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romney is nothing but a distraction. he was virtually, if not actually, the last place gop candidate in '08 and now he is the presumptive nominee. those with true power have chosen obama, romney know this. that is why he chose ryan.

yeah...tinfoil hat that, but you know it is true.
 
The Repubs have fallen apart. I just watched an interview on 60 Minutes with Romney and Ryan. I gave up counting the number of times they said, "Get the country back on track." Same tired, worn out ideas. Instead of moving ahead they're catering to people living in the past who want to return to the past.

"Vote Republican and bring back the good times!" :)



Vote Republican and bring back the good times!
 
LOL

High unemployment, economy sucks, but as long as Obama keeps sending those welfare payments, you will vote for him.
 
RazorX said:
LOL

High unemployment, economy sucks, but as long as Obama keeps sending those welfare payments, you will vote for him.
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You really dont understand how much welfair adds to the economy.If welfair ended today most grocery stores would have to close their doors.
 
It looks like it, but prognostigation is a tricky game. Once you proclam something a sure bet, it usually will not happen.
 
enough said:
romney is nothing but a distraction. he was virtually, if not actually, the last place gop candidate in '08 and now he is the presumptive nominee. those with true power have chosen obama, romney know this. that is why he chose ryan.

yeah...tinfoil hat that, but you know it is true.
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You're right .. those with true power have chosen Obama as I have been saying all along .. but, "those with true power" is Wall Street, the 1%, and the corporate elite.

Are you comfortable supporting a Wall Street/1%ter/corporate candidate?
 
blackascoal said:
You're right .. those with true power have chosen Obama as I have been saying all along .. but, "those with true power" is Wall Street, the 1%, and the corporate elite.

Are you comfortable supporting a Wall Street/1%ter/corporate candidate?
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If it becomes clear that the President will be re-elected, I will go searching for a more liberal canidate that I am more comfortable with.
 
blackascoal said:
You're right .. those with true power have chosen Obama as I have been saying all along .. but, "those with true power" is Wall Street, the 1%, and the corporate elite.

Are you comfortable supporting a Wall Street/1%ter/corporate candidate?
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It is hard to imagine how you can get more of a Wall Street insider than Romney.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
It is hard to imagine how you can get more of a Wall Street insider than Romney.
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You could be Obama ..

Cronyism, political donations behind Obama, Holder failure to charge bankers after meltdown

excerpts --

Despite Obama’s and Holder’s “heated rhetoric” against Wall Street (in 2009, Obama blamed the 2008 financial collapse on “reckless speculation of bankers” while Holder charged that “unscrupulous executives, Ponzi scheme operators and common criminals alike have targeted the pocketbooks and retirement accounts of middle class Americans”), they haven’t “filed a single criminal charge against any top executive of an elite financial institution,” GAI wrote in its report, exclusively obtained by The Daily Caller.

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The Obama administration’s decision to not appoint an independent counsel to investigate the MF Global scandal, despite more than 60 members of Congress demanding it, also reeks of cronyism, the GAI report details. Obama bundler and former Democratic New Jersy Gov. Jon Corzine was at the center of MF Global.

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“No other modern administration has staffed the DOJ with big money fundraisers,” GAI wrote. “Holder bundled $50,000 for Obama’s 2008 campaign, while Perrelli, West, and Mason all bundled $500,000 for the campaign. West also helped Obama raised an estimated $65 million in California.”

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In the report, GAI details how the George W. Bush and Bill Clinton administrations both actually took down financial criminals — unlike the Obama administration. Between 2002 and 2008, for instance, GAI points out how a Bush administration task force “obtained over 1,300 corporate fraud convictions, including those of over 130 corporate vice presidents and over 200 CEOs and corporate presidents.”

“Clinton’s DOJ prosecuted over 1,800 S&L [savings and loans] executives, senior officials, and directors, and over 1,000 of them were sent to jail,” GAI adds.

But, despite having “promised more of the same,” especially in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis, the Obama administration’s DOJ has not brought criminal charges against a single major Wall Street executive.

The Bush and Clinton administrations’ track records on prosecuting white-collar crime, and the Obama administration’s failure to do so, Schweizer said, is “evidence that this has less to do with some sort of partisan or philosophical issue.”

“I think it has to do with the fact that, previously, under Clinton or under Bush, you had senior people who were prosecutors — who not only had previous experience, but were actually active prosecutors,” Schweizer said. “The problem that you have at the Obama Justice Department, particularly bizarre at this time and place where we were coming off the financial crisis, is that they really have no recent prosecutors at the top of the Justice Department. They’re all white-collar criminal defense attorneys. That’s what’s so troubling. One would think that, given the financial crisis, and the widespread conduct, they would have at least carved out some senior positions for prosecutors who could really drill down on this. That’s what Clinton did, and that’s what Bush did.”

As one of many examples of where Holder’s DOJ could have gone after Wall Street but failed, GAI cites how Michigan Democratic Sen. Carl Levin “proposed that the DOJ criminally investigate Goldman Sachs for its handling of the Abacus 2007-AC1 transaction” in an April 2011 Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations report. In that 635-page report, Levin and his staff — who are Democrats — recommended that Holder’s DOJ investigate potential crimes committed. Levin’s subcommittee and the Federal Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission both made formal referrals to the DOJ for investigation – and Forbes magazine ran an article with the headline, “Criminal Charges Loom for Goldman Sachs After Scathing Report.”

Nothing happened. But, over the course of the rest of 2011, Obama went on a massive fundraising drive down Wall Street.

“By the fall of 2011, Obama had collected more donations from Wall Street than any of the Republican candidates, and employees at Bain Capital had donated more than twice as much to Obama as they did to [Mitt] Romney, the firm’s founder,” GAI wrote in its report.

“In the weeks before and after the Senate report on Goldman Sachs, several Goldman executives and their families made contributions to Obama’s Victory Fund and related entities and some contributors maxed out at the largest individual donation allowed, $35,800.”

“Five senior Goldman Sachs executives wrote more than $130,000 in checks to the Obama Victory Fund,” GAI continued. “Two of these executives had never donated to Obama before and had previously only given small donations to individual candidates.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2915638/posts

There is much more ..

Wall St. Made More Money In 2.5 Years Of Obama Than 8 Years Of Bush
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...t_25_years_of_obama_than_8_years_of_bush.html

Yet no prosecutions after the collapse???

Face it .. Obama is owned by Wall Street.
 
EXCERPT:

AFF offers no evidence of a quid pro quo, either. The ad does display a headline (“Has Obama Sold Out to the Banks?”) from a May 6, 2011, Daily Beast/Newsweek article, which discusses campaign contributions and documents the “revolving door” between industry and government. But, again, there’s no proof that campaign contributions influenced any specific decisions at the Justice Department.

And the Obama administration hasn’t hesitated to go after Wall Street big shots who were Democratic donors in other investigations.

Hedge fund billionaire Raj Rajaratnam was sentenced in October to 11 years in jail for insider trading. He and his wife, Asha, have made $119,000 in campaign donations since the mid-1990s, mostly to Democrats, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. That includes $30,800 to the Obama Victory Fund and $2,300 to Obama For America in 2008, federal campaign finance records show.

Rajat Gupta, a former managing director at McKinsey & Company and former Goldman Sachs board member, was also a major Democratic donor. Among his donations in 2008: $2,500 to Obama for America and $2,500 to the Obama Victory Fund. His trial on multiple securities fraud is scheduled to begin May 21.
 
Jarod said:
If it becomes clear that the President will be re-elected, I will go searching for a more liberal canidate that I am more comfortable with.
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I'm afraid Lenin is long dead, Jarhead...and although the Communist Party has an unparalleled history in the progressive movement of the United States, they don't have a candidate.........but keep searching
 
bravo said:
I'm afraid Lenin is long dead, Jarhead...and although the Communist Party has an unparalleled history in the progressive movement of the United States, they don't have a candidate.........but keep searching
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I was hoping for someone like Thomas Jefferson.
 
Socrtease said:
EXCERPT:

AFF offers no evidence of a quid pro quo, either. The ad does display a headline (“Has Obama Sold Out to the Banks?”) from a May 6, 2011, Daily Beast/Newsweek article, which discusses campaign contributions and documents the “revolving door” between industry and government. But, again, there’s no proof that campaign contributions influenced any specific decisions at the Justice Department.

And the Obama administration hasn’t hesitated to go after Wall Street big shots who were Democratic donors in other investigations.

Hedge fund billionaire Raj Rajaratnam was sentenced in October to 11 years in jail for insider trading. He and his wife, Asha, have made $119,000 in campaign donations since the mid-1990s, mostly to Democrats, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. That includes $30,800 to the Obama Victory Fund and $2,300 to Obama For America in 2008, federal campaign finance records show.

Rajat Gupta, a former managing director at McKinsey & Company and former Goldman Sachs board member, was also a major Democratic donor. Among his donations in 2008: $2,500 to Obama for America and $2,500 to the Obama Victory Fund. His trial on multiple securities fraud is scheduled to begin May 21.
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Obama's failure to prosecute Wall Street is well-documented good brother. I challenge you to debate this .. in a friendly way of course. :0)

Why Can't Obama Bring Wall Street to Justice?

•Obama’s 2009 White House summit with finance titans, in which the president warned that only he was standing "between you and the pitchforks"

•Why, despite widespread outrage, financial-fraud prosecutions by the Department of Justice are at 20-year lows

•Attorney General Eric Holder’s lucrative ties to a top-tier law firm whose marquee clients include some of finance’s worst offenders

•How Obama’s trumpeted “task force” for investigating risky mortgage lenders—announced in this year’s State of the Union speech—is badly understaffed and has yet to produce any discernible progress

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Obama came into office vowing to end business as usual, and, in the gray post-crash dawn of 2009, nowhere did a reckoning with justice seem more due than in the financial sector. The public was shaken, and angry, and Wall Street seemed oblivious to its own culpability, defending extravagant pay bonuses even while accepting a taxpayer bailout. Obama channeled this anger, and employed its rhetoric, blaming the worldwide economic collapse on "the reckless speculation of bankers." Two months into his presidency, Obama summoned the titans of finance to the White House, where he told them, "My administration is the only thing between you and the pitchforks."

The bankers may have found the president's tone unsettling. Candidate Obama had been their guy, accepting vast amounts of Wall Street campaign money for his victories over Hillary Clinton and John McCain (Goldman Sachs executives ponied up $1 million, more than any other private source of funding in 2008). Obama far outraised his Republican rival, John McCain, on Wall Street--around $16 million to $9 million. As it turned out, Obama apparently actually meant what he said at that White House meeting--his administration effectively would stand between Big Finance and anything like a severe accounting. To the dismay of many of Obama's supporters, nearly four years after the disaster, there has not been a single criminal charge filed by the federal government against any top executive of the elite financial institutions.

"It's perplexing at best," says Phil Angelides, the Democratic former California treasurer who chaired the bipartisan Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission. "It's deeply troubling at worst."

Strikingly, federal prosecutions overall have risen sharply under Obama, increasing dramatically in such areas as civil rights and health-care fraud. But according to the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse, a data-gathering organization at Syracuse University, financial-fraud prosecutions by the Department of Justice are at 20-year lows.

"There hasn't been any serious investigation of any of the large financial entities by the Justice Department, which includes the FBI," says William Black, an associate professor of economics and law at the University of Missouri, Kansas City, who, as a government regulator in the 1980s, helped clean up the S&L mess. Black, who is a Democrat, notes that the feds dealt with the S&L crisis with harsh justice, bringing more than a thousand prosecutions, and securing a 90 percent conviction rate. The difference between the government's response to the two crises, Black says, is a matter of will, and priorities. "You need heads on the pike," he says. "The first President Bush's orders were to get the most prominent, nastiest frauds, and put their heads on pikes as a demonstration that there's a new sheriff in town."

Obama delivered heated rhetoric, but his actions signaled different priorities. Had Obama wanted to strike real fear in the hearts of bankers, he might have appointed former special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald or some other fire-breather as his attorney general. Instead, he chose Eric Holder, a former Clinton Justice official who, after a career in government, joined the Washington office of Covington & Burling, a top-tier law firm with an elite white-collar defense unit. The move to Covington, and back to Justice, is an example of Washington's revolving-door ritual, which, for Holder, has been lucrative--he pulled in $2.1 million as a Covington partner in 2008, and $2.5 million (including deferred compensation) when he left the firm in 2009.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/05/06/why-can-t-obama-bring-wall-street-to-justice.html
 
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