Nevada's first act as a State was...

Jarod said:
I though it was strange you liked the post.

Your argument that simply because the Fed owns a large percent of the land is a violation of the equal footing doctrine is weak and invalid.
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Then perhaps forcing them to give up rights to 84% of their land as a means of obtaining statehood would be a better argument.
 
Bonestorm said:
LOL @ "jack booted thugs."
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I like imagery... it was supposed to make you LOL (mostly it was due to listening to Pink Floyd at the moment... A place to stay, enough to eat, somewhere old heroes shuffle safely down the street, where you can speak out loud about your doubts and fears, and what's more noone ever disappears, you never hear their standard issue kicking in your door....).

The point doesn't change, there are better solutions than overwhelming force and ones that actually make it appear as if we really do live without fear of an overpowerful government.
 
Damocles said:
I like imagery... it was supposed to make you LOL. The point doesn't change, there are better solutions than overwhelming force and ones that actually make it appear as if we really do live without fear of an overpowerful government.
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I was LOLing at the sentiment it expressed, not necessarily the imagery used to express it.
 
Jarod said:
Conservatives.. your boy Bundy should read the Constitution of the State of Nevada.


The very first action of the State of Nevada included...

1) Allegiance to the Federal Government.
2) Acceptance as Federally Constitutional whatever the Supreme Court of the United States says.
3) Acknowledgement that the Federal Government may employ armed force to compel obedience to the authority of the Federal Government.
4) Acknowledgement that all unappropriated public land that was in the territory would remain and always remain the property of the Federal Government.




From the beginning of the Constitution of the State of Nevada...

"the Paramount Allegiance of every citizen is due to the Federal Government in the exercise of all its Constitutional powers as the same have been or may be defined by the Supreme Court of the United States; and no power exists in the people of this or any other State of the Federal Union to dissolve their connection therewith or perform any act tending to impair[,] subvert, or resist the Supreme Authority of the government of the United States. The Constitution of the United States confers full power on the Federal Government to maintain and Perpetuate its existance [existence], and whensoever any portion of the States, or people thereof attempt to secede from the Federal Union, or forcibly resist the Execution of its laws, the Federal Government may, by warrant of the Constitution, employ armed force in compelling obedience to its Authority.


"...the people inhabiting said territory do agree and declare, that they forever disclaim all right and title to the unappropriated public lands lying within said territory, and that the same shall be and remain at the sole and entire disposition of the United States; and that lands belonging to citizens of the United States, residing without the said state, shall never be taxed higher than the land belonging to the residents thereof; and that no taxes shall be imposed by said state on lands or property therein belonging to, or which may hereafter be purchased by, the United States, unless otherwise provided by the congress of the United States."


Wake up and take a history lesson before you advocate taking up arms against the United States of America, because you think its operating outside its legal authority.
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That gives you a hard on doesn't it?

Didn't you just riff about pledging allegiance in schools? Now you touch yourself in your special place over it

You are one odd duck
 
SmarterthanYou said:
hey statist, fuck you and your 'domestic terrorist' bullshit. you THINK you would have had enough of that shit when the conservatives branded you during Bushs terms, but I guess you're just not that smart.
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Hey fuckhead, read through the other thread again. Bundy IS a domestic terrorist. You, Bundy, Smilly, all the Fox news talking heads, in fact conservatards across the entire country are in the wrong here. Bundy is a criminal free grazer. His property was not invaded, the Feds were following legal orders and there were NO constitutional violations at all. The armed insurrectionists lurking around scaring children are a serious concern to those not involved in Bundy's private war against the Feds since most of them obviously are under the same delusions, and without doubt there is at least *one*
trigger happy retard.

Pick a battle in which the Feds are actually in the wrong.
 
Rune said:
Hey fuckhead, read through the other thread again. Bundy IS a domestic terrorist. You, Bundy, Smilly, all the Fox news talking heads, in fact conservatards across the entire country are in the wrong here. Bundy is a criminal free grazer. His property was not invaded, the Feds were following legal orders and there were NO constitutional violations at all. The armed insurrectionists lurking around scaring children are a serious concern to those not involved in Bundy's private war against the Feds since most of them obviously are under the same delusions, and without doubt there is at least *one*
trigger happy retard.

Pick a battle in which the Feds are actually in the wrong.
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blah blah blah, following orders didn't work so well for nuremburg, right? for you to see me as a domestic terrorist against your precious federal government is the highest honor i've received all week.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
blah blah blah, following orders didn't work so well for nuremburg, right? for you to see me as a domestic terrorist against your precious federal government is the highest honor i've received all week.
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Coming from you that is the dumbest comment I have reads all week.

You know damn well I am on the same side as you here, but you have to pick your battles. Any fool knows that. Were you able to prove the Feds incorrect, I would agree with you, but if you make moves when they are in the right, then you are in the wrong.

Very inappropriate response from you. This is an issue of critical importance, the government is ignoring the constitution on many levels and needs to be curtailed. This isn't the right issue though, since the rancher is entirely in the wrong. He is a criminal. The government is actually showing great restraint here.

Anyone who gets involved in this is going to be "another crazed gunman shot to death by police". If that is what you want, go for it. I suggest you open you mind to the reality of the situation.

Correct war, incorrect battle. Always pick your battles. You should know that, and you should stay clear headed enough to know that the free grazer is in the wrong.
 
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