Poor Leadership: Actual American Death Toll May Already Be Over 415,000

[PoliTalker]

"The real number of dead from the crisis could be significantly higher: As many as 215,000 more people than usual died in the U.S. from all causes during the first seven months of 2020, according to CDC figures. The death toll from COVID-19 during the same period was put at about 150,000 by Johns Hopkins.

Researchers suspect some coronavirus deaths were overlooked, while other deaths may have been caused indirectly by the crisis, by creating such turmoil that people with chronic conditions such as diabetes or heart disease were unable or unwilling to get treatment.

Dark, the emergency physician at Baylor, said that before the crisis, “people used to look to the United States with a degree of reverence. For democracy. For our moral leadership in the world. Supporting science and using technology to travel to the moon.”

“Instead,” he said, “what’s really been exposed is how anti-science we’ve become.”"

'Unfathomable': US death toll from coronavirus hits 200,000

We now have upwards of a half million fewer Americans than we would have had, since the coronavirus pandemic began ravaging the nation uninhibited by a focused national strategy for dealing with the crisis, and lacking any kind of comprehensive responsible national leadership.

200,000 confirmed COVID-19 deaths + 215,000 possible COVID-19 deaths = 415,000

 

[PoliTalker]

I place the blame squarely on Trump.

 

[Nordberg]

I place the blame squarely on Trump.

Not fair. You might think he was told early how bad Corona is and that it was very transmissible. As president , he would be allowing Americans to die for political reasons. Does anyone think Trump would do something like that?

 

[Earl]

HORSE MIERDA.

Post proof of the 415,000 deaths by the virus from China that China failed to contain.

 

[Earl]

Not fair. You might think he was told early how bad Corona is and that it was very transmissible. As president , he would be allowing Americans to die for political reasons. Does anyone think Trump would do something like that?

No, I don’t believe that, but I do believe, with evidence, that Democrats, in cities controlled by Democrats, are causing the deaths of Americans

...for political reasons.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

I place the blame squarely on Trump.

Yep, and his selfish cultists who equate simple measures like putting on a mask when you're in public with being shipped to Auschwitz.

You know what makes me infinitely sad? The people here are so nice in person. They smile at you first, are quick to step in and help when someone needs it, are civil, polite, friendly. With few exceptions they also all wear masks in public. It makes you feel good to be part of such a good community of folks.

But then you look at any random COVID news article on local media FB or Twitter pages. The hate, the vitriol, the anger, the vile personal attacks, the misinformation, the mockery of the dead, the lies are horrendous. I have been called terrible things merely for posting medical information about the virus, and how to prevent its spread. A few have even gone to my personal FB page and posted ugly hateful comments on my profile pic (which FB won't let you keep private). Are these the same ppl who smile at you at the grocery store, stop to help you drag a dead deer off the road, rush over to help you put something heavy in the back of your car? It makes me inexpressibly sad to know that we are infested with such human vermin.

This is what the Corruption-in-Chief has done to this country.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Nordberg,

Not fair. You might think he was told early how bad Corona is and that it was very transmissible. As president , he would be allowing Americans to die for political reasons. Does anyone think Trump would do something like that?

The question is how many voters know it.

 

[CFM]

"The real number of dead from the crisis could be significantly higher: As many as 215,000 more people than usual died in the U.S. from all causes during the first seven months of 2020, according to CDC figures. The death toll from COVID-19 during the same period was put at about 150,000 by Johns Hopkins.

Researchers suspect some coronavirus deaths were overlooked, while other deaths may have been caused indirectly by the crisis, by creating such turmoil that people with chronic conditions such as diabetes or heart disease were unable or unwilling to get treatment.

Dark, the emergency physician at Baylor, said that before the crisis, “people used to look to the United States with a degree of reverence. For democracy. For our moral leadership in the world. Supporting science and using technology to travel to the moon.”

“Instead,” he said, “what’s really been exposed is how anti-science we’ve become.”"

'Unfathomable': US death toll from coronavirus hits 200,000

We now have upwards of a half million fewer Americans than we would have had, since the coronavirus pandemic began ravaging the nation uninhibited by a focused national strategy for dealing with the crisis, and lacking any kind of comprehensive responsible national leadership.

200,000 confirmed COVID-19 deaths + 215,000 possible COVID-19 deaths = 415,000

Just fucking say you don't know and stop looking like an idiot, coward.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello ThatOwlWoman,

Yep, and his selfish cultists who equate simple measures like putting on a mask when you're in public with being shipped to Auschwitz.

You know what makes me infinitely sad? The people here are so nice in person. They smile at you first, are quick to step in and help when someone needs it, are civil, polite, friendly. With few exceptions they also all wear masks in public. It makes you feel good to be part of such a good community of folks.

But then you look at any random COVID news article on local media FB or Twitter pages. The hate, the vitriol, the anger, the vile personal attacks, the misinformation, the mockery of the dead, the lies are horrendous. I have been called terrible things merely for posting medical information about the virus, and how to prevent its spread. A few have even gone to my personal FB page and posted ugly hateful comments on my profile pic (which FB won't let you keep private). Are these the same ppl who smile at you at the grocery store, stop to help you drag a dead deer off the road, rush over to help you put something heavy in the back of your car? It makes me inexpressibly sad to know that we are infested with such human vermin.

This is what the Corruption-in-Chief has done to this country.

No big surprise if they won't believe the news and instead make up their own.

 

[PoliTalker]

If the pandemic is not responsible for these extra 215,000 deaths, then what is?

 

[Truth Detector]

Poor Leadership: Actual American Death Toll May Already Be Over 415,000

If you're going to make bullshit up, why stop at 415,000? Why not make it 2 million?

 

[Truth Detector]

I place the blame squarely on Trump.

Of course you do; you're a brain dead, low IQ lying partisan hack. But for anyone with even half a brain, that would exclude loons like you, the blame lies at the feet of the WHO and Communist regime of China.

 

[Wolverine]

"The real number of dead from the crisis could be significantly higher: As many as 215,000 more people than usual died in the U.S. from all causes during the first seven months of 2020, according to CDC figures. The death toll from COVID-19 during the same period was put at about 150,000 by Johns Hopkins.

Researchers suspect some coronavirus deaths were overlooked, while other deaths may have been caused indirectly by the crisis, by creating such turmoil that people with chronic conditions such as diabetes or heart disease were unable or unwilling to get treatment.

Dark, the emergency physician at Baylor, said that before the crisis, “people used to look to the United States with a degree of reverence. For democracy. For our moral leadership in the world. Supporting science and using technology to travel to the moon.”

“Instead,” he said, “what’s really been exposed is how anti-science we’ve become.”"

'Unfathomable': US death toll from coronavirus hits 200,000

We now have upwards of a half million fewer Americans than we would have had, since the coronavirus pandemic began ravaging the nation uninhibited by a focused national strategy for dealing with the crisis, and lacking any kind of comprehensive responsible national leadership.

200,000 confirmed COVID-19 deaths + 215,000 possible COVID-19 deaths = 415,000

Liar only about 13,000 due to covid only, everything else was covid plus! how about being an American for once and putting the blame on China where it belongs!

 

[Truth Detector]

Not fair. You might think he was told early how bad Corona is and that it was very transmissible. As president , he would be allowing Americans to die for political reasons. Does anyone think Trump would do something like that?

Pelosi on February 24th:
"That’s what we’re trying to do today is to say everything is fine here," Pelosi said. "Come because precautions have been taken. The city is on top of the situation.""But that shouldn’t be carried over to Chinatown in San Francisco," she said. "I hope that it’s not that. But all I can say is, 'I’m here.' We feel safe and sound, so many of us coming here."She said there's no reason tourists or locals should be staying away from the area because of coronavirus concerns.

Dr. Fauci on February 29th:
"Right now, at this moment, there is no need to change anything you're doing on a day by day basis. Right now the risk is still low."

Mayor de Blasio on March 5th:
Coronavirus fears shouldn’t keep New Yorkers off subways

Cuomo on March 18th:
“That is not going to happen, shelter in place, for New York City. For any city or county to take an emergency action, the state has to approve it. And I wouldn’t approve shelter in place.”
Flu cases: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

WHO chief says widespread travel bans not needed to beat China virus
February 3, 2020
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-who-idUSKBN1ZX1H3

March 10th “If you are a healthy young person, there is no reason if you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.” ~ Fauci
https://www.forbes.com/sites/douggol.../#294647932d4d

On April 15th
“If you’re willing to take a risk — and you know, everybody has their own tolerance for risks — you could figure out if you want to meet somebody,” said Fauci
He added, “If you want to go a little bit more intimate, well, then that’s your choice regarding a risk.”
https://nypost.com/2020/04/15/fauci-endorses-tinder-hookups-with-a-caveat/


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[Grokmaster]

The Democrats’ 2020 Coronavirus Hindsight

A review of this year’s debates shows they were less concerned than Trump about the pandemic.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-democrats-2020-coronavirus-hindsight-11587317439

 

[Truth Detector]

Yep, and his selfish cultists who equate simple measures like putting on a mask when you're in public with being shipped to Auschwitz.

STFU you lying leftist asshole. You have the credibility of a cockroach.

 

[Truth Detector]

If the pandemic is not responsible for these extra 215,000 deaths, then what is?

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

"The real number of dead from the crisis could be significantly higher: As many as 215,000 more people than usual died in the U.S. from all causes during the first seven months of 2020, according to CDC figures. The death toll from COVID-19 during the same period was put at about 150,000 by Johns Hopkins.

Researchers suspect some coronavirus deaths were overlooked, while other deaths may have been caused indirectly by the crisis, by creating such turmoil that people with chronic conditions such as diabetes or heart disease were unable or unwilling to get treatment.

Dark, the emergency physician at Baylor, said that before the crisis, “people used to look to the United States with a degree of reverence. For democracy. For our moral leadership in the world. Supporting science and using technology to travel to the moon.”

“Instead,” he said, “what’s really been exposed is how anti-science we’ve become.”"

'Unfathomable': US death toll from coronavirus hits 200,000

We now have upwards of a half million fewer Americans than we would have had, since the coronavirus pandemic began ravaging the nation uninhibited by a focused national strategy for dealing with the crisis, and lacking any kind of comprehensive responsible national leadership.

200,000 confirmed COVID-19 deaths + 215,000 possible COVID-19 deaths = 415,000

Your math is wrong. JHopkins lists 150,000 Covid deaths. 215,000 excess CDC deaths include the 150,000 Covid deaths.

A quick look at the numbers from CDC shows that as of the end of August we have about 250,000 more deaths that would be expected if Covid didn't exist.

Digging further into the numbers. Florida and Texas are under counting the deaths in their states by over 5,000 if the excess deaths would be attributed to Covid.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

STFU you lying leftist asshole. You have the credibility of a cockroach.

Poopiehead, I think we can all bow to your superior and likely intimate knowledge when it comes to knowing how credible cockroaches are.

 

[Grokmaster]

Yep, and his selfish cultists who equate simple measures like putting on a mask when you're in public with being shipped to Auschwitz.

You know what makes me infinitely sad? The people here are so nice in person. They smile at you first, are quick to step in and help when someone needs it, are civil, polite, friendly. With few exceptions they also all wear masks in public. It makes you feel good to be part of such a good community of folks.

But then you look at any random COVID news article on local media FB or Twitter pages. The hate, the vitriol, the anger, the vile personal attacks, the misinformation, the mockery of the dead, the lies are horrendous. I have been called terrible things merely for posting medical information about the virus, and how to prevent its spread. A few have even gone to my personal FB page and posted ugly hateful comments on my profile pic (which FB won't let you keep private). Are these the same ppl who smile at you at the grocery store, stop to help you drag a dead deer off the road, rush over to help you put something heavy in the back of your car? It makes me inexpressibly sad to know that we are infested with such human vermin.

This is what the Corruption-in-Chief has done to this country.

AS OPPOSED TO FORCING NURSING HOMES TO TAKE KNOWN COVID CARRIERS...DIRECTLY KILLING TENS OF THOUSANDS of AMERICANS...