Obama will observe Confederate Memorial

And how about you get this through your thick skull... I have never in my life, attempted to change the fact that slavery was wrong! Where the fuck did you get that from my words? Do you comprehend what "deplorable" and "horrible" mean? Do those sound like words I would use, if I were trying to make slavery not wrong? Here's the deal, you want to assign viewpoint to me, because you aren't honest enough to debate the issues straight up, you have to create a lie and distortion of my position, so that you can appear to have the moral high ground. I have, not once, said that slavery was not wrong, that slavery was justified, or that slavery was acceptable in any way. Nothing I have ever posted, even comes remotely close to saying that. Why do you continue to insist on lying? It's not like people can't fucking read the thread! You love repeating stuff already addressed.....without changing a damned thing. Let me spell it out for you....the CONFEDERACY WAS WRONG. Slavery was an integral part in the economic support of the Confederacy. To try and diminish, justify, trivialize, minimalize, sidebar this fact is to be dishonest with regards to history. People trying to separate slavery from the confederacy are deluding themselves...much as any German that praises the advancements of German society under the Nazis without acknowledging the Holocaust, or South Africans patting themselves on the back without acknowledging partheid.



Yes, the North was guilty too! That IS the point! All of this false outrage at The South and Southerners, all of this hyped up exaggerated bullshit you want to throw out there and act like it's fact, when the responsibility is ALL OF OURS TO SHARE! The only "mindset" in play here, is the bigoted and twisted mindset of people like you, who honestly believe all Southerners are racists who are pissed they lost the Civil War, and would gladly advocate slavery if given the chance! You have cast your prejudice over an entire region of the country, and people who weren't even a twinkle in their daddy's eye, when the Civil War was fought. And it would be one thing if The South were solely responsible for slavery in America, but that is simply not the case! That is the MYTH you keep trying to build, so that you can absolve yourself and your region from any of the blame, and I refuse to allow you to escape your share of the blame for slavery. Here's the deal, bunky....do your homework and see what main States were shipping in, trading, selling slaves as a commodity during the US slavery eras. Hint: it wasn't the "north". http://www.sonofthesouth.net/slavery/slave-maps/slave-census.htm Apologist for the Southern slave trade may well be right to point out the racial hypocrisy of the North with regards to segregation and job discrimination, but that in no way shape or form justify's giving any type of kudos to the Confederacy.


Actually, only 2% of the Southern population owned slaves. Not a single Confederate soldier ever owned a slave. Yes, the Southern economy, as well as the American economy was tied to King Cotton! It was our leading export crop as a nation. This was a large part of the reason slavery existed in the first place, and it was set into American law by US courts and US politicians, NOT THE CONFEDERATE STATES! If you want to "BLAME" slavery on someone, you must go to the source, the people who made slavery legal in America for a century before the CSA was even thought of. And there you go..."it's wasn't that bad because only 2% owned slaves". Well bunky, that's BULLSHIT. The US Historical Census Data will get you up to speed on this. By 1860 slaves made up 49% of the lower South, 29% of the Upper South and 15% of border Southern States population. In Mississippi & S. Carolina 1/2 of all families owned slaves.
No one is trying to "trivialize" slavery, it was horrible and despicable, but being totally dishonest about why it existed and who advocated for it, is not going to make it any less horrible.
I wasn't being dishonest about anything.....what's pissing you off is that you just don't like the reality of the Confederacy in it's totality being pointed out.
 
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