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Scalia didn't just say that...


How's it feel to the right to have y'all's beloved conservative SCOTUS's throw you under the bus? :)

I don't think that he is throwing anything, or anyone 'under the bus' here...What ever makes it to him for consideration won't be as simple as a question on a sunday talk show...Scalia is right...We'd have to wait and see...
 
AAA battery is a military weapon. While gunz are not my area of expertise, to the best of my knowledge civilians cannot buy military weapons (those designed specifically for combat).
I have no clue what AKLMNOP-999KMM is -it doesn't sound too healthy,but as I said - the topic has never came up in my discussions.
Nor have mortar rounds etc. but they were found in the Aurora shooters apt (from what i know).
I'll take your word on it. although why in the hell you'd want an anti aircraft gun to shoot ducks....:whoa:

Maybe it's for those who live in Texas. I heard everything is bigger in Texas. :dunno:
 
Rights, in the way our founders saw them, were natural or god given. IF that is the case, when the founders denied rights to blacks they were violating natural, or god's law. It cannot apply to all humans and then you decide that some humans are less than human without violating natural law. Just because you possess a myopic racist view of what constitutes a human does not make you right. That white people viewed black people as less than human is NO LESS wrong than the Nazi's viewing Jews as less than human.

Hold on... I am not arguing it was MY viewpoint that blacks were sub-human, that WAS the prevailing viewpoint of the time. I'm not saying it was right, it obviously wasn't right, we changed the law, we freed the slaves, we passed Civil Rights. The whole entire basis for us being able to change, was the Constitution, and that very moral foundation. But even the perception of blacks in 1865, were not the same as in 1776. At that time, black slaves were akin to cattle, as far as the founders were concerned, some of them even owned slaves.

It's not a "myopic racist view" at all, it was just the way people thought back then. You are trying to apply a modern enlightened and educated viewpoint, where it did not exist. In the colonies at the time, there were only a small handful of people, mostly Quakers, who saw the African slave as anything more than a dumb animal. They 'looked' like people, but they weren't considered part of our species. It wasn't a 'racist' view, it was a complete misunderstanding that we belonged to the same species. Over time, this 'belief' changed, but we can't apply current truths where past beliefs existed, it's intellectually dishonest to do so. We can say they were wrong, and they should have understood what we understand today, but we can't condemn them for what virtually everyone believed at the time.

I've made the comparisons before, to the unborn fetus. Currently, the unborn fetus doesn't have Constitutional rights... now let's say that way off in the future, the SCOTUS rules that they do have the right to live, and every other inalienable right... does that immediately condemn for all eternity, all the people who supported abortion for all those years before? Does that make them monsters and reprehensible characters, because they were 'myopic bigots' or didn't see the truth? I think it is always important to evaluate things in context of the times, and what the prevailing thoughts were then, not what they are now.

The more important thing here, is that we corrected the problem through the very fundamentals of our Constitution. It was so brilliantly written as to allow emancipation, and secure the blessings of liberty for the slaves, and civil rights for their ancestors. The previous system, which relied on rights dictated by the King, may never have accomplished this. It would have been up to the King whether slaves would be free. Considering England was the primary beneficiaries of southern-grown cotton, this would have been highly unlikely.
 
I use the logic that says, 'I have a gun to protect me.' Which translated can only mean that 'I believe that I will be in danger without a gun'. While there are people who seek out danger for the rush it gives them, I very much doubt that the cowards who need great arsenals in their own homes fit into this category.
Of course I might be wrong. It might be that, far from being frightened, these people just like killing things and that they are really, despite evidence to the contrary, quite sane individuals. But then how would I know? Those are feelings that I have never really experienced.

Whereas I would offer that those who live in such a crime free city, such as Hong Kong, must be in fear of their lives; so much so, that they live in gated communities.
 
Everything boils down to dollars and cents and what benefits the human agenda. You're a hunter, a gun-rights proponent, and these two biases have a predictably significant sway with every 'solution' worthy of your consideration. I don't see that shooting them dead is the only solution to the man-made problems of habitat loss, lack of natural predators and urban development. From a purely objective point of view, curtailment of numerous human activities is in order, not more destruction of deer.


With all due respect, I have no wish to engage the discussion with narrow parameters such as your biases demand. You can continue to cite all the stats you want and I will never be convinced that we can and should 'kill' our way into a sustainable balance with nature. The suggestion of such is, frankly, despicable in its arrogance.

Animals once roamed freely, where your residence is.
Have you returned it to nature?
 
If you're interested, look into it. Info is readily available. It can and does work, which is why I brought it up.

Then you would have no problem in teling which animal species it's working on.
That it, unless you've realized that you're full of shit; as usual.
 
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