Sentor Flake (R-Az): "I wish the GOP had stood up to birtherism"

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Cypress

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Soul searching Senator Flake? Who are you kidding?

How much sympathy can one have for a political party that started the Iraq War Disaster, almost caused a Second Great Depression, and elected two of the worst five presidents in the nations history, just over the last 16 years?

Not much, not much sympathy at all.

Republican Party should have stood up to Trump’s ‘birther’ movement, Sen. Jeff Flake says

The Republican Party should have cut off Donald Trump’s “birther” movement in its infancy, an anti-Trump Republican senator said Sunday.

Sen. Jeff Flake of Arizona said he regrets that his fellow Republicans kept quiet years ago as Trump rallied his phony conspiracy theory that former President Barack Obama wasn’t born in the United States.

“I wish that we, as a party, would have stood up...when the birtherism thing was going along,” Flake said on NBC News' “Meet the Press.”

“That was particularly ugly.”

Flake also condemned his party for supporting Trump’s “lock her up” campaign rally chants about Hillary Clinton, and for failing to push back on the President’s penchant for spewing false facts and conspiracy theories.

“We shouldn't be the party for jailing your political opponents,” Flake said.

“Anybody at those rallies ought to stand up and say, ‘That's inappropriate. We shouldn't be doing that.’ And I wish we as a party and elected officials would do more of that. Or when particular ugly conspiracy theories go out, or simply fake news, stuff that is just demonstrably false. We ought to stand up and say, ‘Hey, that’s just not right.’”

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/gop-stood-trump-birther-movement-flake-article-1.3388785
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Not to change the subject but as much as you rail on the Iraq war you speak in glowing terms of Hillary Clinton who voted for it. No she was not President at the time she was a Senator. But having been First Lady for eight years she wasn't naive or ignorant to world affairs and what was happening.

So I don't doubt you were against the Iraq War but when you speak out so strongly against Republicans who supported it and give Hillary basically a pass it becomes pretty clear what your real motivation is.
 
cawacko said:
Not to change the subject but as much as you rail on the Iraq war you speak in glowing terms of Hillary Clinton who voted for it. No she was not President at the time she was a Senator. But having been First Lady for eight years she wasn't naive or ignorant to world affairs and what was happening.

So I don't doubt you were against the Iraq War but when you speak out so strongly against Republicans who supported it and give Hillary basically a pass it becomes pretty clear what your real motivation is.
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Been down this road before.

The Iraq War disaster was, is, and always will be George Dumbya Bush's War. He was the commander in chief, he made the decision to invade, and he was responsible for all the military decisions and for the disastrous occupation.

I don't recall ever seeing you say that Republicans should share equal blame for Vietnam with LBJ, even though every single Republican senator voted for the Tonkin Resolution.

So you see Cawacko, we will be using the exact same standard with Dumbya and Iraq that we use with LBJ and Vietnam.
 
Cypress said:
Been down this road before.

The Iraq War disaster was, is, and always will be George Dumbya Bush's War. He was the commander in chief, he made the decision to invade, and he was responsible for all the military decisions and for the disastrous occupation.

I don't recall ever seeing you say that Republicans should share equal blame for Vietnam with LBJ, even though every single Republican senator voted for the Tonkin Resolution.

So you see Cawacko, we will be using the exact same standard with Dumbya and Iraq that we use with LBJ and Vietnam.
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I'm not saying Democrats (plural) I'm saying specifically Hillary Clinton. If a Republican Senator voted for the Vietnam War and I railed against the Vietnam war but said this senator was off the charts good then we would have a comparable senario.
 
As far as the OP goes I agree with Senator Flake. I thought the birtherism stuff was embarrassing. Different strokes for different folks however.

And if being factual is the goal the crash of '08 was much bigger than just Bush.
 
Cypiss ignores the reality that it was a democrat who started the birther movement.

He ignores much of life though, must be nice living in the wilds with crazy squirrels.
 
Flake is spot on.

Republicans didn't stand up to it because they saw it as fun & something that would undermine Obama, even though they knew it wasn't true.
 
cawacko said:
As far as the OP goes I agree with Senator Flake. I thought the birtherism stuff was embarrassing. Different strokes for different folks however.

And if being factual is the goal the crash of '08 was much bigger than just Bush.
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Thanks for the bolded.

And in the interest of equal opportunity, I have heard some whacked out crap from some fringe lefties. This dude in my office was blabbing to me about North Korea, and he said there was no proof that North Korea invaded the south in 1950. That the war very well might have started from American aggression. What do you say to some whacked fringe lefty crap like that?
 
cawacko said:
Not to change the subject but as much as you rail on the Iraq war you speak in glowing terms of Hillary Clinton who voted for it. No she was not President at the time she was a Senator. But having been First Lady for eight years she wasn't naive or ignorant to world affairs and what was happening.

So I don't doubt you were against the Iraq War but when you speak out so strongly against Republicans who supported it and give Hillary basically a pass it becomes pretty clear what your real motivation is.
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Idiotic comment
 
cawacko said:
If one takes a step back and asks how the Republican Party got to where it is today understanding the birtherism movement is a key part of it.
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why?.....you don't really think demmycrats would have been nice to us if it hadn't happened, do you?.....
 
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