should political contributions over $1000 be anonymous
should political contributions be anonymous
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Dixie - In Memoriam
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What do you mean by "political contributions" and what do you mean by "anonymous?"
Do you include contributions to 501(c) groups?
Do you include contributions to 527 groups?
Do you include contributions to political action committees?
Do you count providing meeting places and venues as contributions?
Do you count professional services as contributions?
What about meals and refreshments, do those count?
How about transportation?
What about campaign materials, are those contributions?
Is a union due counted as a contribution?
Is media coverage a contribution?
How do we determine anonymity? Is someone going to verify each contribution was given by the person disclosed?
Are we going to check their birth certificate and confirm they are each an American citizen?
You've asked a very vague question, and I think I can figure out your motivations. The outright slanderous LIE perpetrated by the White House this week, in a desperate attempt to energize their base, by falsely accusing the U.S. Chamber of Commerce (of all things), of taking campaign funds from undisclosed foreign entities. What should happen is, the Justice Department should launch a full-scale investigation into every penny donated to get Obama elected president. And I would say the same thing, if a Republican pulled this same cheap shot crap before an election! You want to point your finger and accuse people of an outright lie? We'll start by probing every orifice of your little cabal, and see how squeaky clean you are, before we look at anything else. That's how it SHOULD be handled, but it won't.
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It depends on how contributions are received. Any contribution received by the candidate themselves or their campaign office should be disclosed as to origin. However, the 1st Amendment guarantees freedom of association. Part of that freedom is the right to associate with any organization one wishes to associate with, WITHOUT government tracking your assocaitions and actions within. Any requirement to disclose contributions to private political organizations is tracking, and that is anti-liberty.
any contribution for political purposes over $1000 needs to create a public paper trail back to the contributor, be it an individual, association or corporation
i disagree, however if such a law were passed it would have to pass the scotus test...
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Any contribution to who? If I give $1000 to the US Chamber of Commerce because I am a business owner who likes the Chamber, and they happen to use my money to run an ad opposing some anti-capitalist politician, should I be reported? What if the anti-capitalist politician happens to be my wife's brother and it causes her to divorce me when she finds out? Can I sue the government for that?
What you are saying doesn't really make any sense, you haven't clarified what you are suggesting. There are already disclosure laws on the books, candidates have to tell us where any individual contribution over $1k comes from.
Minister of Truth
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Should voting be anonymous, peoplez?
Sammy Jankis
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MOney is not speech. That notion is just a judicial perversion. You should recognize it as such and stop being such a fascist enabler.
You're against corporations and unions being allowed to donate money.
Minister of Truth
Practically Perfect
Money is speech.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
No it's not. It never will be.
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money talks and bullshit walks fuckstick
Minister of Truth
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Then language isn't speech, along with art, expression, code, signing, symbols, print, whistling, singing, humming, telepathy, and so forth.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Why stop at $1000? There's nothing to prevent George Soros from getting 10,000 people, say, $1100 each after they write a check to the Democrat Party for $999. I'm sure that's how he financed The Obama.
No. Everybody should be able to give as they will, however all donations should be disclosed. Just as any political ad on TV should disclose all of those who donated to get the ad on the air (yes including the stupid 527s.) However, this should include ALL donations, even those less than $1000. (Ads could disclose on a website given at the end of the ad, provided it is readable and lists all those who donated to the 527 to get the ad on the air.)
Donations from untraceable sources should be declined. (Such as ones made from untraceable pre-paid credit cards that could be handed out to people to "donate")...
Donations from untraceable sources should be declined. (Such as ones made from untraceable pre-paid credit cards that could be handed out to people to "donate")...
money is a fiction that most of us have agreed to pretend is not a fiction
Socrtease
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If I want to say something negative about a candidate there is nothing you can do to stop me. If I want to say it to millions of people then I need a political ad on television. That costs money. Political ad = speech. Political ad = x dollars. Therefore Speech = Dollars. There is no other way for me to get my message across effectively.
zappasguitar
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How many feet does a fuckstick have and how long does it take a bullshit to walk one?
Look into some punctuation next time, alrightie Brainiac?
cawacko
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DQ, you gave this post a thumbs down. Why is that?
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who peed in your cheerios today?
assprattle knows what i mean by fuckstick...its his little joke
stop being so angry and lighten up and stop being so nosey