small business owners prefer Obama

HERE IS THE ACTUAL SURVEY

You will find this is a "weighted" survey. What this means is, they go out and gather all this information, then they start applying various 'conditionals' to it, in order to achieve the numbers they want. All of this is laid out in the first pages of the PDF linked above, you can go read it for yourself, if you have the mind. So this is a manipulated result, refined and distilled to give the desired result, which... oh my goodness... just happens to favor President Obama! :shockface:

The OVERWHELMING majority of small businesses in America, KNOW that Obama and Obamacare are BAD for their business. This piece of liberal propaganda is designed to refute that fact and render it a myth. And the really nasty thing is, some people are gullible enough to buy this load of crap, and accept this survey as legitimate.
 
No one likes studies or polls that say something they don't like.

I am a small business owner who believes Romney will be devastating to small businesses owners. However, in my personal experience, most of the small business owners I deal with do support Romney. To the point that I am very ambiguous about my own politics playing the roll of a low information voter and even perhaps giving the impression I don't even bother to vote. Most right wing men love this, and of course i am actually 115 steps ahead of them. Grind calls it playing the stereotype of a dumb girl, but in fact it's a subversive technique. It's rather analogous to the 50's housewife told by her husband all she is good for is cooking and she's not a good cook. So she bakes him the best cake she ever made and he eats it and says "you are finally learning but you should work even harder at it" just before he keels from the rat poison she put in it.
 
denying any scrap of information you dont like is not helping this country move forward.


Its insane and helps no one.

It harms your own party.



Its time the republicans kicked the crazy people out of the drivers seat and start admitting there are verifiable facts in the world.


This country will NOT follow you to crazytown meatsack
 
evince said:
Its time the republicans kicked the crazy people out of the drivers seat and start admitting there are verifiable facts in the world.
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:rofl2:

Thats why we are kicking Obama's ass to the curb this November, he is an admitted liar and a complete idiot.
 
Here you go Desh, Obama falls out of favor with tech leaders. This was in yesterday's paper. Of course as I read this yesterday I remember rollling my eyes thinking 'who cares' then going on to the next article but for the sake of playing tit for tat here it is.

http://www.sfgate.com/business/bott...alls-out-of-favor-with-tech-execs-3954146.php


And my question for Darla. Have you ever been in a position with these other small business people that talk of supporting Romney where you've felt you would lose business if you didn't agree with their political stances? Or I guess I could ask vice-versa have you heard others talk of supporting Romney and you said I'm done doing business with you?
 
cawacko said:
Here you go Desh, Obama falls out of favor with tech leaders. This was in yesterday's paper. Of course as I read this yesterday I remember rollling my eyes thinking 'who cares' then going on to the next article but for the sake of playing tit for tat here it is.

http://www.sfgate.com/business/bott...alls-out-of-favor-with-tech-execs-3954146.php


And my question for Darla. Have you ever been in a position with these other small business people that talk of supporting Romney where you've felt you would lose business if you didn't agree with their political stances? Or I guess I could ask vice-versa have you heard others talk of supporting Romney and you said I'm done doing business with you?
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The answer to your first question is definitely yes. Only when I become really friendly will I open up about it. I definitely have friends I meet in networking who are right wingers and who I eventually get to know well enough to tell, and they always laugh their asses off, and it's not a problem between us. But for a specific instance I recently had a woman referred to me by a IT guy I work with and she was right wing teaparty type, and man did she want everyone to know it. Do I think she would have bought her copier from me if she found out my politics? Absolutely not, she hates democrats never mind liberals and is very open about it.

The answer to your second question is no. The only time I have refused to do business with someone it was becasue they were a Hasidic Jew and refused to shake my hand. I went up to their booth at a tradeshow and this was a show I was at to actually do purchasing. He said he coudln't shake my hand. I was bewildered until I realized and I asked, could you shake my hand if I was a man? And he answered "of course"

Of course! Can you imagine? Of course if you were a man I could shake your hand because you'd be a human fucking being then! He saw I was upset and said, oh please don't be offended it's my religion. Well I am not a righty and I don't take this shit from Jews anymore than I would take it from a Muslim man who said the same shit to me, and I told him, well, misogyny is not a religion and if my hands are so dirty imagine how filthy my money must be.

And that was the only time. Unless a person was outright openly racist or sexist I really don't allow it to affect business. But not everyone is like me. And I know that.
 
Darla said:
The answer to your first question is definitely yes. Only when I become really friendly will I open up about it. I definitely have friends I meet in networking who are right wingers and who I eventually get to know well enough to tell, and they always laugh their asses off, and it's not a problem between us. But for a specific instance I recently had a woman referred to me by a IT guy I work with and she was right wing teaparty type, and man did she want everyone to know it. Do I think she would have bought her copier from me if she found out my politics? Absolutely not, she hates democrats never mind liberals and is very open about it.

The answer to your second question is no. The only time I have refused to do business with someone it was becasue they were a Hasidic Jew and refused to shake my hand. I went up to their booth at a tradeshow and this was a show I was at to actually do purchasing. He said he coudln't shake my hand. I was bewildered until I realized and I asked, could you shake my hand if I was a man? And he answered "of course"

Of course! Can you imagine? Of course if you were a man I could shake your hand because you'd be a human fucking being then! He saw I was upset and said, oh please don't be offended it's my religion. Well I am not a righty and I don't take this shit from Jews anymore than I would take it from a Muslim man who said the same shit to me, and I told him, well, misogyny is not a religion and if my hands are so dirty imagine how filthy my money must be.

And that was the only time. Unless a person was outright openly racist or sexist I really don't allow it to affect business. But not everyone is like me. And I know that.
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Interesting. I'm thinking through my work life and there were definitely co-workers who I knew were either Republican or Democrat but I can't recall coming across people who were so open about their politics defining them. If a situation ever came about I would react more like you where doing business and making money is more important than getting in a political debate with someone.

My grandfather worked in real estate in Ohio and I remember him telling stories from back in the '60's when there would be racial tension and he would tell people "I don't like black, I don't like white, I like green". He did business with everyone and did well for himself as a result. I've always remember that.

I've never come across a Hesidic Jew in a work environment but I didn't know they wouldn't shake hands with a woman. I can't believe he would do that in a work environemnt as well. Can't blame you for walking away.
 
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