One health care reform, indivisible

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http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/08/one-health-care-reform-indivisible/


January 8, 2010, 12:11 pm One health care reform, indivisible

Jonathan Chait reads Peggy Noonan, so I don’t have to:
The public in 2009 would have been happy to see a simple bill that mandated insurance companies offer coverage without respect to previous medical conditions. The administration could have had that—and the victory of it—last winter.
Instead, they were greedy for glory.
Chait explains why this is nonsense. But let me explain at fuller length, because this is one of the great misunderstood keys to the whole health care debate.
Start with the proposition that we don’t want our fellow citizens denied coverage because of preexisting conditions — which is a very popular position, so much so that even conservatives generally share it, or at least pretend to.
So why not just impose community rating — no discrimination based on medical history?
Well, the answer, backed up by lots of real-world experience, is that this leads to an adverse-selection death spiral: healthy people choose to go uninsured until they get sick, leading to a poor risk pool, leading to high premiums, leading even more healthy people dropping out.
So you have to back community rating up with an individual mandate: people must be required to purchase insurance even if they don’t currently think they need it.
But what if they can’t afford insurance? Well, you have to have subsidies that cover part of premiums for lower-income Americans.
In short, you end up with the health care bill that’s about to get enacted. There’s hardly anything arbitrary about the structure: once the decision was made to rely on private insurers rather than a single-payer system — and look, single-payer wasn’t going to happen — it had to be more or less what we’re getting. It wasn’t about ideology, or greediness, it was about making the thing work.
 
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/08/one-health-care-reform-indivisible/


January 8, 2010, 12:11 pm One health care reform, indivisible

Jonathan Chait reads Peggy Noonan, so I don’t have to:
The public in 2009 would have been happy to see a simple bill that mandated insurance companies offer coverage without respect to previous medical conditions. The administration could have had that—and the victory of it—last winter.
Instead, they were greedy for glory.
Chait explains why this is nonsense. But let me explain at fuller length, because this is one of the great misunderstood keys to the whole health care debate.
Start with the proposition that we don’t want our fellow citizens denied coverage because of preexisting conditions — which is a very popular position, so much so that even conservatives generally share it, or at least pretend to.
So why not just impose community rating — no discrimination based on medical history?
Well, the answer, backed up by lots of real-world experience, is that this leads to an adverse-selection death spiral: healthy people choose to go uninsured until they get sick, leading to a poor risk pool, leading to high premiums, leading even more healthy people dropping out.
So you have to back community rating up with an individual mandate: people must be required to purchase insurance even if they don’t currently think they need it.
But what if they can’t afford insurance? Well, you have to have subsidies that cover part of premiums for lower-income Americans.
In short, you end up with the health care bill that’s about to get enacted. There’s hardly anything arbitrary about the structure: once the decision was made to rely on private insurers rather than a single-payer system — and look, single-payer wasn’t going to happen — it had to be more or less what we’re getting. It wasn’t about ideology, or greediness, it was about making the thing work.

You're signature is contrary to the very history of the foundation of our nation, as well as several others.
 
great comment:

Right. Of course. Your team is never ideological or greedy. The other team is nothing but ideological and greedy. Paul, I really wish I could live in your world. It must be difficult for you to even communicate with simpletons like us.

so watermark.....what does this h/c bill do for us? without a public option, this bill is worthless and is a great boon to insurance companies.

you run around the board decrying death and anti american this or that to those who don't support this bill.....tell us in your own words, not krugman's words.....why this bill is good

btw, where is ib1
 
great comment:



so watermark.....what does this h/c bill do for us? without a public option, this bill is worthless and is a great boon to insurance companies.

you run around the board decrying death and anti american this or that to those who don't support this bill.....tell us in your own words, not krugman's words.....why this bill is good

btw, where is ib1

It is frustrating communicating with you simpletons.
 
The public option wouldn't have made much of a difference. Healthcare insurance company profits aren't that big of a deal and cutting them isn't going to shave much off of healthcare cost inflation.
 
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