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BOCA RATON, Fla. – Seniors prepared to cut back on everything from food to charitable donations to whiskey as word spread Monday that they will have to wait until at least 2012 to see their Social Security checks increase.

The government is expected to announce this week that more than 58 million Social Security recipients will go through a second straight year without an increase in monthly benefits. This year was the first without an increase since automatic adjustments for inflation started in 1975.

"I think it's disgusting," said Paul McNeil, 69, a retired state worker from Warwick, R.I., who said his food and utility costs have gone up, but his income has not. He lamented decisions by lawmakers that he said do not favor seniors.

"They've got this idea that they've got to save money and basically they want to take it out of the people that will give them the least resistance," he said.

Cost-of-living adjustments are automatically set by a measure adopted by Congress in the 1970s that orders raises based on the Consumer Price Index, which measures inflation. If inflation is negative, as in 2009 and 2010, payments remain unchanged.

Still, seniors like McNeil said they'll be thinking about the issue when they go to vote, and experts said the news comes at a bad time for Democrats already facing potentially big losses in November. Seniors are the most loyal of voters, and their support is especially important during midterm elections, when turnout is generally lower





http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101011/ap_on_bi_ge/us_social_security_no_cola
 
If they did a serious COLA adjustment they'd have to decrease the dollar amount of the payout. The point of COLA is to pay back seniors for their benefits being damaged by inflation. It would be utterly retarded to increase benefits because they've had the inconvenience of not being inconvenienced.
 
If they did a serious COLA adjustment they'd have to decrease the dollar amount of the payout. The point of COLA is to pay back seniors for their benefits being damaged by inflation. It would be utterly retarded to increase benefits because they've had the inconvenience of not being inconvenienced.

Tell that to your gramps.
 
Tell that to your gramps.

He's too dead.

If the COL is negative or stays neutral their income effectively goes up. Just increasing total benefits because the COL is acting unusually would not be a COLA. I disagreed with the Democrats adjusting last time and I'd disagree with them adjusting now. It's not fiscally responsible anyway.
 
If they did a serious COLA adjustment they'd have to decrease the dollar amount of the payout. The point of COLA is to pay back seniors for their benefits being damaged by inflation. It would be utterly retarded to increase benefits because they've had the inconvenience of not being inconvenienced.

then why do congresscritters and senators get a COLA increase in their salaries?
 
He's too dead.

If the COL is negative or stays neutral their income effectively goes up. Just increasing total benefits because the COL is acting unusually would not be a COLA. I disagreed with the Democrats adjusting last time and I'd disagree with them adjusting now. It's not fiscally responsible anyway.

We agree! COLA should mirror inflation. No inflation=no COLA increase
 
He's too dead.

If the COL is negative or stays neutral their income effectively goes up. Just increasing total benefits because the COL is acting unusually would not be a COLA. I disagreed with the Democrats adjusting last time and I'd disagree with them adjusting now. It's not fiscally responsible anyway.

I understand the nuances and issues with the COL and the subsequent affect is has on adjustments. The point being is the ones most adversely hit are the elderly who are for the most part on a fixed income and pinching pennies already. Nothing is going down for anybody and although we are in a better postion to absorb it, or in your case your parents, it could mean the difference between whether their immediate are needs met, or the gas bill paid.
 
I understand the nuances and issues with the COL and the subsequent affect is has on adjustments. The point being is the ones most adversely hit are the elderly who are for the most part on a fixed income and pinching pennies already. Nothing is going down for anybody and although we are in a better postion to absorb it, or in your case your parents, it could mean the difference between whether their immediate are needs met, or the gas bill paid.

they are also the people who spent their lives voting for the idiots who led us to this point. They deserve what they get.
 
Did they? Id agree that it would obviously be contradictory and wrong if they use different formulas for congressional pay and ss benefits.
 
He's too dead.

If the COL is negative or stays neutral their income effectively goes up. Just increasing total benefits because the COL is acting unusually would not be a COLA. I disagreed with the Democrats adjusting last time and I'd disagree with them adjusting now. It's not fiscally responsible anyway.
The COLA is based on the percentage increase in the Consumer Price Index for Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers (CPI-W) from the third quarter of one year to the third quarter of the next.

Yet, Federal workers will see a big raise as they do just about EVERY year...
The military will get a pay raise....

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/04/22/politics/main6422372.shtml

Bill Passed Unanimously to Stop Yearly Cost-of-Living Pay Hike

Congress had to actually pass legislation to DENY themselves a pay raise of $1600 to 2010...
and they received a $5000 pay raise last January....

so.....eat shit Waterstain
 
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they are also the people who spent their lives voting for the idiots who led us to this point. They deserve what they get.

Well I don't know what percentage of the elderly vote which way, or at least the elderly of today, but I am sure there are many who did vote for the idiots.

Two years ago a blurb in my annual statement indicated trouble was on the horizon for social security. I know my health insurance was just raised over 60% and I cannot imagine some of the elderly on fixed incomes could sustain such an increase without going without some pretty basic needs.

I hate to say it, but the worst looks like it's yet to come.
 
The COLA is based on the percentage increase in the Consumer Price Index for Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers (CPI-W) from the third quarter of one year to the third quarter of the next.

Yet, Federal workers will see a big raise as they do just about EVERY year...
The military will get a pay raise....


Because those increases are not indexed to CPI. Social Security is and has been since the 1970s, I believe.
 
Because those increases are not indexed to CPI. Social Security is and has been since the 1970s, I believe.
Since 1975, Social Security's general benefit increases have been based on increases in the cost of living, as measured by the Consumer Price Index. We call such increases Cost-Of-Living Adjustments, or COLAs. Because there has been a decline in the Consumer Price Index, there will be no COLA payable in 2010.

http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/COLA/colasummary.html
 
Since 1975, Social Security's general benefit increases have been based on increases in the cost of living, as measured by the Consumer Price Index. We call such increases Cost-Of-Living Adjustments, or COLAs. Because there has been a decline in the Consumer Price Index, there will be no COLA payable in 2010.

http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/COLA/colasummary.html


I understand that. Congressional raises and federal worker raises are not based on CPI. If they were, they wouldn't get raises either.
 
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