Salt is now good for you

Nomad said:
I believe that as far as hypertension is concerned, the relationship to high sodium intake has more to do with over eating and weight gain.

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Food with high sodium content TENDS TO BE junk food. Burgers, fries, pizza, lasagna, Buffalo wings, tacos, nachos, burritos.... etc, etc, etc.

People who consume mainly those kinds of foods, especially in their later years, after 50 let's say, are more prone to eat too much of a QUANTITY of those foods, which leads to obesity, which leads to hypertension.

On the other hand, older people who consume less food TEND TO eat a diet of the healthier kinds of foods that don't tempt and invite one to overindulge in them. So because they're eating food that is healthier and they eat less quantities of food, they tend to lose weight which in turn, lowers or eliminates hypertension, irregardless of the amount of sodium contained in the food.

So basically what I'm saying is that the kinds of foods that have a high sodium content, are usually the kinds of foods people tend to gorge on, which leads to obesity, which in turn leads to hypertension. The kinds of foods that have a lower sodium content are the kinds of foods people tend to eat in moderation, which leads to weight loss, which in turn leads to normal blood pressure levels.

And those people who eat healthier, lower sodium foods in lower quantities are also probably more prone to getting adequate exercise too.
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I would say that your argument is valid when discussing general health trends across different cultures. When we hear that certain nationalities typically suffer certain ailments more than others, the first thing to be considered is diet...without question.


The other aspect of this discussion, is basic biology. Sodium causes the body to retain water. Some people deal with it better than others, depending on a number of health/dna related matters. That's probably why we see high sodium diets in cultures that live closer to the equator. Likewise, we see genetic predisposal to salt retention there.


What the OP might have set out to disprove, is a flawed claim for many years that salt causes high blood pressure. This will somewhat true for some, and not true at all for most. Likewise, the claim that excessive salt is 'healthy', is absolute nonsense.
 
Milagro said:
Seriously, just read the bloody article. If you can't understand it then get an intelligent six year old to explain it for you.

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Listen...this basic biology stuff is way above your ability to carry on an intelligent discussion. You should stick to getting your ass kicked in your wind power discussions. You don't even have a basic foundation on this topic.
 
I'm thinking that in reasonably fit people under 50 who get a decent amount of exercise, a diet that is significantly higher in sodium than the recommended levels would have very little effect on blood pressure.

Hypertension is mainly a result of obesity and a sedentary lifestyle.

For the most part, if you keep fit, you can pretty much eat whatever you want in moderation even if it has high sodium content.
 
Althea said:
Listen...this basic biology stuff is way above your ability to carry on an intelligent discussion. You should stick to getting your ass kicked in your wind power discussions. You don't even have a basic foundation on this topic.
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Pathetic, truly pathetic! You couldn't even read the article and understand until you had it explained to you. So save your condescending bullshit for somebody else.

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"It's Time to End the War on Salt
The zealous drive by politicians to limit our salt intake has little basis in science"
By Melinda Wenner Moyer on July 8, 2011

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/its-time-to-end-the-war-on-salt/

"... 2006 American Journal of Medicine study compared the reported daily sodium intakes of 78 million Americans to their risk of dying from heart disease over the course of 14 years. It found that the more sodium people ate, the less likely they were to die from heart disease. And a 2007 study published in the European Journal of Epidemiology followed 1,500 older people for five years and found no association between urinary sodium levels and the risk of coronary vascular disease or death."
 
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