Not Even Hiding It: 148 Democrats Go Against Barring Non-Citizens from Voting

Earl

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This is pure sedition and total disrespect for the Republic that is how fallen these democrats have gone.

Citizenship means nothing to these democrats.



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Western Journal

Not Even Hiding It: 148 Democrats Go Against Barring Non-Citizens from Voting

Jack Davis

June 15, 2025

Excerpt:

Despite an overwhelming majority of House Democrats opposing the measure, the House on Tuesday moved to overturn a law in Washington, D.C., that allows non-citizens to vote in local elections.

The bill passed 266-148, according to Fox News. One Democrat voted “present,” while 56 supported the bill.
 
This is pure sedition and total disrespect for the Republic that is how fallen these democrats have gone.

Citizenship means nothing to these democrats.



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Western Journal

Not Even Hiding It: 148 Democrats Go Against Barring Non-Citizens from Voting

Jack Davis

June 15, 2025

Excerpt:

Despite an overwhelming majority of House Democrats opposing the measure, the House on Tuesday moved to overturn a law in Washington, D.C., that allows non-citizens to vote in local elections.

The bill passed 266-148, according to Fox News. One Democrat voted “present,” while 56 supported the bill.
Have you been following VDH's claims that Citizenship is under wide assault?
 
Right-wing trumpers are so full of shit.

Twisting the facts on divisive issues for the benefit of their low information voting base.

From the National Immigration Forum:

On April 12, 2024, former President Donald Trump and House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-Louisiana) announced that House Republicans would soon introduce a bill to ban noncitizens[1] from voting in federal elections.

The truth, however, is that noncitizens have been barred from voting in federal elections since 1924. In addition, in 1996, Congress made noncitizen voting in federal elections a crime punishable by fines and imprisonment. Accordingly, this explainer aims to separate myth from fact, providing an overview of existing laws impacting voting by noncitizens to understand the issue better.

The natural first place to look for voting qualifications must be the U.S. Constitution, which, notably, does not forbid noncitizens from voting. It simply sets two rules regarding voting qualifications:

State legislatures have the authority to determine the voting qualifications of the electorate; and The U.S. Constitution explicitly forbids state legislatures from restricting suffrage on account of religion, ethnicity, sex, poll taxes, and age.


With the U.S. Constitution empowering state legislatures to determine the voting qualifications of the electorate, the historical evolution of state constitutions in defining the electorate is particularly significant. Most people will find it surprising that certain noncitizens were permitted to vote in federal, state, and local elections in 33 states between 1776 and 1924. Granting the right to vote to noncitizens was a common incentive among U.S. territories and new states to attract workers and families to work and populate the lands.

However, exactly one century ago, in 1924, Missouri became the last state in the country to ban noncitizen voting in federal elections after amending its state constitution to bar the practice.

Yet, decades later, the U.S. Congress passed the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (IIRAIRA), a sweeping federal immigration enforcement bill. While no states had permitted the practice in the previous 74 years, Section 611 of IIRAIRA went beyond the existing prohibitions to criminalize noncitizen voting in federal elections, making it a crime punishable by up to one year in prison.

The law, however, explicitly left a door open for noncitizens to vote in state or local elections in accordance with state constitutions and local ordinances. While no state constitutions allow noncitizens to vote in state elections, some municipalities do permit them to vote in local elections.

In 1992, the City of Takoma Park, Maryland, became the first municipality in the country to restore noncitizen voting in local elections.
From a legal standpoint, Takoma Park argued that Maryland’s constitution expressly delegates municipalities the power to determine suffrage qualifications for municipal elections in their city charters.[13] In addition, from a practical perspective, Takoma Park argued that citizenship was an irrelevant suffrage qualification when voting for local officials because they deal with local responsibilities, such as parks and recreation, arts programs, public transportation, garbage collection, water, and sewage, to name just a few.

Since Takoma Park granted noncitizens the right to vote in local elections, a small handful of localities have followed its steps. Currently, eleven municipalities in Maryland and Washington, D.C., have opted to allow noncitizens to participate in municipal elections. In addition, at least two school districts in California permit noncitizens to vote in school board elections (but not other municipal elections). In these jurisdictions, noncitizens remain ineligible to vote in federal and state elections.

Besides these handfuls of localities, dozens of cities have considered granting noncitizen voting rights for municipal elections – including Los Angeles, New York City, and Portland – but all initiatives failed at the time of the article’s publication.

Conclusion

The Trump-Johnson proposal to ban noncitizen voting seeks to solve a problem that does not exist. Noncitizens have been barred from voting in federal elections in the United States for at least a century. And since 1996, noncitizen voting in federal elections has been a crime punishable with fines and imprisonment. While a handful of municipalities lawfully permit noncitizens to vote exclusively in local elections, those localities are the exception. Accordingly, introducing new legislation to ban noncitizen voting in federal elections is unnecessary.

Like I said.... right-wing lies are all trumpers have on their side

Never the truth.
 
Right-wing trumpers are so full of shit.

Twisting the facts on divisive issues for the benefit of their low information voting base.

From the National Immigration Forum:



Like I said.... right-wing lies are all trumpers have on their side

Never the truth.
Your ilk is too mentally challenged to understand much less tell the truth.
 
This is pure sedition and total disrespect for the Republic that is how fallen these democrats have gone.

Citizenship means nothing to these democrats.



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Western Journal

Not Even Hiding It: 148 Democrats Go Against Barring Non-Citizens from Voting

Jack Davis

June 15, 2025

Excerpt:

Despite an overwhelming majority of House Democrats opposing the measure, the House on Tuesday moved to overturn a law in Washington, D.C., that allows non-citizens to vote in local elections.

The bill passed 266-148, according to Fox News. One Democrat voted “present,” while 56 supported the bill.
But nobody wants to cheat.
 
Right-wing trumpers are so full of shit.

Twisting the facts on divisive issues for the benefit of their low information voting base.

From the National Immigration Forum:



Like I said.... right-wing lies are all trumpers have on their side

Never the truth.
The truth, however, is that noncitizens have been barred from voting in federal elections since 1924. In addition, in 1996, Congress made noncitizen voting in federal elections

Trump and the Republicans want to make it illegal for ILLEGAL ALIENS to vote in local elections in Washington DC, the nation's capital. In fact, ILLEGAL ALIENS should be ineligible to vote in ANY US election at any level.

The article you cite is using hair splitting in the form of a No True Scotsman by excluding non-federal elections from the argument.
 
Right-wing trumpers are so full of shit.

Twisting the facts on divisive issues for the benefit of their low information voting base.

From the National Immigration Forum:



Like I said.... right-wing lies are all trumpers have on their side

Never the truth.
Jeezuz Christ! You don’t even realize this has NOTHING to do with the OP. Sometimes I just can’t believe the stupidity I see on this board.
 
The truth, however, is that noncitizens have been barred from voting in federal elections since 1924. In addition, in 1996, Congress made noncitizen voting in federal elections

Trump and the Republicans want to make it illegal for ILLEGAL ALIENS to vote in local elections in Washington DC, the nation's capital. In fact, ILLEGAL ALIENS should be ineligible to vote in ANY US election at any level.

The article you cite is using hair splitting in the form of a No True Scotsman by excluding non-federal elections from the argument.
There is nothing in The Constitution that bars non-citizens from voting in any election.

The law in question also bars them from voting in state elections too and the article in the op says nothing about illegal aliens.

It says non citizens.

If a particular community doesn't mind allowing them to vote for local dog catcher or garbage commissioner, who the fuck are some xenophobia crazed trumper cultist trash bags to tell them they can't???

Why do you trumper assholes hate The Constitution so badly????
 
There is nothing in The Constitution that bars non-citizens from voting in any election.

So? The Constitution isn't the only set of laws in the US.
The law in question also bars them from voting in state elections too and the article in the op says nothing about illegal aliens.

There are now a number of local locations that allow illegals to vote.
It says non citizens.

Illegals are non-citizens.
If a particular community doesn't mind allowing them to vote for local dog catcher or garbage commissioner, who the fuck are some xenophobia crazed trumper cultist trash bags to tell them they can't???

Because they are not citizens, and if here illegally, criminals to boot.
Why do you trumper assholes hate The Constitution so badly????
Why do you trot out the Constitution as some panacea whenever challenged on the law even when it has nothing to do with the subject at hand. Oh, wait! That's because you got nothing and know nothing.
 
So? The Constitution isn't the only set of laws in the US.
I'll remind you of that next time you crap your panties about the 2nd Amendment or how abortion is not mentioned in it.
There are now a number of local locations that allow illegals to vote.
If those communities respect their undocumented immigrant friends and neighbors enough to allow them the right and privilege of voting in minor local elections, who are a bunch of ignorant, narrow-minded, redneck trumper assholes to tell them they can't?
Illegals are non-citizens.
That doesn't mean they aren't good, honest, hard working people who deserve a little basic consideration.
Because they are not citizens, and if here illegally, criminals to boot.
I bet you're a bigger criminal than the majority of them.
Why do you trot out the Constitution as some panacea whenever challenged on the law even when it has nothing to do with the subject at hand. Oh, wait! That's because you got nothing and know nothing.
You mean like when you assholes trot out the Constitution to defend your right to stroke and suck on your gun barrels or when you want to punish women for having sex with other guys but never you, by making it illegal to end accidental pregnancies?

Oh, wait! That's because you got nothing and know nothing.
 
The Constitution gives states great power over elections. 50 states, 50 different election policies.
The fact is that what politicians do impacts all denizens. It can take a long, long process to become naturalized. It takes at least 10 years, often much longer. Read a story last week about a guy who has been here 25 years. He has a family and 2 businesses.
 
I'll remind you of that next time you crap your panties about the 2nd Amendment or how abortion is not mentioned in it.

The 2nd Amendment is a constitutional issue. Roe isn't mentioned and is a states issue. So?
If those communities respect their undocumented immigrant friends and neighbors enough to allow them the right and privilege of voting in minor local elections, who are a bunch of ignorant, narrow-minded, redneck trumper assholes to tell them they can't?

And should foreigners on a tourist visa get to vote? How about our own criminals, should they get to vote? Your appeal to pity is meaningless.
That doesn't mean they aren't good, honest, hard working people who deserve a little basic consideration.

And if they're just criminals...? What "consideration" should we give to people who can't honor our laws on immigration? What other laws is it acceptable to ignore?
I bet you're a bigger criminal than the majority of them.

You'd lose that bet.
You mean like when you assholes trot out the Constitution to defend your right to stroke and suck on your gun barrels or when you want to punish women for having sex with other guys but never you, by making it illegal to end accidental pregnancies?

This is just insults on your part. Is it your opinion that no one should have firearms? That seems to be where you are going. As for women, I think it's a matter of personal responsibility and equal rights. Right now, that isn't the case with abortion and child support. One person's "accidental pregnancy" is another person's "casual unprotected sex with consequences."
 
The 2nd Amendment is a constitutional issue.
Quote: "So? The Constitution isn't the only set of laws in the US."
Roe isn't mentioned and is a states issue. So?
Non citizen voting isn't mentioned either and it's a local, community issue. So?
And should foreigners on a tourist visa get to vote?
Again, these are community level issues which communities should be allowed to decide for themselves and a bunch of authoritarian dictator worshippers should keep their control freak noses out of it.
How about our own criminals, should they get to vote?
Totally different issue.
Your appeal to pity is meaningless.
Your appeal to ignorance is meaningless.
And if they're just criminals...? What "consideration" should we give to people who can't honor our laws on immigration? What other laws is it acceptable to ignore?
If you and your family were a) starving and/or b) facing political persecution and possible death at the hands of the kind of the kind of vile despot trump admires and strives to be like, you would take any chance you could manage to grasp onto, immigration laws be damned, to get your family to safety and a chance at a decent life.

And don't even try to come back at me with that holier-than-thou, honest John denial bullshit because everybody knows you'd do the same thing they're doing and you'd be whimpering "poor little me" the entire time.

Fuck you and your rigid, too logical to possess human empathy.

I wonder if you think you're a Christian.
You'd lose that bet.
Says you.

Of course I don't believe it
This is just insults on your part.
That's all you rate.
Is it your opinion that no one should have firearms?
No, I think the military and law enforcement should have them.

As for everyone else ... "The Constitution isn't the only set of laws in the US."
That seems to be where you are going. As for women, I think it's a matter of personal responsibility and equal rights. Right now, that isn't the case with abortion and child support. One person's "accidental pregnancy" is another person's "casual unprotected sex with consequences."
IOW, you want to subjugate women and punish them for experiencing a physical pleasure they've never allowed you to experience with them.

Just because trumper males are resentful incels who feel left out of life's big sex orgy, is no reason to make others suffer just to make yourselves feel less alone in your own suffering.

Just sayin'....
 
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