Response to ILA's censorship: More wisdom from Churchill

christiefan915 said:
What about power, control of assets, taxation and subjugation?
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It's all part of Islamist Islam. They even have a word for the religious tax for unbelievers. Note I'm being diplomatic in implying there's a distinction between the two.

So, you don't think radical Muslims kill infidels for religious reasons? That's fascinating. You don't believe them?
 
Buckly J. Ewer said:
Everyone needs...
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MORE GUNS!​
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LOL. Mexicans. Irony.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
It's all part of Islamist Islam. They even have a word for the religious tax for unbelievers. Note I'm being diplomatic in implying there's a distinction between the two.

So, you don't think radical Muslims kill infidels for religious reasons? That's fascinating. You don't believe them?
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I've said many times that people who just want to convert someone for religious reasons are missionaries.

The Sunni-Shia conflict has been going on for more than a thousand years... two branchs of Islam, both believers. They've killed each other more than infidels.

Look at the linked report: http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Countries/IQ/UNAMI_OHCHR_POC_Report_FINAL_6July_10September2014.pdf

The writer says "But when you read the details of the UN report, you realize the common thread in ISIS’ killings of Muslims has nothing to do with Islam. It has to do with absolute power. It doesn’t matter if you are a Sunni cleric or a Christian woman, your choice is to submit to ISIS or die."

Submit to ISIS, not to Islam.

Abu Mohammad al-Adnani announced a caliphate but it wasn't about converting infidels, having a big prayer meeting and singing Kumbaya. It was about grabbing absolute power.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
You 'Trumped' Churchill, I see. He advocated gassing the bad guys with non-lethal gas so as to cause minimal casualties and terrorize them. [kind of the whole point of war is to 'terrorize' the bad guys lol] One of the things that distinguishes us from the barbarians is we try to minimize civilian casualties.

They try to maximize civilian casualties.
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Billy Boy was a marine in Iraq and they deployed white phosphorus in Fallujah, apparently he is ok with that!!
 
christiefan915 said:
I've said many times that people who just want to convert someone for religious reasons are missionaries.

The Sunni-Shia conflict has been going on for more than a thousand years... two branchs of Islam, both believers. They've killed each other more than infidels.

Look at the linked report: http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Countries/IQ/UNAMI_OHCHR_POC_Report_FINAL_6July_10September2014.pdf

The writer says "But when you read the details of the UN report, you realize the common thread in ISIS’ killings of Muslims has nothing to do with Islam. It has to do with absolute power. It doesn’t matter if you are a Sunni cleric or a Christian woman, your choice is to submit to ISIS or die."

Submit to ISIS, not to Islam.

Abu Mohammad al-Adnani announced a caliphate but it wasn't about converting infidels, having a big prayer meeting and singing Kumbaya. It was about grabbing absolute power.
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You're trying mightily to wring a distinction out of a non-existent difference.

Where did the idea for a caliphate come from? Which major religion?
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
You're trying mightily to wring a distinction out of a non-existent difference.

Where did the idea for a caliphate come from? Which major religion?
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I don't understand your point in the first sentence. You guys say ISIS is killing infidels for not converting yet the vast majority they've killed are other Muslims.

"Simply put, al Qaeda has been slaughtering Muslims for years. Islamic clerics, doctors, nurses, women, children, etc. -- you name any type of Muslim, and al Qaeda has butchered them.In fact, a report released in 2009 by the Combating Terrorism Center at West Point documented the people killed by al Qaeda between 2004 and 2008. It found that only 12% of the victims of al Qaeda were Westerners. That suggests that al Qaeda has killed seven times as many Muslims as non-Muslims. And these attacks were just the ones for which al Qaeda had publicly claimed responsibility.
And since that report, al Qaeda in Yemen has engaged in even more vicious attacks on Muslims. Keep in mind that 99% of the population of Yemen is Muslim (65% Sunni and 35% Shia) so with a few exceptions, virtually every person the group kills there is a Muslim.

In December 2014, for example, an al Qaeda bomb killed 15 children and 10 adults when the bus they were on was blown up by an al Qaeda car bomb intended for a competing militia leader in the area. This attack followed another in which al Qaeda sent a suicide bomber into a crowd of protesters in the nation's capital, killing 47 people and injuring 140.

A U.N. report released late last year found that ISIS had killed thousands of Muslims -- both Sunni and Shia -- between July and September of that year. This includes the slayings of three nurses in Mosul, Iraq, because they refused to provide medical care to ISIS fighters. ISIS also killed numerous Sunni imams for refusing to swear allegiance to ISIS, and beheaded another Sunni leader for refusing to support the group.

And the reality is that that's truly what al Qaeda and ISIS are about. They are not about the concept of "submit to Islam or die," as some have claimed. It's submit to ISIS/al Qaeda or die. Both organizations clearly don't care how many Muslims they kill.

...maybe if their hypocrisy is consistently laid bare then it might help all understand the true motivation of these terrorist groups and hopefully even give pause to any Muslims thinking of joining their un-Islamic cause. After all, al Qaeda and ISIS aren't interested in upholding the principles of Islam. They are focused only on power, however many Muslim lives they take.​

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/15/opinion/obeidallah-al-qaeda-hypocrisy/
 
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