Seymour Hersh: Spy chiefs invented Russia-collusion

mainstream media wont touch a multiple award winning highly accredited journalist who revealed the my lai massacre and abu graib abused, a man who has won a pulitizer prize, who has said he's seen with his own eyes and FBI report that seth was the one that gave the emails to wikileaks. wikileaks (which has never been proven wrong) also retweeted this audio. Why is the mainstream media hiding this? The deep state goes deep my friends.
 
excellent article all the way thru...look at this tidbit
He also revealed that those agencies did not do the assessment themselves.
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Former CIA officer Fred Fleitz

The analysis and conclusion were made by an irregular and hand-picked panel of what were called experts, who actually may have been, according to former CIA officer Fred Fleitz, highly politicized.
Fleitz served in U.S. national security positions for 25 years at the CIA, DIA, Department of State and the House Intelligence Committee staff.
As someone intimately familiar with the inner workings of the intelligence community, Fleitz penned an article for Fox News on May 12, that spelled out what really happened.

He had written previously that when the U.S. Intelligence Community issued an ‘Intelligence Community Assessment’ (ICA) on January 6, 2017, that found Russia deliberately interfered in the 2016 presidential election to benefit Trump’s candidacy, he “was suspicious because it reached unusually clear judgments on a politically explosive issue with no dissenting views.”

Fleitz was then surprised to hear Clapper explain in his May testimony that two dozen or so “seasoned experts” were “handpicked” from the contributing agencies and drafted the ICA “under the aegis of his former office” (the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.)
Wrote Fleitz, “This process drastically differed from the Intelligence Community’s normal procedures.”
Describing just how unusual that was, he said, Hand-picking a handful of analysts from just three intelligence agencies to write such a controversial assessment went against standing rules to vet such analyses throughout the Intelligence Community within its existing structure.”

Furthermore, “The idea of using hand-picked intelligence analysts selected through some unknown process to write an assessment on such a politically sensitive topic carries a strong stench of politicization.”


Fleitz also noted that former FBI Director James Comey had testified that the report’s conclusion of Russian interference was based on logic, not evidence.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2017/08/seymour-...d-russia-collusion-story/#d4X01hxU5zKLQLG3.99
 
Fleitz also noted that former FBI Director James Comey had testified that the report’s conclusion of Russian interference was based on logic, not evidence.

Fleitz called it a major problem that “the process gave John Brennan, CIA’s hyper-partisan former director, enormous influence over the drafting of the ICA.”
“Given Brennan’s scathing criticism of Mr. Trump before and after the election, he should have had no role whatsoever in the drafting of this assessment. Instead, Brennan probably selected the CIA analysts who worked on the ICA and reviewed and approved their conclusions.”
In other words, it seems Fleitz thought it not impossible that Brennan rigged the report to arrive at the conclusion he wanted.
Which makes Brennan’s testimony before the House Intelligence Committee on May 24, all the more relevant, because even though he testified he saw no evidence of collusion the former CIA director admitted it was he who set in motion the FBI’s investigation into whether the Trump team colluded with the Russians.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2017/08/seymour-...d-russia-collusion-story/#d4X01hxU5zKLQLG3.99

He also blasted the major media for uncritically accepting the claims by Obama’s intelligence officials as facts.
“The way they (the media) behaved on the Russia stuff was outrageous,” Hersh said two days after Trump was inaugurated. “They were just so willing to believe stuff (congress too)
 
Trumps win was a serious blow to the establishment. He has been the biggest threat to the status quo in Washington DC in generations. Sure many politicians claim to want to change Washington but they get there and three things happen

1) they realize how rich they can get by "playing ball"
2) their carefully hidden dirt is exposed and they are threatened with blackmail
3) their wives and kids are subjected to abuse because "daddy wants to starve poor people", especially if they live in DC. It is a liberal town and if you want to have a social life ya gotta be in with the liberals. That means being an "acceptable" conservative like McCain, Flake, Joey Scarborough etc

Think about it. What Republican would have been able to survive in the Senate given all of Teddy Kennedy's scandals. Every single piece written about a republican who left a woman to die would be led off with "the politician who left a girl to die 30 years ago"

Or Robert Byrd? Every article about him would be "former klansman"

I could go on but you get the point.

Washington DC is the biggest of all bubbles. Not just democrats thought and wanted Trump to lose, but so did many Republicans like McShamnesy, Grahmnesty, Paul Ryan,McCuntell and many more. But they know that they can't openly defy Trump because their base is the largest political force in this country.

McCuntell plotted the demise of the repeal of Obamacare. He got Collins, McShamnesty and that cunt Murcocksey to vote no. He thinks he gave himself cover but he fools nobody


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Literal Vampire Potbelly Goblin said:
mainstream media wont touch a multiple award winning highly accredited journalist who revealed the my lai massacre and abu graib abused, a man who has won a pulitizer prize, who has said he's seen with his own eyes and FBI report that seth was the one that gave the emails to wikileaks. wikileaks (which has never been proven wrong) also retweeted this audio. Why is the mainstream media hiding this? The deep state goes deep my friends.
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Who is the deep state, you use the phrase often and it has different meanings to different people, interested in your definition, does it line up with Breitbart or Alex Jones or are you a Trilateral Deep state guy? Is the deep
state protecting Trump as Jones thinks or are they conspiring against him? How do you become deep state? Is it like the Mason's with secret rituals and handshakes.
 
Covfefe said:
Who is the deep state, you use the phrase often and it has different meanings to different people, interested in your definition, does it line up with Breitbart or Alex Jones or are you a Trilateral Deep state guy? Is the deep
state protecting Trump as Jones thinks or are they conspiring against him? How do you become deep state? Is it like the Mason's with secret rituals and handshakes.
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jones does NOT think the deep state is protecting trump are you fucking crazy? Like do you listen to these things or do you just make shit up? Alex jones believes trump is under constant attack from the deep state.

Deep state =

The liar intelligence agencies and most entrenched 3 letters groups that can really pull the strings
The military industrial complex
The bureaucrats
The mainstream media
Washington insider politicains beholden to special interests/globalism agenda

This is what the deep state has always meant. Entrenched power apparatus's in our nation. In the mid century it would have largely been hoover and his thugs. It's not some random term dumbasses can apply however they want.

Thank you for your honest inquiry though in trying to figure me out.
 
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Granule said:
WASHINGTON – The entire Russia collusion story was a fiction made up by intelligence chiefs who lied about President Trump, and lied to President Obama and the media, according to a person on a just-released audio recording who is almost certainly legendary Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2017/08/seymour-...d-russia-collusion-story/#w6EGDD8IHt24sbOM.99


No surprise over here. ;)
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trash from a trash site
 
Literal Vampire Potbelly Goblin said:
jones does NOT think the deep state is protecting trump are you fucking crazy? Like do you listen to these things or do you just make shit up? Alex jones believes trump is under constant attack from the deep state.

Deep state =

The liar intelligence agencies and most entrenched 3 letters groups that can really pull the strings
The military industrial complex
The bureaucrats
Washington insider politicains beholden to special interests/globalism agenda

This is what the deep state has always meant. Entrenched power apparatus's in our nation. In the mid century it would have largely been hoover and his thugs. It's not some random term dumbasses can apply however they want.

Thank you for your honest inquiry though in trying to figure me out.
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So all these agencies are conspiring together? Is it everyone in the agencies or do secret people get to pass on this power?
 
Covfefe said:
So all these agencies are conspiring together? Is it everyone in the agencies or do secret people get to pass on this power?
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I definitely think there are actual insidious people that manipulate, bribe, steal, cheat, and kill to get what they want at the highest and deepest levels of our government. Surrounding them is a large swath of useful idiots. There likely is some coordination and smokey backrooms but largely the deep state corruption would be systemic and not always totally conscious of its actions.
 
oh shit I left out the media above. The mainstream media is also part of the deepstate. It's a propaganda arm of the state. No different that chinese or russian propaganda on their own citizens.
 
Covfefe said:
Who is the deep state, you use the phrase often and it has different meanings to different people, interested in your definition, does it line up with Breitbart or Alex Jones or are you a Trilateral Deep state guy? Is the deep
state protecting Trump as Jones thinks or are they conspiring against him? How do you become deep state? Is it like the Mason's with secret rituals and handshakes.
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deflect much?

lolololol
 
Literal Vampire Potbelly Goblin said:
I definitely think there are actual insidious people that manipulate, bribe, steal, cheat, and kill to get what they want at the highest and deepest levels of our government. Surrounding them is a large swath of useful idiots. There likely is some coordination and smokey backrooms but largely the deep state corruption would be systemic and not always totally conscious of its actions.
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It just seems like it would have to be organized, and coordinated. New people would have to be brought in as others left. If there was such a group, don't you think a good investigative reporter would find them? Don't you think there would be leaks, defectors? So it's has no objectives because it is so secret and systemic it doesn't know it's objectives? How can it be effective operating under these circumstances?
 
It is organized and coordindated to a large extent: see all the lies and nothingburgers happening to trump. See history.

And yes, insiders do leak about this stuff occasionally. See edward snowden who revealed how the NSA was lying and how they were spying on all americans.

Their goals don't have to be explicit as you might imagine. Mostly it's about furthering their own power and influence, and anyone in those circles is going to be on board for that.
 
Literal Vampire Potbelly Goblin said:
It is organized and coordindated to a large extent: see all the lies and nothingburgers happening to trump. See history.

And yes, insiders do leak about this stuff occasionally. See edward snowden who revealed how the NSA was lying and how they were spying on all americans.

Their goals don't have to be explicit as you might imagine. Mostly it's about furthering their own power and influence, and anyone in those circles is going to be on board for that.
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Thanks, I appreciate your answers, the idea of a deep state has been around for a long time, various theories of this deep state has been floated and I just wondered what your version was.

Wasn't the NSA spying on us per the Bush administration? That is not what I would classify as the deep state, but you do?
 
Deep State are the un-elected IC leadership.
They are the ones that can generate intelligence reports from raw data ( not all raw intelligence gets its own report).

Once it's in report form it's a usable commodity ( packet I call it) that can be distributed among US
and so called "5 Eyes"
Obama lowered the bar for intelligence reports to be shared. Here is my go to source on this

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/01/us/politics/obama-trump-russia-election-hacking.html
Mr. Trump has accused the Obama administration of hyping the Russia story line as a way to discredit his new administration.

At the Obama White House, Mr. Trump’s statements stoked fears among some that intelligence could be covered up or destroyed — or its sources exposed — once power changed hands. What followed was a push to preserve the intelligence that underscored the deep anxiety with which the White House and American intelligence agencies had come to view the threat from Moscow....

As Inauguration Day approached, Obama White House officials grew convinced that the intelligence was damning and that they needed to ensure that as many people as possible inside government could see it, even if people without security clearances could not. Some officials began asking specific questions at intelligence briefings, knowing the answers would be archived and could be easily unearthed by investigators — including the Senate Intelligence Committee, which in early January announced an inquiry into Russian efforts to influence the election.

At intelligence agencies, there was a push to process as much raw intelligence as possible into analyses, and to keep the reports at a relatively low classification level to ensure as wide a readership as possible across the government — and, in some cases, among European allies. This allowed the upload of as much intelligence as possible to Intellipedia, a secret wiki used by American analysts to share information.

There was also an effort to pass reports and other sensitive materials to Congress.
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so the raw intel was purposely questioned (brought up in meetings) in order for it to be archived,
but also for it to get looked at and turned into analyzed reports. These are the "assessments"

they get shared with Congress, or directly leaked to the press.
Now think of the unmasking requests because of all the new reports.

This is all "Deep State because it's ginning up or manipulated intelligence to hinder Trump
from thawing relations w/Russia -because it's done behind the scenes by non-elected officilals who use classification to hide their activities.
 
Literal Vampire Potbelly Goblin said:
jones does NOT think the deep state is protecting trump are you fucking crazy? Like do you listen to these things or do you just make shit up? Alex jones believes trump is under constant attack from the deep state.

Deep state =

The liar intelligence agencies and most entrenched 3 letters groups that can really pull the strings
The military industrial complex
The bureaucrats
The mainstream media
Washington insider politicains beholden to special interests/globalism agenda

This is what the deep state has always meant. Entrenched power apparatus's in our nation. In the mid century it would have largely been hoover and his thugs. It's not some random term dumbasses can apply however they want.

Thank you for your honest inquiry though in trying to figure me out.
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yes to the red above,and one can say the press (and Congress at times) is a willing partner of DS
 
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