No, the devil does not appear in the Garden of Eden — or anywhere in the Hebrew Bible

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We fight, We win, Am Yisrael Chai
No, the devil does not appear in the Garden of Eden — or anywhere in the Hebrew Bible


No, the doctrine of the Trinity does not appear in any of the earliest versions of the First Epistle of John. (It first shows up in a manuscript from the 14th century.)


No, Jesus did not believe the righteous go to heaven. More likely he thought God would physically resurrect the dead as part of a new kingdom on Earth. (a Jewish concept)


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/h...A17lKFE?cvid=633e3fec0cdf41109d864f0a2c2ace09


Bart Ehrman

Born on October 5, 1955, Ehrman grew up in Lawrence, Kansas, and attended Lawrence High School, where he was on the state champion debate team in 1973. He began studying the Bible, biblical theology, and biblical languages at Moody Bible Institute,[1] where he earned the school's three-year diploma in 1976.[2] He is a 1978 graduate of Wheaton College in Illinois, where he received his bachelor's degree. He received his PhD (in 1985) and MDiv from Princeton Theological Seminary, where he studied textual criticism of the Bible, development of the New Testament canon and New Testament apocrypha under Bruce Metzger. Both baccalaureate and doctorate were conferred magna cum laude.[3]

Career
Ehrman was raised in an Anglican family and was originally a member of the Episcopal Church of the United States; as a teenager, he became a born-again evangelical.[1][4][5] In Misquoting Jesus, he recounts being certain in his youthful enthusiasm that God had inspired the wording of the Bible and protected its texts from all error.[1][4] His desire to understand the original words of the Bible led him to study ancient languages, particularly Koine Greek, and textual criticism. During such studies at Princeton, however, he became convinced that there are contradictions and discrepancies in the biblical manuscripts that could not be harmonized or reconciled:[1]

I did my very best to hold on to my faith that the Bible was the inspired word of God with no mistakes and that lasted for about two years [...] I realized that at the time we had over 5,000 manuscripts of the New Testament, and no two of them are exactly alike. The scribes were changing them, sometimes in big ways, but lots of times in little ways. And it finally occurred to me that if I really thought that God had inspired this text [...] If he went to the trouble of inspiring the text, why didn't he go to the trouble of preserving the text? Why did he allow scribes to change it?[1]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_D._Ehrman
 
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Ehrman already has a plan for his next book. It will be about charity. He said the Jewish idea of giving to the poor — adopted by Jesus — was entirely alien to the Greek and Roman world. And yet, when Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire, it became the gold standard of ethics.
 
guno said:
No, the devil does not appear in the Garden of Eden — or anywhere in the Hebrew Bible


No, the doctrine of the Trinity does not appear in any of the earliest versions of the First Epistle of John. (It first shows up in a manuscript from the 14th century.)


No, Jesus did not believe the righteous go to heaven. More likely he thought God would physically resurrect the dead as part of a new kingdom on Earth. (a Jewish concept)


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/h...A17lKFE?cvid=633e3fec0cdf41109d864f0a2c2ace09


Bart Ehrman

Born on October 5, 1955, Ehrman grew up in Lawrence, Kansas, and attended Lawrence High School, where he was on the state champion debate team in 1973. He began studying the Bible, biblical theology, and biblical languages at Moody Bible Institute,[1] where he earned the school's three-year diploma in 1976.[2] He is a 1978 graduate of Wheaton College in Illinois, where he received his bachelor's degree. He received his PhD (in 1985) and MDiv from Princeton Theological Seminary, where he studied textual criticism of the Bible, development of the New Testament canon and New Testament apocrypha under Bruce Metzger. Both baccalaureate and doctorate were conferred magna cum laude.[3]

Career
Ehrman was raised in an Anglican family and was originally a member of the Episcopal Church of the United States; as a teenager, he became a born-again evangelical.[1][4][5] In Misquoting Jesus, he recounts being certain in his youthful enthusiasm that God had inspired the wording of the Bible and protected its texts from all error.[1][4] His desire to understand the original words of the Bible led him to study ancient languages, particularly Koine Greek, and textual criticism. During such studies at Princeton, however, he became convinced that there are contradictions and discrepancies in the biblical manuscripts that could not be harmonized or reconciled:[1]

I did my very best to hold on to my faith that the Bible was the inspired word of God with no mistakes and that lasted for about two years [...] I realized that at the time we had over 5,000 manuscripts of the New Testament, and no two of them are exactly alike. The scribes were changing them, sometimes in big ways, but lots of times in little ways. And it finally occurred to me that if I really thought that God had inspired this text [...] If he went to the trouble of inspiring the text, why didn't he go to the trouble of preserving the text? Why did he allow scribes to change it?[1]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_D._Ehrman
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Your religion is pure. God like Jews more than everyone else.
 
guno said:
Ehrman already has a plan for his next book. It will be about charity. He said the Jewish idea of giving to the poor — adopted by Jesus — was entirely alien to the Greek and Roman world. And yet, when Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire, it became the gold standard of ethics.
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So government does not need to take care of its own people.
 
guno said:
No, the doctrine of the Trinity does not appear in any of the earliest versions of the First Epistle of John. (It first shows up in a manuscript from the 14th century.)
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I thought there was still a question as to the Johannine Comma. Erasmus couldn't find it in the manuscripts he had, but someone ultimately showed him one that contained it. I don't know if that was a forgery or if Erasmus has simply failed to have the right manuscripts.
 
NovoJank said:
I thought there was still a question as to the Johannine Comma. Erasmus couldn't find it in the manuscripts he had, but someone ultimately showed him one that contained it. I don't know if that was a forgery or if Erasmus has simply failed to have the right manuscripts.
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In the early centuries of the church, Christians felt under attack from all sides. They were in conflict with Jews and pagans over the validity of their religion ... but the hottest debates were with other Christians, as they argued over the right thing to believe and the rights ways to live.
Thus Christians aiming to authorize views they wanted others to accept wrote in the name of the Apostles, fabricating, falsifying and forging documents.
 
NovoJank said:
I thought there was still a question as to the Johannine Comma. Erasmus couldn't find it in the manuscripts he had, but someone ultimately showed him one that contained it. I don't know if that was a forgery or if Erasmus has simply failed to have the right manuscripts.
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Erasmus was shown an earlier Greek manuscript with the quote? I can not find evidence of this. He was writing the Greek New Testament, he was shown the Latin Vulgate, but no early Greek manuscripts contained the verse.
 
Phantasmal said:
Erasmus was shown an earlier Greek manuscript with the quote? I can not find evidence of this. He was writing the Greek New Testament, he was shown the Latin Vulgate, but no early Greek manuscripts contained the verse.
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It may be that he was only "told" such a thing existed. But he was also being accused of reviving the Arian heresy at the time so he might have been "pressured" into it. I don't know the details. Just thought I had read somewhere that he had been shown a manuscript.
 
guno said:
No, the devil does not appear in the Garden of Eden — or anywhere in the Hebrew Bible


No, the doctrine of the Trinity does not appear in any of the earliest versions of the First Epistle of John. (It first shows up in a manuscript from the 14th century.)


No, Jesus did not believe the righteous go to heaven. More likely he thought God would physically resurrect the dead as part of a new kingdom on Earth. (a Jewish concept)


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/h...A17lKFE?cvid=633e3fec0cdf41109d864f0a2c2ace09


Bart Ehrman

Born on October 5, 1955, Ehrman grew up in Lawrence, Kansas, and attended Lawrence High School, where he was on the state champion debate team in 1973. He began studying the Bible, biblical theology, and biblical languages at Moody Bible Institute,[1] where he earned the school's three-year diploma in 1976.[2] He is a 1978 graduate of Wheaton College in Illinois, where he received his bachelor's degree. He received his PhD (in 1985) and MDiv from Princeton Theological Seminary, where he studied textual criticism of the Bible, development of the New Testament canon and New Testament apocrypha under Bruce Metzger. Both baccalaureate and doctorate were conferred magna cum laude.[3]

Career
Ehrman was raised in an Anglican family and was originally a member of the Episcopal Church of the United States; as a teenager, he became a born-again evangelical.[1][4][5] In Misquoting Jesus, he recounts being certain in his youthful enthusiasm that God had inspired the wording of the Bible and protected its texts from all error.[1][4] His desire to understand the original words of the Bible led him to study ancient languages, particularly Koine Greek, and textual criticism. During such studies at Princeton, however, he became convinced that there are contradictions and discrepancies in the biblical manuscripts that could not be harmonized or reconciled:[1]

I did my very best to hold on to my faith that the Bible was the inspired word of God with no mistakes and that lasted for about two years [...] I realized that at the time we had over 5,000 manuscripts of the New Testament, and no two of them are exactly alike. The scribes were changing them, sometimes in big ways, but lots of times in little ways. And it finally occurred to me that if I really thought that God had inspired this text [...] If he went to the trouble of inspiring the text, why didn't he go to the trouble of preserving the text? Why did he allow scribes to change it?[1]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_D._Ehrman
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nobody cares about your take on jesus.

you murdered him.

big mistake, big. huge.
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