worst pandemic in 100 years, Texas decides its priority is....guns.

Abbott is so fucking toast next year if Beto runs...

I hope Abbott does lose, and there are several Dems that might be able to get the job done. Beto is not one, his stand on firearms is a death sentence here in Texas and he should have known better than to say what he did, he may be able to win an election for another office, but Governor of Texas is not one he can win, trust me on this.
 
Do I look down with contempt on crackers, rednecks, shitkickers, and trumpanzees?

I am a coastal, progressive liberal white person with a private school education and a cosmopolitan world view.

I sure hope the hell that I do.
It's not for no reason, however.
It's because their very existence seems to be to fuck up the country.

I look down on those people too because they're performance artists.

None of them are truly rugged individualists, they just cosplay as them.

The fact is that most of them are welfare dependent leeches who get far more back in state and federal spending than they ever contributed.
 
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