None of this matters....

[gmark77]

plenty of stuff in the bible means things. Ive had this debate with tons of heretical protestants. Im not saying you are but they engage in theological gymnastics to avoid clear messages.

Sounds like YOU know the TROOOOOTH(tm) amirite?

 

[gmark77]

the same could easily be done to your words.

No, because my words have meaning. The Bible's don't. I know this because no matter what the believer is challenged with from the plain language of the Bible the Bible never says what it says if the believer is upset by what it says.

 

[domer76]

To be quite honest they should just make a translation of the Bible that reads "Derp, derp derp DERP, derp derp derp derpderpderp" and that way they can plow whatever meaning to the random letters that they need at that moment.

Fuck, man. “Which generation?” Really?

 

[Ross Dolan]

Just reciting the magic incantation alone is meaningless. Its necessary to believe in Jesus but its not sufficient by itself.

Meaning that you must blindly guess that Jesus existed as a single person...and was divine?

What about people who say that they do not know (nor, in fact, can they know) any of that stuff. So just the insistence upon a guess...a blind guess...is what is necessary?

That makes no sense.

 

[Hume]

Meaning that you must blindly guess that Jesus existed as a single person...and was divine?

What about people who say that they do not know (nor, in fact, can they know) any of that stuff. So just the insistence upon a guess...a blind guess...is what is necessary?

That makes no sense.

^blind guess

 

[Into the Night]

According to the NY Post story, Jesus told some pastor he was coming back on the 23rd of September....or maybe the 24th of September.

https://nypost.com/2025/09/08/lifestyle/jesus-return-this-month-pastor-has-a-viral-rapture-vision/

The NY Post is ignoring Mathew 24:36, eh?

 

[Into the Night]

"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."

Contextomy fallacy. Go read the rest of it.

 

[Yakuda]

Meaning that you must blindly guess that Jesus existed as a single person...and was divine?

What about people who say that they do not know (nor, in fact, can they know) any of that stuff. So just the insistence upon a guess...a blind guess...is what is necessary?

That makes no sense.

You mustn't anything.

what about them? No. whats necessary is faith and works.

Lots of things dont make sense but people believe that shot all the time

 

[Ross Dolan]

You mustn't anything.

Well you are the one who wrote, "Just reciting the magic incantation alone is meaningless. Its necessary to believe in Jesus but its not sufficient by itself."

If it is "necessary"...you must.

what about them? No. whats necessary is faith and works.

Yeah, "faith." In other words, claim that your blind guess is correct.

As for works...well, DO GOOD.

Lots of things dont make sense but people believe that shot all the time

Who cares what people "believe." They can guess whatever they want.

 

[Yakuda]

Well you are the one who wrote, "Just reciting the magic incantation alone is meaningless. Its necessary to believe in Jesus but its not sufficient by itself."

If it is "necessary"...you must.




Yeah, "faith." In other words, claim that your blind guess is correct.

As for works...well, DO GOOD.


Who cares what people "believe." They can guess whatever they want.

yes if you want salvation its necessary to believe but the fact its necessary doesnt cause people to believe.

It seems to make you feel better to use the word guess so use it. Like i said people believe all kinds of shit that doesnt make sense

 

[ZenMode]

The NY Post is ignoring Mathew 24:36, eh?

Right. That's the issue.

 

[Into the Night]

Well you are the one who wrote, "Just reciting the magic incantation alone is meaningless. Its necessary to believe in Jesus but its not sufficient by itself."

This part is correct. After all, Satan believed in Jesus. He tried to tempt him.

If it is "necessary"...you must.

This is incorrect. People that have never heard of Jesus Christ are not condemned. They too can be saved. Jesus Christ died and was resurrected for ALL men...even those that never heard of Him.

If you fight Jesus Christ, you condemn yourself.

Yeah, "faith." In other words, claim that your blind guess is correct.

It is not a blind guess. There is evidence supporting the existence of Jesus Christ. No proof, however, is possible. Like most everything, it is based on faith.

As for works...well, DO GOOD.

Void argument fallacy.

Who cares what people "believe."

Obviously, YOU do.

They can guess whatever they want.

Not a guess.

 

[Into the Night]

You mustn't anything.

what about them? No. whats necessary is faith and works.

Lots of things dont make sense but people believe that shot all the time

You at least understand some of the power of the argument if faith. So much in life depends upon it!

 

[Yakuda]

You at least understand some of the power of the argument if faith. So much in life depends upon it!

I understand it all too well and dealing with people like that poster tire me out and fray my patience.

 

[domer76]

yes if you want salvation its necessary to believe but the fact its necessary doesnt cause people to believe.

It seems to make you feel better to use the word guess so use it. Like i said people believe all kinds of shit that doesnt make sense

Who said that it’s necessary to believe for salvation? Jesus didn’t.

 

[Dutch Uncle]