Question for JPP epidemiologists

Exact reason? :dunno:

Still, regarding the larger picture I sometimes like to follow the money and connections...one google search at a time. LOL

The Lancet Global Health Commission on High Quality Health Systems in the SDG Era (produces The Lancet)
is supported by funding from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.

Look who signed up in 2016...
from Jan 1, 2016, funded by WHO (including International Agency for Research on Cancer [IARC]);
from April 1, 2016, funded by Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation
https://www.thelancet.com/open-access

The Massachusetts Medical Society and Alliance Charitable Foundation (includes The NEJM) gets gov. grants.
which for 2019-2020 totaled $230k. Bill & Melinda Gates are mega donors. (over the $1mil mark)
http://www.massmed.org/About/Affiliates-and-Subsidiaries/MMS-Alliance/MMS-Alliance/
https://giving.massgeneral.org/donor-recognition/honor-roll/
 
Both studies in question used data from Surgisphere, a little-known company based in Chicago that claimed in the Lancet study to have data from 671 hospitals on six continents. The Lancet paper found that the malaria drugs chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, which had been explored as potential therapies for Covid-19, did not correspond with improved outcomes for patients, and were also associated with higher mortality. The paper in the New England Journal of Medicine reported that blood pressure medications were not associated with worse outcomes in patients with Covid-19. The studies share some of the same authors, including Sapan Desai, who runs Surgisphere. https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/02...bout-data-in-two-studies-related-to-covid-19/
 
Link. I probably won't find anything on "fraudulent study on HCQ" except on RW sites.

Not really. Do some searching if you're really interested and come to your own conclusions. I did. I found most articles all on lefty sites.
Most info revolves around Surgisphere vs The Lancet & NEJM (with Gates & WHO connections)
 
Not really. Do some searching if you're really interested and come to your own conclusions. I did. I found most articles all on lefty sites.
Most info revolves around Surgisphere vs The Lancet & NEJM (with Gates & WHO connections)

This is what I found. They didn't say that HCQ really works, the problem was that the study wasn't open to being peer-reviewed.

June 4, 2020 - The online medical journal The Lancet has apologized to readers after retracting a study that said the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine did not help to curb COVID-19 and might cause death in patients.

The study was withdrawn because the company that provided data would not provide full access to the information for a third-party peer review, saying to do so would violate client agreements and confidentiality requirements, The Lancet said in a statement.

“Based on this development, we can no longer vouch for the veracity of the primary data sources. Due to this unfortunate development, the authors request that the paper be retracted,” The Lancet said in a statement."

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200605/lancet-retracts-hydroxychloroquine-study
 
I've been to WV many times and it's a beautiful state. If fewer of its citizens were trumpers it would be "almost heaven." :)

Yeah, well. Darth is one of those that has one leg a little shorter than the other. (spent a lot of time walking around the Hollows hunting squirrels) :(
 
Link. I probably won't find anything on "fraudulent study on HCQ" except on RW sites.

The two highest-ranking international medical journals, New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) and The Lancet, retracted yesterday simultaneously two papers on COVID-19. The reason is obvious fraud committed by the coauthor Sapan Desai, Chicago-based surgeon and businessman, whose analytics company Surgisphere claimed to have stored clinical data from thousands of patients of hundreds of hospitals all over the world. Which was apparently all a big fake.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/forbet...ppen-if-not-for-covid-19-and-chloroquine/amp/
______________

Lying about data is fraud.

Why would these characters do this? What was their motivation?
 
Oh yeah, it's beautiful down there. I love driving across the bridge over the New River gorge. Next trip I hope to walk across.

Come down on Bridge Day and you can watch the idiots jump off the bridge lol.

And I mean idiots. There’s something not right with these people.
 
The two highest-ranking international medical journals, New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) and The Lancet, retracted yesterday simultaneously two papers on COVID-19. The reason is obvious fraud committed by the coauthor Sapan Desai, Chicago-based surgeon and businessman, whose analytics company Surgisphere claimed to have stored clinical data from thousands of patients of hundreds of hospitals all over the world. Which was apparently all a big fake.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/forbet...ppen-if-not-for-covid-19-and-chloroquine/amp/
______________

Lying about data is fraud.

Why would these characters do this? What was their motivation?

They wanted to get Trump. Why does anyone in the world do anything? Because Trump. Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump Trump. The entire fucking world is out to get Trump.
 
Yeah, well. Darth is one of those that has one leg a little shorter than the other. (spent a lot of time walking around the Hollows hunting squirrels) :(

Um,....have you taken a look around Louisiana ? :whoa:
 
The two highest-ranking international medical journals, New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) and The Lancet, retracted yesterday simultaneously two papers on COVID-19. The reason is obvious fraud committed by the coauthor Sapan Desai, Chicago-based surgeon and businessman, whose analytics company Surgisphere claimed to have stored clinical data from thousands of patients of hundreds of hospitals all over the world. Which was apparently all a big fake.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/forbet...ppen-if-not-for-covid-19-and-chloroquine/amp/
______________

Lying about data is fraud.

Why would these characters do this? What was their motivation?

I think some of the problem also was that a type of 100% blanket condemnation came upon all HCQ use when the
reality was that there were and still are good results when (a) it's used early and (b) used in a 5-day dosage plan.
The major onset of possible side effects were determined to be when it's used more than 30 straight days.
Yet, "they" only wanted patients taking it in conjunction with clinical trials.

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Observational Study of Hydroxychloroquine in Hospitalized Patients with Covid-19
Editor’s Note: This article was published on May 7, 2020, at NEJM.org.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2012410
 
I think some of the problem also was that a type of 100% blanket condemnation came upon all HCQ use when the
reality was that there were and still are good results when (a) it's used early and (b) used in a 5-day dosage plan.
The major onset of possible side effects were determined to be when it's used more than 30 straight days.
Yet, "they" only wanted patients taking it in conjunction with clinical trials.

***********

Observational Study of Hydroxychloroquine in Hospitalized Patients with Covid-19
Editor’s Note: This article was published on May 7, 2020, at NEJM.org.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2012410

They have a love affair with RCT’s.

But those are timely and some quick answers would be nice since we’re constantly being reminded that COVID poses an existential threat.

Simply put: when given in proper dosage, HCQ is as safe as you can expect any pharmaceutical med to be; the ‘studies’ done which indicated HCQ is dangerous were done on late stage COVID patients who were already sick enough to be admitted; and since what frontline doctors advocate is giving HCQ [the cocktail, actually] in early stage infections *before* the onset of severe symptoms—those studies are irrelevant.
 
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