One nation, under Allah

It should be a good mind-broadening exercise.

"under god" wasn't added till what - the 1950s? nothing sacred about that phrase.

If you don't want kids to be mindless automatons, this kind of thing is good for them - makes them think.

Assuming it happened, of course.
 
tekkychick said:
It should be a good mind-broadening exercise.

"under god" wasn't added till what - the 1950s? nothing sacred about that phrase.

If you don't want kids to be mindless automatons, this kind of thing is good for them - makes them think.

Assuming it happened, of course.
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The Pledge of Allegiance
by Red Skelton
January 14, 1969​

“When I was a small boy in Vincennes, Indiana, I heard, I think, one of the most outstanding speeches I ever heard in my life. I think it compares with the Sermon on the Mount, Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address, and Socrates’ Speech to the Students.

We had just finished reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, and he [Mr. Lasswell, the Principal of Vincennes High School] called us all together, and he says, “Uh, boys and girls, I have been listening to you recite the Pledge of Allegiance all semester, and it seems that it has become monotonous to you. Or, could it be, you do not understand the meaning of each word? If I may, I would like to recite the pledge, and give you a definition for each word:




I - Me, an individual; a committee of one.

Pledge - Dedicate all of my worldly goods to give without self-pity.

Allegiance - My love and my devotion.

To the Flag - Our standard. “Old Glory”; a symbol of courage. And wherever she waves, there is respect, because your loyalty has given her a dignity that shouts “Freedom is everybody's job”.

of the United - That means that we have all come together.

States - Individual communities that have united into forty-eight great states. Forty-eight individual communities with pride and dignity and purpose. All divided by imaginary boundaries, yet united to a common cause, and that’s love of country, of America.

And to the Republic - A Republic: a sovereign state in which power is invested into the representatives chosen by the people to govern. And the government is the people; and it's from the people to the leaders, not from the leaders to the people.

For which it stands

One Nation - Meaning so blessed by God.

Indivisible - Incapable of being divided.

With Liberty - Which is Freedom.The right of power for one to live his own life without fears, threats, or any sort of retaliation.

And Justice - The principle and qualities of dealing fairly with others.

For All - For All. That means, boys and girls, it's as much your country as it is mine.”


Now let me hear you recite the Pledge of Allegiance:

I pledge allegiance
to the Flag of the United States of America,
and to the Republic, for which it stands;
one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country, and two words have been added to the Pledge of Allegiance: Under God. Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer, and that be eliminated from our schools, too?”

Good nite, Good bye and God Bless.
 
Again... Is the concern that the pledge of allegiance was translated into a foreign language as part of a cultural learning experience at school?
 
maineman said:
Again... Is the concern that the pledge of allegiance was translated into a foreign language as part of a cultural learning experience at school?
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When I was in high school we went on a field trip to the then communist Russia. I wonder if Bravo thinks that made us all commies?
 
maineman said:
Again... Is the concern that the pledge of allegiance was translated into a foreign language as part of a cultural learning experience at school?
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Apparently some don't like it in any language but English

From original link:
“(Nuha) Kapatayes is one among a couple dozen members of the student-initiated Cultural Arms Club, which seeks to “destroy the barriers, embrace the cultures” that exist at not just Rocky Mountain High School, but also within the community. Members in November recited the Pledge in Spanish, sparking intense debate about whether saying the words of the Pledge in any language other than English was unpatriotic.
Despite “rude” comments from classmates who disagreed with the November recital and anticipated “resistance” this week, Cultural Arms Club members decided to go forward with translating the Pledge into Arabic. They have plans for translating it into American Sign Language, Korean and possibly Chinese.
“No matter what language it’s said in, pledging your allegiance to the United States is the same in every language,” said sophomore CAC member Skyler Bowden.”
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Sounds pretty cool to me.
 
“No matter what language it’s said in, pledging your allegiance to the United States is the same in every language,”


Smart kids.
 
Allah HU Akbar!

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NOVA said:
If it makes a difference to you, try this....http://tinyurl.com/mru9kb9
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One article claims it's just a couple dozen students and the other implies it was the ENTIRE SCHOOL...yes, the site does make a difference.

Oh, and btw...

One tiny point you hate filled racists keep forgetting:

No matter what language it’s said in, pledging your allegiance to the United States is the same in every language.

Only racists have a problem with this.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
One article claims it's just a couple dozen students and the other implies it was the ENTIRE SCHOOL...yes, the site does make a difference.

Oh, and btw...

One tiny point you hate filled racists keep forgetting:

No matter what language it’s said in, pledging your allegiance to the United States is the same in every language.

Only racists have a problem with this.
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Is Islam a race? I'm probably wrong here and this is just semantics but I thought hating a religion made one a bigot not a racist.

And don't you hate Christians Zap? Again, to each his own but is hating Christians any different than hating Muslims?
 
So... After foolishly posting this link thinking he had a major gotcha moment, bravo has apparently just decided to crawl under a rock rather than just admit he fucked up.... Part of the long-lasting bravo legacy.
 
cawacko said:
Is Islam a race? I'm probably wrong here and this is just semantics but I thought hating a religion made one a bigot not a racist.

And don't you hate Christians Zap? Again, to each his own but is hating Christians any different than hating Muslims?
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I made a mistake, yes, those who hate Islam are bigots.

But no, I don't hate Christians.

I hate phony Christians who hide behind their religion while doing the exact opposite of what the Bible teaches and attacking others for their choice of religion.
 
Here's a few things that I picked up during my travels throughout the Middle East that, if translated into Arabic, would probably offer better insight to children as to the true nature of Arab culture:

1. "Which way to the synagogue?"
2. "Why, yes, I believe Jesus is the son of Allah!"
3. "Do you serve pork chops here?"
4. "I've been reading the ninth sura of the Quran, and I've come to the conclusion that Allah is just full of crap here!"
5. "Good morning, Imam. Say, I'm feeling kind of homosexual right now, and I was wondering if you could pray to Allah for forgiveness on my behalf."
6. "Oy vey!"
On a more serious note, "Allah" is simply the Arabic word for God. But realistically, I don't believe the Islamic citizen of any Arab nation would ever be allowed to pledge allegiance to something so secular as a flag. It would be considered idolatry.
 
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