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I really think Trump supporters are in for a bit of a rude awakening. He has alienated huge groups of voters.
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I really think Trump supporters are in for a bit of a rude awakening. He has alienated huge groups of voters.
and yet, hillary has no chance in hell winning mississippi in the general.
Colorado? Michigan? Bernie is winning states that are in play in november.
the last polls had Clinton up by 21 points. Do you know how insane that is? 538 had Clinton at >99% to win MI. It's the biggest primary upset since 1984.
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I thought about that. But then concluded that it probably doesn't matter much.
I'd be surprised if any significant # of Bernie voters really went to Trump in the fall. Most are way too far left - even though Trump isn't really a conservative, he's not an appealing candidate for your average Bernie voter.
I know trade policy is a huge deal in states like MI - but I still don't think that will be enough to get lefties to vote for Trump.
this number was reflected in MI last night. 7% of democrats voted trump vs. 3% of republicans switched to vote for hillary.
Maybe the democrats were just trolling though. Still 7% is a very high number for trolls.
yeah I agree not many sanders supporters would vote trump. I do think a lot of sanders supporters might stay home. Clinton is NOT liked, she's viewed as a neocon. (she basically is). I think democrats will have a bigger enthusiasm gap than republicans will. Part of that is just natural... it's hard for a party to win a third term.
christiefan915
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I agree. I'm fairly independent these days, but I'm traditionally a Dem voter. I won't vote for Hillary.
The only thing that will get the kind of voters you're referring to out is the specter of Trump. But I don't underestimate that - I think a lot of enthusiasm will be generated not for Hillary, but for voting against Trump.
right now democrat turn out is way down from 2012 and 2008. Republican turn out is way up. That's a pretty good indicator of enthusiasm levels.
I mean I don't know how the election is going to go. I think it's silly to predict things this far out from the election. A lotttt can change between now and then.
I mean I don't know how the election is going to go. I think it's silly to predict things this far out from the election. A lotttt can change between now and then.
Darth Omar
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Hillary hasn't ?
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I wouldn't say that she has alienated many actual demographic groups. She has certainly alienated those on the right, and many on the left are less than enthusiastic about her.
Other than that, she's a fairly standard, sort of mail-order political candidate. Trump has offended almost everyone except for white guys. And even w/ white guys, if you're disabled, short, or a POW, or know any women, you might be thinking twice about voting for him.
Or a rich either guy, an educated white guy, or a white guy for woman's rights
you ,might see independents go Trump. I'm non-ideological in that one of the last things I look for is a partisan position on matters.
In other words I'll swing all over the map and support good ideas, regardless if they are left or right.
Granted I despise Hillary more then the average voter, and would never vote for her, but as whacked out as Trump is
he is still an alternative to the same old stuff.
In that sense those who have no confidence in the system producing more of anything but sameness would go for Trump,
if Bernie doesn't get it.
Darth Omar
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In other words, it's time to throw the book out lol. The anti-establishment insurrection changes the whole dynamic---on both sides.
It's going to get interesting.
cawacko
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You groaned this Rune? Is that because you share Desh's position that they are only worth their vote? Or are you upset that I called Desh out for her true feelings?
Darth Omar
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They get onto conservatives for the plantation bit but that's the way the left treats the black constituency---or any minority for that matter. Over on another thread Bernie and Hillary were telling the Hispanics what they wanted to hear, knowing full well they can't keep their promises.
Lock-step, monolithic support. That's always the goal.