So remember when I said Trump will try to cancel the election and Flash disagreed?

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LV426

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Well....

Drumpf floats delaying election despite lack of authority to do so
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/30/politics/trump-delay-election-no-authority/index.html

And before anyone says he can't do that, remember that he couldn't also extort Ukraine for political gain, couldn't kidnap children and lock them in cages (or worse), couldn't send unmarked and unidentified "federal agents" to kidnap people off the street, and couldn't let key bureaucratic positions go unstaffed.
 
LV426 said:
Well....

Drumpf floats delaying election despite lack of authority to do so
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/30/politics/trump-delay-election-no-authority/index.html

And before anyone says he can't do that, remember that he couldn't also extort Ukraine for political gain, couldn't kidnap children and lock them in cages (or worse), couldn't send unmarked and unidentified "federal agents" to kidnap people off the street, and couldn't let key bureaucratic positions go unstaffed.
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Right. Amazing how "but he can't do that" has been refuted over and over by Trump. Yes he can.
 
floridafan said:
Not yet, but Trump will definitely try.
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Certainly floating the idea now, Rush, Laura, Bill, Sean, Tucker and the other demagogues will pick it up from here, in a weeks time you will see individuals as “earl” above presenting it as needed, and accusing anyone who opposes it as still mad cause Hillary lost in 2016
 
Probably one of the greatest issues of public corruption/totalitarianism of the modern era, slides to the bottom of the the page.

Have we really become this inured to outrageous behavior?
 
We held elections during the Civil War, WW1, WW2, the Spanish Flu epidemic. The elections are held every 2 years on the first Tuesday after 1st Monday in November.. It is just that easy. They go from Nov. 2nd to Nov. 8. Trump's reason is he will get his ass kicked.
 
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Donald Trump suggested on Thursday that the November election should be delayed. Can he do that?
No. The president cannot act on his own to move the date of the election. The constitution gives state legislatures and Congress the ability to set the dates of elections. It does not give the president any power to do so.

Article 2 of the US constitution, which outlines the powers of the executive branch, specifically gives Congress the power to set the “time” when states choose their presidential electors. In 1845, Congress set the day for choosing presidential electors as Tuesday following the first Monday in November in a presidential election year. Congress could move the date of the election by changing the law, but the president could not unilaterally do so.

The 20th amendment also says that the four-year term of the president and vice-president ends on 20 January. It also calls for the terms of members of Congress to begin on 3 January.

“If there is no new president-elect (or V-P-elect), then the Twentieth Amendment calls for an Acting President on noon on January 20, with Congress having written a statute that would put the Speaker next in line,” Ned Foley, a professor at the Ohio State University, wrote in an email. The speaker is currently Nancy Pelosi.
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That's the way it is.
 
LV426 said:
Well....

Drumpf floats delaying election despite lack of authority to do so
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/30/politics/trump-delay-election-no-authority/index.html

And before anyone says he can't do that, remember that he couldn't also extort Ukraine for political gain, couldn't kidnap children and lock them in cages (or worse), couldn't send unmarked and unidentified "federal agents" to kidnap people off the street, and couldn't let key bureaucratic positions go unstaffed.
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Nobody said he couldn't do those other things--those are all within the president's power.

But Flash is still right. He will not cancel the election. "Floating" the idea is like floating injecting you with bleach--something that will never happen.
 
Flash said:
Nobody said he couldn't do those other things--those are all within the president's power.
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It is within the President's power to hold up Congressionally-approved aid to a foreign country for political purposes?

We just had a whole trial about that very issue 5 months ago, remember????


But Flash is still right. He will not cancel the election.
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Right, and tax cuts grow the economy. Blah blah, we've heard your bad predictions and thinking before.


"Floating" the idea is like floating injecting you with bleach--something that will never happen.
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Yet Conservatives injected themselves with bleach.
 
Flash said:
Nobody said he couldn't do those other things--those are all within the president's power.

But Flash is still right. He will not cancel the election. "Floating" the idea is like floating injecting you with bleach--something that will never happen.
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Let's also not forget that your tax cutting dogma, which you still adhere to, has resulted in the worst economic collapse in our nation's history.

The current recession started in February, before the lockdowns.

So tax cuts caused a recession.

Are you going to rethink your orthodoxy? Probably not.
 
Flash said:
Nobody said he couldn't do those other things--those are all within the president's power.

But Flash is still right. He will not cancel the election. "Floating" the idea is like floating injecting you with bleach--something that will never happen.
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Depends, from his floating the idea the right wing demagogues will take it from there, by this time next week Rush, Laura, Bill, Tucker, and Sean will have Trump’s base convinced that mail in voting is fraudulent, the election will be rigged, and Trump should postpone the election
 
LV426 said:
Yes, some people are painfully and woefully naive like Flash.
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You are such an alarmist. You are never right about anything.

LV426 thinks we can legally kill an American wearing a Nazi uniform or flying a Nazi flag but committing no crime. And I am naive?
 
archives said:
Depends, from his floating the idea the right wing demagogues will take it from there, by this time next week Rush, Laura, Bill, Tucker, and Sean will have Trump’s base convinced that mail in voting is fraudulent, the election will be rigged, and Trump should postpone the election
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That would be political suicide.
 
Flash said:
You are such an alarmist. You are never right about anything.
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Really? I was right when I said the Russia Tax Cut would lead to a recession and never eclipse Obama's best annual and quarterly GDP.

I was also right when I said that reopening states was a mistake and would lead to a surge, with businesses that opened having to close for good...like this one:

Castle Rock restaurant that defied public health order in May closes permanently two months later
https://www.denverpost.com/2020/07/28/c-and-c-castle-rock-restaurant-closed/

I was right when I said the Democrats would win the House in 2018.

I was right when I said the House would impeach Trump.

So...what have you been right about? Not tax cuts.
 
Flash said:
That would be political suicide.
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Perhaps, but just laying the groundwork accomplishes what Trump wants, portraying the election as fraudulent and rigged, and from there, who knows, as far fetch as it seems, I really could see Trump realizing he has lost and can do nothing about it taking down the country by dividing it further just as many autocrats before him have done elsewhere
 
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