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Trump vs. Manafort? The White House sounds ready to go to war.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...top-stories_fix-manafort-1220p:homepage/story

Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III is clearly building a case against Paul Manafort, President Trump's former top campaign aide. The inescapable conclusion from that is that he is hoping Manafort will cut a deal — that he'll “flip” on Trump and spill whatever beans he might have to spill.

With that possibility looking increasingly real, the White House must figure out its Manafort strategy. How the administration handles the former Trump aide who might wind up being its worst enemy is perhaps the most intriguing personal subplot of the Hollywood drama that is the Russia investigation.

And if the initial response to the latest Manafort news is any indication, the White House is preparing to fight Manafort head-on.

The Post broke a big story Wednesday, publishing some contents of the emails Mueller's investigators have obtained from Manafort. In those emails, Manafort talks about setting up a briefing with a Russian oligarch who is close to Russian President Vladimir Putin. He also discusses his newfound high profile as a Trump strategist and asks an employee, “How do we use [this] to get whole?” — apparently referring to debts he believed he was owed but had been unable to collect.

The White House is now seizing on that latter email. In comments to Bloomberg's Margaret Talev late Wednesday, White House lawyer Ty Cobb said that “it would be truly shocking” if Manafort “tried to monetize his relationship with the president.”

(1) Ty Cobb tells me re WaPo report:"It would be truly shocking" if true Paul Manafort "tried to monetize his relationship w the president."

(2) Cobb: "It certainly would never have been tolerated by the president or his team."

Those are pretty harsh words, and they seem to echo other sentiments that have leaked out of the White House about Manafort. Here's how The Post's team described views of Manafort on Wednesday:

Former campaign officials said that Manafort frequently told his campaign colleagues that assertions made about him by the press were specious. They also privately shared concerns about whether Manafort was always putting the candidate’s interests first.


It all sounds a lot like a White House that is preparing to disown Manafort and to say that he was out for himself from Day One. That could, of course, help it argue that he's not credible; it could say that he's basically about to do whatever it takes to save his own hide and will say anything — the usual strategy for witnesses who cut deals with prosecutors.

FBI agents with a search warrant raided the home of Paul Manafort, President Trump's former campaign chairman, without warning July 26 and seized documents and other records, say people familiar with the special counsel investigation. (Photo: Michael Robinson Chavez/The Washington Post)
But if there is still a chance that Manafort wouldn't flip, alienating him at this point would seem to be counterproductive. Why ruffle the feathers of a guy who could wind up doing you real damage? Why not keep your powder dry until you know where Manafort stands and whether Mueller actually has the goods to indict him, as investigators have reportedly told Manafort they intend to do.

The comments seem to be more a threat than anything else. The White House hasn't attacked Manafort directly — Cobb uses the important if-it's-true modifier — but it seems to be signaling that it is ready and willing to go to war if that becomes necessary. Turning against Trump won't be without consequences, the White House seems to be saying.

But if the White House officials keeps up this combative tone on Manafort, it could signal that they are resigned to the idea that he is no longer their friend. They've sought to downplay his work for the campaign before, and now they seem to be coming right out and questioning his character. That seems a pretty significant moment in this whole matter — and perhaps a sign of a historic clash to come.
 
Trump vs. Manafort? The White House sounds ready to go to war.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...top-stories_fix-manafort-1220p:homepage/story

Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III is clearly building a case against Paul Manafort, President Trump's former top campaign aide. The inescapable conclusion from that is that he is hoping Manafort will cut a deal — that he'll “flip” on Trump and spill whatever beans he might have to spill.

With that possibility looking increasingly real, the White House must figure out its Manafort strategy. How the administration handles the former Trump aide who might wind up being its worst enemy is perhaps the most intriguing personal subplot of the Hollywood drama that is the Russia investigation.

And if the initial response to the latest Manafort news is any indication, the White House is preparing to fight Manafort head-on.

The Post broke a big story Wednesday, publishing some contents of the emails Mueller's investigators have obtained from Manafort. In those emails, Manafort talks about setting up a briefing with a Russian oligarch who is close to Russian President Vladimir Putin. He also discusses his newfound high profile as a Trump strategist and asks an employee, “How do we use [this] to get whole?” — apparently referring to debts he believed he was owed but had been unable to collect.

The White House is now seizing on that latter email. In comments to Bloomberg's Margaret Talev late Wednesday, White House lawyer Ty Cobb said that “it would be truly shocking” if Manafort “tried to monetize his relationship with the president.”

(1) Ty Cobb tells me re WaPo report:"It would be truly shocking" if true Paul Manafort "tried to monetize his relationship w the president."

(2) Cobb: "It certainly would never have been tolerated by the president or his team."

Those are pretty harsh words, and they seem to echo other sentiments that have leaked out of the White House about Manafort. Here's how The Post's team described views of Manafort on Wednesday:

Former campaign officials said that Manafort frequently told his campaign colleagues that assertions made about him by the press were specious. They also privately shared concerns about whether Manafort was always putting the candidate’s interests first.


It all sounds a lot like a White House that is preparing to disown Manafort and to say that he was out for himself from Day One. That could, of course, help it argue that he's not credible; it could say that he's basically about to do whatever it takes to save his own hide and will say anything — the usual strategy for witnesses who cut deals with prosecutors.

FBI agents with a search warrant raided the home of Paul Manafort, President Trump's former campaign chairman, without warning July 26 and seized documents and other records, say people familiar with the special counsel investigation. (Photo: Michael Robinson Chavez/The Washington Post)
But if there is still a chance that Manafort wouldn't flip, alienating him at this point would seem to be counterproductive. Why ruffle the feathers of a guy who could wind up doing you real damage? Why not keep your powder dry until you know where Manafort stands and whether Mueller actually has the goods to indict him, as investigators have reportedly told Manafort they intend to do.

The comments seem to be more a threat than anything else. The White House hasn't attacked Manafort directly — Cobb uses the important if-it's-true modifier — but it seems to be signaling that it is ready and willing to go to war if that becomes necessary. Turning against Trump won't be without consequences, the White House seems to be saying.

But if the White House officials keeps up this combative tone on Manafort, it could signal that they are resigned to the idea that he is no longer their friend. They've sought to downplay his work for the campaign before, and now they seem to be coming right out and questioning his character. That seems a pretty significant moment in this whole matter — and perhaps a sign of a historic clash to come.

Wrong. I will explain, collusion with the Russians is not a Federal crime, thus they can not charge him with anything. Manafort will likely sue the government for harassment as there is not even a charge to hit him with if he did it. This is illegal
 
So let’s say Manafort spills these so called beans. Doesn’t he need to have some proof?


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If he sings the wrong tune - one that includes his work for the Podesta brothers and Hillary's State Department - he might come down with a case of Arkancide.


Special Counsel Robert Mueller issued grand jury subpoenas in recent days seeking testimony from public relations executives who worked on an international campaign organized by Paul Manafort. Mueller's team is closely examining the lobbying campaign, which ran between 2012 and 2014.

Manafort, whose Alexandria, Virginia, apartment was raided by FBI agents, has emerged as a key figure in the Mueller probe. The inquiry into the lobbying campaign appears to be part of a larger investigation into his work for a pro-Russian Ukrainian political party.

Six firms participated in the public relations effort that Manafort coordinated, paid for by a Brussels-based non-profit called the European Center for a Modern Ukraine. The stated goal was to build support for Ukraine's entry into the European Union. Two of the firms, Podesta Group and Mercury LLC, worked in Washington with Manafort partner Rick Gates, according to lobbying disclosure records. Three other firms worked in Europe.

At the time, Ukraine was run by a pro-Russian political party that had paid Manafort $17 million for consulting in 2013 and 2014.

The Associated Press first revealed the pro-Ukraine lobbying campaign. The report said the campaign was designed to sway public opinion and included attempts to solicit favorable press coverage in The New York Times.

Now, ask yourself- was Trump colluding the the Ukrainians in 2012-2014?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mueller-seeks-grand-jury-testimony-pr-execs-who-worked-manafort-n796066
 
Wrong. I will explain, collusion with the Russians is not a Federal crime, thus they can not charge him with anything. Manafort will likely sue the government for harassment as there is not even a charge to hit him with if he did it. This is illegal

You have zero idea what they might be looking to charge Manafort with or what they are trying to determine Trump might be guilty of.

Therefore, you're talking out of your ass as usual.
 
You have zero idea what they might be looking to charge Manafort with or what they are trying to determine Trump might be guilty of.

Therefore, you're talking out of your ass as usual.

Actually there are no charges, as the FBI does not tell people that they are going to charge them. They just do it, do remind us when Manafort goes to prison.

Again kid, collusion is not a crime, I could call the FBI right now and tell them that I am colluding with the Russians, and they could not do anything.

This is not only fake news but fake law, which schizzos like you can not distinguish
 
Wrong. I will explain, collusion with the Russians is not a Federal crime, thus they can not charge him with anything. Manafort will likely sue the government for harassment as there is not even a charge to hit him with if he did it. This is illegal

COLLUSION = TRIGGERED!
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
 
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Actually there are no charges, as the FBI does not tell people that they are going to charge them. They just do it, do remind us when Manafort goes to prison.

Again kid, collusion is not a crime, I could call the FBI right now and tell them that I am colluding with the Russians, and they could not do anything.

This is not only fake news but fake law, which schizzos like you can not distinguish
 
Actually there are no charges, as the FBI does not tell people that they are going to charge them. They just do it, do remind us when Manafort goes to prison.

Again kid, collusion is not a crime, I could call the FBI right now and tell them that I am colluding with the Russians, and they could not do anything.

This is not only fake news but fake law, which schizzos like you can not distinguish

The moron's vocabulary:

Collusion
Trigger
Fake News
Hysteria bubble
Deep state
MAGA

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
 
Actually there are no charges, as the FBI does not tell people that they are going to charge them. They just do it, do remind us when Manafort goes to prison.

Again kid, collusion is not a crime, I could call the FBI right now and tell them that I am colluding with the Russians, and they could not do anything.

This is not only fake news but fake law, which schizzos like you can not distinguish

It is wrong to say that no law forbids Russia-Trump collusion

The U.S. Justice Department appointed Mueller to investigate Russian interference with the 2016 presidential election. His first task was to explore "any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump."

Three prominent election law professors all said that while the word "collusion" might not appear in key statutes (they couldn’t say for sure that it was totally absent), working with the Russians could violate criminal laws.

Nathaniel Persily at Stanford University Law School said one relevant statute is the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002.

"A foreign national spending money to influence a federal election can be a crime," Persily said. "And if a U.S. citizen coordinates, conspires or assists in that spending, then it could be a crime."

Persily pointed to a 2011 U.S. District Court ruling based on the 2002 law. The judges said that the law bans foreign nationals "from making expenditures to expressly advocate the election or defeat of a political candidate."

Another election law specialist, John Coates at Harvard University Law School, said if Russians aimed to shape the outcome of the presidential election, that would meet the definition of an expenditure.

"The related funds could also be viewed as an illegal contribution to any candidate who coordinates (colludes) with the foreign speaker," Coates said.

Coates said discussions between a campaign and a foreigner could violate the law against fraud.

"Under that statute, it is a federal crime to conspire with anyone, including a foreign government, to ‘deprive another of the intangible right of honest services,’ " Coates said. "That would include fixing a fraudulent election, in my view, within the plain meaning of the statute."

Josh Douglas at the University of Kentucky Law School offered two other possible relevant statutes.

"Collusion in a federal election with a foreign entity could potentially fall under other crimes, such as against public corruption," Douglas said. "There's also a general anti-coercion federal election law."

In sum, legal experts mentioned four criminal laws that might have been broken. The key is not whether those statutes use the word collusion, but whether the activities of the Russians and Trump associates went beyond permissible acts.

Three prominent election law scholars said there are at least four laws that would prohibit the sort of activities under investigation, whether those laws mention collusion or not. To focus on a single word fails to reflect the reach of the criminal code.
 
It is wrong to say that no law forbids Russia-Trump collusion

The U.S. Justice Department appointed Mueller to investigate Russian interference with the 2016 presidential election. His first task was to explore "any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump."

Three prominent election law professors all said that while the word "collusion" might not appear in key statutes (they couldn’t say for sure that it was totally absent), working with the Russians could violate criminal laws.

Nathaniel Persily at Stanford University Law School said one relevant statute is the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002.

"A foreign national spending money to influence a federal election can be a crime," Persily said. "And if a U.S. citizen coordinates, conspires or assists in that spending, then it could be a crime."

Persily pointed to a 2011 U.S. District Court ruling based on the 2002 law. The judges said that the law bans foreign nationals "from making expenditures to expressly advocate the election or defeat of a political candidate."

Another election law specialist, John Coates at Harvard University Law School, said if Russians aimed to shape the outcome of the presidential election, that would meet the definition of an expenditure.

"The related funds could also be viewed as an illegal contribution to any candidate who coordinates (colludes) with the foreign speaker," Coates said.

Coates said discussions between a campaign and a foreigner could violate the law against fraud.

"Under that statute, it is a federal crime to conspire with anyone, including a foreign government, to ‘deprive another of the intangible right of honest services,’ " Coates said. "That would include fixing a fraudulent election, in my view, within the plain meaning of the statute."

Josh Douglas at the University of Kentucky Law School offered two other possible relevant statutes.

"Collusion in a federal election with a foreign entity could potentially fall under other crimes, such as against public corruption," Douglas said. "There's also a general anti-coercion federal election law."

In sum, legal experts mentioned four criminal laws that might have been broken. The key is not whether those statutes use the word collusion, but whether the activities of the Russians and Trump associates went beyond permissible acts.

Three prominent election law scholars said there are at least four laws that would prohibit the sort of activities under investigation, whether those laws mention collusion or not. To focus on a single word fails to reflect the reach of the criminal code.

Poor Donald.
 
Persily pointed to a 2011 U.S. District Court ruling based on the 2002 law. The judges said that the law bans foreign nationals "from making expenditures to expressly advocate the election or defeat of a political candidate."

Another election law specialist, John Coates at Harvard University Law School, said if Russians aimed to shape the outcome of the presidential election, that would meet the definition of an expenditure.
a very narrow reading..i'm sure it has to be fungible funds
 
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