Should Illegals Be Allowed To Vote For Local School Board?

cawacko

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That issue is coming up for a vote before the Board of Supervisors in San Francisco. This being San Francisco it probably will pass. It says if you have a child in a SF public school you can vote for the School Board regardless if you are a citizen or not.

In a way I don't care because if I have children and still live in SF I'm sending them to private school or moving to the 'burbs. Yeah I understand wanting parents involved with their kids but if the point of being a citizen is the right to vote this just makes a mockery of it imo.


Board gets another look at non-citizen voting plan

Election day in San Francisco could have a very different look under a pair of measures that will go in front of the supervisors Tuesday.

In a rerun of a 2004 effort, the board is being asked to clear the way for non-citizens to vote in school board elections. A similar measure, Prop. F in 2004, lost a tight race.

The measure would limit non-citizen voting to the school board election and only include parents and guardians of students in the school district.

Board President David Chiu, a driving force behind the new effort. His argument is that since an estimated one-third of the district's students have immigrant parents, those parents should have a say in their children's education.

While cities, including New York and Chicago, have allowed non-citizens to participate in school elections, the San Francisco ordinance would be on a fast-track to the courts if it makes the ballot and gets passed. The city controller also estimates it would cost nearly $800,000 to run a separate election, although Chiu believes the cost could be slashed by running a mail-only election.

Supervisor Ross Mirkarimi also wants to put a plan to allow same-day voter registration on the November ballot. The measure, which only would affect city elections, would allow voters who don't register by the state deadline, which is 15 days before the election, to cast a provisional ballot on election day.

None of this will make life any easier for city election officials. Since the local changes can only affect local changes, each election would have a different set of rules. And if non-citizens are allowed to vote, it would require a separate voting list for the school board elections.

"This is all doable," said John Arntz, the city's election chief. "But it's a lot more complicated than it appears to casual observers."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs...kItemsPerPage=10&plckSort=TimeStampDescending
 
That issue is coming up for a vote before the Board of Supervisors in San Francisco. This being San Francisco it probably will pass. It says if you have a child in a SF public school you can vote for the School Board regardless if you are a citizen or not.

In a way I don't care because if I have children and still live in SF I'm sending them to private school or moving to the 'burbs. Yeah I understand wanting parents involved with their kids but if the point of being a citizen is the right to vote this just makes a mockery of it imo.


Board gets another look at non-citizen voting plan

Election day in San Francisco could have a very different look under a pair of measures that will go in front of the supervisors Tuesday.

In a rerun of a 2004 effort, the board is being asked to clear the way for non-citizens to vote in school board elections. A similar measure, Prop. F in 2004, lost a tight race.

The measure would limit non-citizen voting to the school board election and only include parents and guardians of students in the school district.

Board President David Chiu, a driving force behind the new effort. His argument is that since an estimated one-third of the district's students have immigrant parents, those parents should have a say in their children's education.

While cities, including New York and Chicago, have allowed non-citizens to participate in school elections, the San Francisco ordinance would be on a fast-track to the courts if it makes the ballot and gets passed. The city controller also estimates it would cost nearly $800,000 to run a separate election, although Chiu believes the cost could be slashed by running a mail-only election.

Supervisor Ross Mirkarimi also wants to put a plan to allow same-day voter registration on the November ballot. The measure, which only would affect city elections, would allow voters who don't register by the state deadline, which is 15 days before the election, to cast a provisional ballot on election day.

None of this will make life any easier for city election officials. Since the local changes can only affect local changes, each election would have a different set of rules. And if non-citizens are allowed to vote, it would require a separate voting list for the school board elections.

"This is all doable," said John Arntz, the city's election chief. "But it's a lot more complicated than it appears to casual observers."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs...kItemsPerPage=10&plckSort=TimeStampDescending


Illegals? Certainly not. Resident aliens? Yes.
 
Illegals? Certainly not. Resident aliens? Yes.

What's that with a green card? I'd be more open to it if it was green card holding people only but since (if I'm reading it right) it looks like they are including all (illegals and green card holders) I'm not a big fan.
 
Errr... I'm pretty sure that such measures only include legal residents, not illegals. It's not really that outrageous. In the past, 20 states used to allow legal residents to even vote for president, although none do today. I wouldn't really mind legal residents voting in local elections, although proles get pissed off if anyone even barely approaches the concept.
 
I read on another board that after WWII 13 million were deported to make room for returning vets. Why aren't republicans pushing for this?
 
If one wants to vote, become a citizen. Resident aliens are not told, "If you are here X number of years without becoming a citizen, you must go back." No forced citizenship. All other benefits and responsibilities are available. So no to any voting without citizenship.
 
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