NHS shame: Death rate in Britain's hospitals is far higher than US

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PATIENTS face a much higher chance of dying in an NHS hospital than in an American one, it was revealed last night.

The unexpectedly high death rates in England show that those admitted to a ward on the National Health Service are 45 per cent more likely to die than in a US hospital.

The alarming figures, uncovered by Channel 4 News's Cradle to Grave NHS Special, also reveal that elderly NHS patients are five times as likely to die from pneumonia and twice as likely to die of septicaemia.

The research, compiled by Sir Brian Jarman, who has been analysing mortality rates since the 1980s, reveals that it is not just a fundamental failing in a select few NHS trusts but in the average hospital.

He says successive Governments have refused to act on his findings. The death rates have never been published.

Sir Brian said when he noticed what was happening in the NHS he was "shocked".


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Death Rate of uninsured in U.S. is higher than those in England with access to free, if imperfect medical care.

Internet; Dune, blogologist at JPP has determined through applied logic that the uninsured in the US die far more often than those people in the same social strata in socially well-developed (European) countries with socialised health care.

Irrelevant topic is irrelevant, Damocles.

Basicly we are barbarians in this country and allow our most vulnerable to die and or suffer needlessly so that Eric Cantor can feel better about being butt fucked by Boner.

No link needed, just common sense.
 
Rune said:
Death Rate of uninsured in U.S. is higher than those in England with access to free, if imperfect medical care.

Internet; Dune, blogologist at JPP has determined through applied logic that the uninsured in the US die far more often than those people in the same social strata in socially well-developed (European) countries with socialised health care.

Irrelevant topic is irrelevant, Damocles.

Basicly we are barbarians in this country and allow our most vulnerable to die and or suffer needlessly so that Eric Cantor can feel better about being butt fucked by Boner.

No link needed, just common sense.
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:rolleyes:

You seem to have found "relevance" regardless of the fact that I simply posted a story without comment. Now I'll give a comment. I would prefer to go into bankruptcy after getting good care in the US although I were poor than to die and not be bankrupt. Although I would also prefer to make a system that actually lowered costs and made health care affordable, then passed something to help poor people, I suggest we call it "medicaid" or something like that.

Seriously, to get this death rate we'd have to ban penicillin.
 
Damocles said:
:rolleyes:

You seem to have found "relevance" regardless of the fact that I simply posted a story without comment. Now I'll give a comment. I would prefer to go into bankruptcy after getting good care in the US although I were poor than to die and not be bankrupt. Although I would also prefer to make a system that actually lowered costs and made health care affordable, then passed something to help poor people, I suggest we call it "medicaid" or something like that.

Seriously, to get this death rate we'd have to ban penicillin.
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Rune doesn't know what he is talking about. None of these results are surprising. It is what happens when you ration care through the government.

Dead patients aren't that expensive to treat.
 
Damocles said:
:rolleyes:

You seem to have found "relevance" regardless of the fact that I simply posted a story without comment. Now I'll give a comment. I would prefer to go into bankruptcy after getting good care in the US although I were poor than to die and not be bankrupt. Although I would also prefer to make a system that actually lowered costs and made health care affordable, then passed something to help poor people, I suggest we call it "medicaid" or something like that.

Seriously, to get this death rate we'd have to ban penicillin.
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Much of the reported mortality was due to outbreaks of MRSA in British hospitals, both NHS and private, which has now been greatly reduced by ensuring that doctors and nurses use hand wipes between patients and the banning of ties and other extraneous clothing, jewellery, watches etc. It also highlights how vulnerable we all are to bacterial infection bearing in mind how few antibiotics are left that have not been rendered useless by mutation.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1537202/Tie-ban-for-doctors-to-stop-spread-of-MRSA.html
 
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Aoxomoxoa said:
Much of the reported mortality was due to outbreaks of MRSA in British hospitals, both NHS and private, which has now been greatly reduced by ensuring that doctors and nurses use hand wipes between patients and the banning of ties and other extraneous clothing, jewellery, watches etc. It also highlights how vulnerable we all are to bacterial infection bearing in mind how few antibiotics are left that have not been rendered useless by mutation

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1537202/Tie-ban-for-doctors-to-stop-spread-of-MRSA.html
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MRSA was quite a problem here in the US ten years ago, then the safety measures you mentioned were implemented. The article did not give the number of deaths, I would be curious to see how he arrived at the 45% higher number.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
Much of the reported mortality was due to outbreaks of MRSA in British hospitals, both NHS and private, which has now been greatly reduced by ensuring that doctors and nurses use hand wipes between patients and the banning of ties and other extraneous clothing, jewellery, watches etc. It also highlights how vulnerable we all are to bacterial infection bearing in mind how few antibiotics are left that have not been rendered useless by mutation.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1537202/Tie-ban-for-doctors-to-stop-spread-of-MRSA.html
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You know very little about this subject. Stop while you are behind.

Yeah you guys across the pond have that "special" kind of MRSA we have never seen here.

What a crock.
 
Rana said:
MRSA was quite a problem here in the US ten years ago, then the safety measures you mentioned were implemented. The article did not give the number of deaths, I would be curious to see how he arrived at the 45% higher number.
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MRSA is still a problem. Also there is very little vancomycin resistant MRSA.

Why do you people persist in talking about things you know little about?
 
then you guys on the right must love the affordable care act in comparison to the UK system huh?
 
ILA you may not realize this but if what you say is true you do a very bad job of convincing us that is true
 
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