Obama tax cut

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For those who think everyone's income taxes went up after Obama took office.

HUNTERSVILLE, N.C. — What if a president cut Americans’ income taxes by $116 billion and nobody noticed?

It is not a rhetorical question. At Pig Pickin’ and Politickin’, a barbecue-fed rally organized here last week by a Republican women’s club, a half-dozen guests were asked by a reporter what had happened to their taxes since President Obama took office.

“Federal and state have both gone up,” said Bob Paratore, 59, from nearby Charlotte, echoing the comments of others.

After further prodding — including a reminder that a provision of the stimulus bill had cut taxes for 95 percent of working families by changing withholding rates — Mr. Paratore’s memory was jogged.

“You’re right, you’re right,” he said. “I’ll be honest with you: it was so subtle that personally, I didn’t notice it.”

Few people apparently did. In a troubling sign for Democrats as they head into the midterm elections, their signature tax cut of the past two years, which decreased income taxes by up to $400 a year for individuals and $800 for married couples, has gone largely unnoticed.

In a New York Times/CBS News Poll last month, fewer than one in 10 respondents knew that the Obama administration had lowered taxes for most Americans. Half of those polled said they thought that their taxes had stayed the same, a third thought that their taxes had gone up, and about a tenth said they did not know. As Thom Tillis, a Republican state representative, put it as the dinner wound down here, “This was the tax cut that fell in the woods — nobody heard it.”


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This is one of the greatest tributes you can give to the TEA propoganda.

Politics isn't about the truth. It's about who can shout the loudest, and wear the funniest hats.
 
That's nice he cut taxes for most "working families". Discriminating against single people again.
 
To use an old cliche... It's the spending, stupid...

Even the meanest of uneducated buffoons seems to understand that even if you attempt to cut taxes into increased spending, that spending drives taxation, in short, even people you believe are stupid realize that we'll have to pay this piper at some point.
 
This is one of the greatest tributes you can give to the TEA propoganda.

Politics isn't about the truth. It's about who can shout the loudest, and wear the funniest hats.

Actually, the tax cut was, by design, hard to notice. Faced with evidence that people were more likely to save than spend the tax rebate checks they received during the Bush administration, the Obama administration decided to take a different tack: it arranged for less tax money to be withheld from people’s paychecks.

LOL....how is that egg on your face onceler...:clink:
 
To use an old cliche... It's the spending, stupid...

Even the meanest of uneducated buffoons seems to understand that even if you attempt to cut taxes into increased spending, that spending drives taxation, in short, even people you believe are stupid realize that we'll have to pay this piper at some point.


It's the spending by a Democratic president on people and things that Republicans deem unworthy is more like it.
 
When Bush turned the surplus into a deficit I don't recall hearing the Pubs crying.

Now all of a sudden we have to stop spending and tax cuts are bad?
Then you weren't here. It was the first thing republicans mentioned when asked what they didn't like about Bush, the next was social spending (pill bill), I personally first mentioned nation-building wars, then the spending spree, the pill bill, then illegal immigration. Spending like his is what drives people in the TEA party to almost 100% support a balanced budget amendment.
 
Then you weren't here. It was the first thing republicans mentioned when asked what they didn't like about Bush, the next was social spending (pill bill), I personally first mentioned nation-building wars, then the spending spree, the pill bill, then illegal immigration. Spending like his is what drives people in the TEA party to almost 100% support a balanced budget amendment.

I stand corrected, then.

Which government programs are you willing to cut, and by how much?
 
Then you weren't here. It was the first thing republicans mentioned when asked what they didn't like about Bush, the next was social spending (pill bill), I personally first mentioned nation-building wars, then the spending spree, the pill bill, then illegal immigration. Spending like his is what drives people in the TEA party to almost 100% support a balanced budget amendment.


Funny I didn't hear jack shit about a balanced budget amendment when Republicans ran the zoo.

It's all about tax cuts. As long as taxes are cut the Tea Party freaks don't give a shit about anything else. Bitching about spending is only the means to an end, not an end in and of itself.
 
Funny I didn't hear jack shit about a balanced budget amendment when Republicans ran the zoo.

It's all about tax cuts. As long as taxes are cut the Tea Party freaks don't give a shit about anything else. Bitching about spending is only the means to an end, not an end in and of itself.
Bull, you can find that even on this site... I've been talking about it since the early 90s. I had, and have never had, any compunction against speaking out against stupid spending. My main objection to Obama was that he promised still more spending, and boy has he and the supermajority Congress delivered!
 
Bull, you can find that even on this site... I've been talking about it since the early 90s. I had, and have never had, any compunction against speaking out against stupid spending. My main objection to Obama was that he promised still more spending, and boy has he and the supermajority Congress delivered!

So, again, which spending would you cut, and by how much?
 
Bull, you can find that even on this site... I've been talking about it since the early 90s. I had, and have never had, any compunction against speaking out against stupid spending. My main objection to Obama was that he promised still more spending, and boy has he and the supermajority Congress delivered!


You might have been talking about it, but no one in Congress was and near as I recall, no one was taking to streets clamoring for one notwithstanding that the Republicans ran the zoo. Moreover, all that horseshit in the 90s about balanced budgets was replaced with the "give the people their money back" (i.e. tax cuts) once the goal of balanced budgets was actually achieved (at least according to gov't accounting).
 
So, again, which spending would you cut, and by how much?
In order to get this under control we'll need to cut into nearly every program we have, it would be tough. I'd certainly cut military spending, especially overseas. It is time to let Europe protect themselves instead of relying on our presence to protect them. I'd cut programs where we give states their own money back with strings attached to force them into one homogeneous nation. I'd certainly get rid of the trillions we are going to spend on the malformation of health care.

Anyway, those are just a few of the programs that need to be cut in order to end our immoral theft of funds from future generations built on loans we never intend to pay in our generation.
 
Bull, you can find that even on this site... I've been talking about it since the early 90s. I had, and have never had, any compunction against speaking out against stupid spending. My main objection to Obama was that he promised still more spending, and boy has he and the supermajority Congress delivered!

"Here’s the narrative you hear everywhere: President Obama has presided over a huge expansion of government, but unemployment has remained high. And this proves that government spending can’t create jobs.

Here’s what you need to know: The whole story is a myth. There never was a big expansion of government spending. In fact, that has been the key problem with economic policy in the Obama years: we never had the kind of fiscal expansion that might have created the millions of jobs we need.

Ask yourself: What major new federal programs have started up since Mr. Obama took office? Health care reform, for the most part, hasn’t kicked in yet, so that can’t be it. So are there giant infrastructure projects under way? No. Are there huge new benefits for low-income workers or the poor? No. Where’s all that spending we keep hearing about? It never happened.

To be fair, spending on safety-net programs, mainly unemployment insurance and Medicaid, has risen — because, in case you haven’t noticed, there has been a surge in the number of Americans without jobs and badly in need of help. And there were also substantial outlays to rescue troubled financial institutions, although it appears that the government will get most of its money back. But when people denounce big government, they usually have in mind the creation of big bureaucracies and major new programs. And that just hasn’t taken place."


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In order to get this under control we'll need to cut into nearly every program we have, it would be tough. I'd certainly cut military spending, especially overseas. It is time to let Europe protect themselves instead of relying on our presence to protect them. I'd cut programs where we give states their own money back with strings attached to force them into one homogeneous nation. I'd certainly get rid of the trillions we are going to spend on the malformation of health care.

Anyway, those are just a few of the programs that need to be cut in order to end our immoral theft of funds from future generations built on loans we never intend to pay in our generation.

You've been talking about this since the 90's?

I'd like to see more specifics.

Got a list?

How much would you cut from each?
 
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