My perceptions are changing.

Jarod

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I have always said that Mitt Romney will not be a bad president and I still belive its true. He and I do not share core principals but he is a good man and he is a million times better than GWB was. I loved the question last night from the voter that was afraid that Mitt would be like GWB.

Having said that, I still belive that President Obama is best for our country. He has a dedication to fairness and long term progress that I do not belive Mitt Romney shares.

Alas, I do not belive that enough of my fellow voters agree. They should be with us... they should be on our side... yet they are not. In the next week we will see what kind of movement the polls take and we will have a good idea where this election is going. I am not optimistic any longer.

The only consolation I have is that this nation is strong and powerfull, we will progress to a brighter future under Romney or Obama. Mostly, thank God GWB is no longer presidnet and is inelegable for another term.
 
Jarod,

I wanted to start off by telling you that I am a moderate (somewhat conservative) Republican. Some people think Obama is a 'terrorist', or that he really is not a US Citizen, etc. I do not agree with any of those shady opinions, or theories about him. I think that he legitimately wants to help the country, and is a nice guy, but I dont like his polices and plans to do that. I dont believe in his 'redistribution of wealth' policies. That is essentially socialism. That sends a message that you dont have to work hard in this country, that the govt will simply take care of you. Instead of making the rich pay more, why not put things in place to make it prosperous for all americans?

I understand that you are torn, but remember the words of Ronald Reagan.. "Are you better off today than you were 4 years ago?"...a simple question.

*50 million people in this country on food stamps(more than ever)

*Declining jobs & unemployment numbers for almost 48 months

*Gas prices hovering around $4 a gallon with no relief in sight

*the deficit at $16 trillion. It was only $10 trillion when Obama took over. He promised to cut it in half within his first time, but he added greatly to it.

*Obamacare on the horizon,which experts say will not be able to be sustained, and will need more money to support it, which means more in taxes. This Obamacare will completely turn health insurance & coverage on its head. Many Doctors, hospitals, etc will not make it. Once we pop the lid off of Obamacare, we may not be able to put it back on.

Obama continues to borrow money that we dont have to pay for stuff we dont need. Look at your own budget at home. If you are falling behind on bills, and not saving money,and struggling week to week, do you go out and spend even more money? Of course not, you reign in your spending, you cut out stuff you dont need, you make sacrifices. Why should our President not follow these same rules?
 
My family and I are better off today than we were four years ago but I still care about people who aren't, and I don't see how Romney's policies (the very few that he articulated in any detail) are going to help.
 
they will recreate the Bush years.


the same historically failed ideas that benifit only the already powerful in our society
 
Romney et al will finish the job Bush/Cheney started...Bush on steroids. My family is better off under Obama.
 
trickle down is now so widely maligned an idea they have begun to use it to try and malign government.

that is why they now say trickle down government.
 
I have always said that Mitt Romney will not be a bad president and I still belive its true. He and I do not share core principals but he is a good man and he is a million times better than GWB was. I loved the question last night from the voter that was afraid that Mitt would be like GWB.

Having said that, I still belive that President Obama is best for our country. He has a dedication to fairness and long term progress that I do not belive Mitt Romney shares.

Alas, I do not belive that enough of my fellow voters agree. They should be with us... they should be on our side... yet they are not. In the next week we will see what kind of movement the polls take and we will have a good idea where this election is going. I am not optimistic any longer.

The only consolation I have is that this nation is strong and powerfull, we will progress to a brighter future under Romney or Obama. Mostly, thank God GWB is no longer presidnet and is inelegable for another term.

Do you honestly blame them, Jarod, considering Obama's lackluster performance over the last 4 years? Let's be frank with ourselves. Obama had two years in which he could do pretty much whatever he wanted, and he spent every dime of his political capital on ObamaCare. Do you honestly believe that was a wise use of his time, while unemployment was around 10 percent? Millions of people are still out of work, and incomes have dropped. You and I are doing fine, but millions are suffering. Try looking at it from their perspective and it will become evident why they're not jumping on the Obama bandwagon. You have the luxury of being able to confidently vote for Barack Obama...but millions of Americans do not have that luxury. They've lost or are on the verge of losing everything they have.
 
Do you honestly blame them, Jarod, considering Obama's lackluster performance over the last 4 years? Let's be frank with ourselves. Obama had two years in which he could do pretty much whatever he wanted, and he spent every dime of his political capital on ObamaCare. Do you honestly believe that was a wise use of his time, while unemployment was around 10 percent? Millions of people are still out of work, and incomes have dropped. You and I are doing fine, but millions are suffering. Try looking at it from their perspective and it will become evident why they're not jumping on the Obama bandwagon. You have the luxury of being able to confidently vote for Barack Obama...but millions of Americans do not have that luxury. They've lost or are on the verge of losing everything they have.

Obama didn't actually have two years to do whatever he wanted. He has a few months from June of 2009 through Scott Brown's election. This was just a few short months removed from the stimulus bill passing. There wasn't much more that they could have done during that short window to address the economy after having passing the stimulus bill through the end of 2010.
 
Jarod,

I wanted to start off by telling you that I am a moderate (somewhat conservative) Republican. Some people think Obama is a 'terrorist', or that he really is not a US Citizen, etc. I do not agree with any of those shady opinions, or theories about him. I think that he legitimately wants to help the country, and is a nice guy, but I dont like his polices and plans to do that. I dont believe in his 'redistribution of wealth' policies. That is essentially socialism. That sends a message that you dont have to work hard in this country, that the govt will simply take care of you. Instead of making the rich pay more, why not put things in place to make it prosperous for all americans?

I understand that you are torn, but remember the words of Ronald Reagan.. "Are you better off today than you were 4 years ago?"...a simple question.

*50 million people in this country on food stamps(more than ever)

*Declining jobs & unemployment numbers for almost 48 months

*Gas prices hovering around $4 a gallon with no relief in sight

*the deficit at $16 trillion. It was only $10 trillion when Obama took over. He promised to cut it in half within his first time, but he added greatly to it.

*Obamacare on the horizon,which experts say will not be able to be sustained, and will need more money to support it, which means more in taxes. This Obamacare will completely turn health insurance & coverage on its head. Many Doctors, hospitals, etc will not make it. Once we pop the lid off of Obamacare, we may not be able to put it back on.

Obama continues to borrow money that we dont have to pay for stuff we dont need. Look at your own budget at home. If you are falling behind on bills, and not saving money,and struggling week to week, do you go out and spend even more money? Of course not, you reign in your spending, you cut out stuff you dont need, you make sacrifices. Why should our President not follow these same rules?

TO answer your question, yes, my family and I are much better off than we were four years. I quit working for a larger corporation and formed my own small, one person corporation to work for. I make a lot more money but am no longer under the false corporate safety net. My children live in a world where if they are gay they will not be as badly discriminated against, and can join the military should they chose. I have healthcare that I was not elegable for prior to the ACA being passed and I belvie the world and the USA are safer now that OBL is dead.

So yes, we are much better off, thank you.
 
Candy Crowley, who was suspected of being one more liberal moderator in the tank for Barack Obama, was more than just in the tank for him; she dove in and sucked all the water out for him so he could pretend he walked on water.

In the first presidential debate, Jim Lehrer, no slouch at shilling for the Democratic Party, interrupted Mitt Romney 15 times and Barack Obama only five.

Crowley made Lehrer look like an amateur. She interrupted Obama nine times, (although four of those were when he wouldn’t respect the time limit when discussing assault weapons; he went over his time limit all night long), but when it came to Mitt Romney, she was utterly beyond the pale.

Crowley interrupted Romney 28 times. 28 times. Her desperation to keep Romney from scoring points was so patently obvious that it wasn’t really a surprise when she had her infamous moment: the moment when she interrupted and falsely claimed Romney was incorrect in accusing Obama of refusing to call the Benghazi attack an act of terror.

And even beyond the interruptions, there were numerous instances where Crowley’s obvious partisanship prompted her to treat Romney with great disrespect:

1. She wouldn’t let him respond when Obama lied about the auto industry. First she called him Mr. Romney instead of governor, then protested, “there'll be plenty of chances here to go on, but I want to... We have all these folks. I will let you absolutely... OK. Will - will - you certainly will have lots of time here coming up.” Romney never did get the chance to respond.

2. After the question asking whether gas prices as they stand now are the new normal, Obama got 2 chances to respond. When Romney asked for his second chance, Crowley shut him off by saying, “ … in the follow up, it doesn't quite work like that. But I'm going to give you a chance here. I promise you, I'm going to.” She didn’t.

3. When discussing how he would deal with deductions, just as Romney was about to destroy Obama with statistics, Crowley jumped in to save her man not only by denying the value of statistics, but changing the narrative to say Romney’s numbers couldn’t possibly add up:

“And Governor, let's - before we get into a vast array of who says - what study says what, if it shouldn't add up. If somehow when you get in there, there isn't enough tax revenue coming in. If somehow the numbers don't add up, would you be willing to look again …”

4. When Romney was trying to make a point of Obama’s pension investing in China, Crowley cut him off by insinuating people were tired of him talking:

“Governor Romney, you can make it short. See all these people? They've been waiting for you. Make it short.”

Then she really tried to humiliate him with this: “If I could have you sit down, Governor Romney. Thank you.” She never asked Obama to sit down.

5. The infamous incident when she interrupted Romney’s claim about Obama’s refusal to call the Benghazi murders a terror attack:

“It - it - it - he did in fact, sir. So let me - let me call it an act of terror...

Prompted by Obama to say it a little louder, Crowley obliged:

“He - he did call it an act of terror. It did as well take - it did as well take two weeks or so for the whole idea there being a riot out there about this tape to come out. You are correct about that.”

6. 6. Just as egregiously, when the question was about assault weapons and Romney naturally started to discuss fast and furious, Crowley quickly shifted him away from that and turned it into an attack on Romney’s assault ban position:

“Governor, Governor, if I could, the question was about these assault weapons that once were once banned and are no longer banned. I know that you signed an assault weapons ban when you were in Massachusetts, obviously, with this question, you no longer do support that. Why is that, given the kind of violence that we see sometimes with these mass killings? Why is it that you have changed your mind?’

The fact that Obama escaped all night long by lie after lie didn’t seem to disturb Crowley in the slightest. She had her shadowy agenda, and she stuck to it fiercely. Now it is our job to throw her out into the sun where every American can see exactly how dirty she is.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/17/Crowley-interrupts-28-times-Romney
 
Jarod,

I wanted to start off by telling you that I am a moderate (somewhat conservative) Republican. Some people think Obama is a 'terrorist', or that he really is not a US Citizen, etc. I do not agree with any of those shady opinions, or theories about him. I think that he legitimately wants to help the country, and is a nice guy, but I dont like his polices and plans to do that. I dont believe in his 'redistribution of wealth' policies. That is essentially socialism. That sends a message that you dont have to work hard in this country, that the govt will simply take care of you. Instead of making the rich pay more, why not put things in place to make it prosperous for all americans?

I understand that you are torn, but remember the words of Ronald Reagan.. "Are you better off today than you were 4 years ago?"...a simple question.

*50 million people in this country on food stamps(more than ever)

*Declining jobs & unemployment numbers for almost 48 months

*Gas prices hovering around $4 a gallon with no relief in sight

*the deficit at $16 trillion. It was only $10 trillion when Obama took over. He promised to cut it in half within his first time, but he added greatly to it.

*Obamacare on the horizon,which experts say will not be able to be sustained, and will need more money to support it, which means more in taxes. This Obamacare will completely turn health insurance & coverage on its head. Many Doctors, hospitals, etc will not make it. Once we pop the lid off of Obamacare, we may not be able to put it back on.

Obama continues to borrow money that we dont have to pay for stuff we dont need. Look at your own budget at home. If you are falling behind on bills, and not saving money,and struggling week to week, do you go out and spend even more money? Of course not, you reign in your spending, you cut out stuff you dont need, you make sacrifices. Why should our President not follow these same rules?


Seeing how you are in the market, I have a bunch of talking points for sale, cheap.
 
I have always said that Mitt Romney will not be a bad president and I still belive its true. He and I do not share core principals but he is a good man and he is a million times better than GWB was. I loved the question last night from the voter that was afraid that Mitt would be like GWB.

Having said that, I still belive that President Obama is best for our country. He has a dedication to fairness and long term progress that I do not belive Mitt Romney shares.

Alas, I do not belive that enough of my fellow voters agree. They should be with us... they should be on our side... yet they are not. In the next week we will see what kind of movement the polls take and we will have a good idea where this election is going. I am not optimistic any longer.

The only consolation I have is that this nation is strong and powerfull, we will progress to a brighter future under Romney or Obama. Mostly, thank God GWB is no longer presidnet and is inelegable for another term.
Oh shit man. I thought you had just dropped acid for the first time. ;)
 
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