More Trump / Russian lies revealed

Buckly J. Ewer

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It looks like another Trump adviser has significantly changed his story about the GOP's dramatic shift on Ukraine
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TRUMP DENIES HE HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH PRO-RUSSIAN GOP PLATFORM CHANGE WHICH HE ORDERED


The Trump campaign's national-security policy representative for the Republican National Convention, J.D. Gordon, told CNN on Thursday that he pushed to alter an amendment to the GOP's draft policy on Ukraine at the Republican National Convention last year to further align it with President Donald Trump's views.

Gordon's remarks represent a dramatic shift from previous comments, and they come as Attorney General Jeff Sessions faces intense scrutiny over two previously undisclosed meetings with Russia's ambassador to the US — one of which was timed to the convention.

In January, Gordon told Business Insider that he "never left" his "assigned side table" nor spoke publicly at the GOP national security subcommittee meeting, where the amendment — which originally called for "providing lethal defense weapons" to the Ukrainian army to fend off Russian-backed separatists — was read aloud, debated, and ultimately watered down to "providing appropriate assistance" to Ukraine.

According to CNN's Jim Acosta, however, Gordon said that at the RNC he and others "advocated for the GOP platform to include language against arming Ukrainians against pro-Russian rebels" because "this was in line with Trump's views, expressed at a March national security meeting at the unfinished Trump hotel" in Washington, DC.

"Gordon says Trump said at the meeting ... that he didn't want to go to 'World War Three' over Ukraine," Acosta said.

Trump's apparent involvement in steering the language change — Gordon reportedly told CNN that "this was the language Donald Trump himself wanted and advocated for back in March [2016]" — is also at odds with what Gordon told Business Insider in January, when he said "neither Mr. Trump nor Mr. Manafort were involved in those sort of details, as they've made clear."
When asked why he told Acosta that Trump did weigh in on the subject, when he told BI in January that neither Trump nor Manafort were involved, Gordon emphasized that he had told BI that Trump was not involved "in the details" of the platform.

"Meaning they weren't part of the process to write, draft, edit the document, or weigh in with the delegates at all," Gordon said in an email. "That said, the overarching thought of better relations with Russia was certainly their strategic position."

Paul Manafort was Trump's campaign manager from April through August. He served as a top adviser to a pro-Russian political party in Ukraine from 2004 to 2012 and helped the Russia-friendly strongman Viktor Yanukovych win the Ukrainian presidency in 2010.

An unverified dossier presented to Trump in January by top US intelligence officials alleges that Trump "agreed to sideline" the issue of Russian intervention in Ukraine during his campaign after Russia promised to feed the emails it stole from prominent Democrats' inboxes to WikiLeaks. The dossier also claims Manafort was receiving "kickback payments" from Yanukovych's associates in Ukraine, where Manafort "had been commercially active ... right up to the time (in March 2016) when he joined campaign team."

Manafort and Trump later denied having anything to do with softening the language of the GOP's platform on Ukraine.

"I wasn't involved in that," Trump said in an interview with ABC after the convention. "Honestly, I was not involved."

But he said his supporters were. "They softened it, I heard, but I was not involved," he said.

'Authority and responsibility to shape the GOP platform'
"There was nothing different in what I told you and Jim," Gordon said in an email, referring to Acosta. "His tweet was an issue of semantics, which I've shared with him just now to ensure we're all on the same page."

"The RNC & Trump Campaign intent @ GOP Platform Week was to 'prevent' adding any glaring contradictions to the draft GOP Platform we brought to Cleveland and previously stated Trump positions," Gordon added. "This included the notion that arming Ukraine would have been contrary to the goal of improved relations with Russia."

"The RNC and Nominee's Campaign have the authority and responsibility to shape the GOP Platform," Gordon said. "Delegates who have their amendments defeated in part and in whole should understand the process."

Gordon said in January that neither Trump nor Manafort was involved in the platform change, however. He also said his only role as a Trump campaign representative at GOP Committee Week — which took place in the week before the RNC's kickoff — was "to monitor the process and facilitate any questions from delegates."

Campaign representatives are not permitted to publicly debate the merits of an amendment at a subcommittee platform meeting, a member of the subcommittee told Business Insider on the condition of anonymity.

Sergey Kislyak
Sergey Kislyak, Russia's ambassador to the US, at a press conference on nuclear nonproliferation at the United Nations headquarters in 2008 in New York City.Getty Mario Tama

USA Today on Thursday reported that Gordon and another former Trump campaign adviser, Carter Page, met with Russia's ambassador to the US, Sergey Kislyak, at the RNC. Gordon said he considered it "an informal conversation just like my interactions with dozens of other ambassadors and senior diplomats in Cleveland."

According to CNN, Gordon said he and Kislyak discussed the Trump campaign's "goal to forge a better US relationship with Russia." He added that he briefed Deputy White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders about the meetings on Thursday, according to CNN.

Sanders told BI in an email that she and Gordon spoke on Thursday "for about three minutes, mostly about the conference logistics — how many people, who put it on, how many ambassadors, etc. It was far from a briefing and JD was a volunteer on an advisory committee on the campaign."

Gordon insisted in January that his only role as a Trump campaign representative at GOP Committee Week — which took place in the week before the RNC's kickoff — was "to monitor the process and facilitate any questions from delegates."

"This is standard practice," he said, "yet the media unfortunately reported it as something out of the ordinary."

Diana Denman, the GOP delegate who proposed amending the Ukraine platform to include the "lethal weapons" language, contradicted Gordon's version of events in an interview with Business Insider in January. She said Gordon and another Trump campaign representative asked the cochairmen of the subcommittee to table the amendment after she read it aloud.

"Two men sitting over to the side of the room — I had no idea who they were but later found out they were Trump representatives — jumped up and tore over to get behind the three cochairmen," she said.

Gordon then left the room to make a phone call, Denman said. Equal parts confused and angry over her proposal being scuttled, Denman said she confronted Gordon about whom he was calling.

"I'm calling New York," Gordon replied, according to Denman.

"I work for Mr. Trump, and I have to clear it," she recalled him saying, apparently in reference to the amendment.

Gordon said in an email at the time that Denman "sought to significantly elevate the Ukraine-Russia issue beyond the already strong position of RNC and Trump campaign," so the language had to be watered down.

But the committee member present at the meeting, who requested anonymity to discuss the deliberations, said "the language of Diana's original amendment didn't seem strong."

"It was controversial if you hold Donald Trump's express views on Russia, but it wasn't controversial with regard to GOP orthodoxy on the issue," the committee member said."This change definitely came from Trump staffers — not from RNC staffers."

http://www.businessinsider.com/jd-gordon-trump-adviser-ukraine-rnc-2017-3

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Trump-Russia conspirator J.D. Gordon begins ratting out Donald Trump

Watergate had John Dean, the co-conpirator who ended up coming clean and taking down Richard Nixon in the process. Based on the events of this evening, it appears the “John Dean” of Donald Trump’s Russia conspiracy may be a guy named J.D. Gordon. He may not be a name you’ve heard up to this point. But he was a Trump campaign national security adviser. He colluded with Russia. And he’s begun ratting out Trump for his complicity in the Russia conspiracy.

J.D. Gordon was one of the three Donald Trump campaign advisers who has exposed today as having met with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak at the Republican National Convention. This is a key development because the Republican Party altered its party platform at the convention to reverse its policy on the Ukraine, in order to favor Russia. Gordon, who then quit the campaign a few weeks after the convention, now says that Trump himself insisted on the party platform change.


CNN reporter Jim Acosta appeared on-air on Thursday night and stated that he had just gotten off the phone with J.D. Gordon. Acosta reports that during the Republican National Convention, Gordon “did have a conversation with the Russian Ambassador.” He says that Gordon met with the Ambassador twice, and that he admits he was part of the effort to change the language of the Republican Party platform during the convention to eliminate an existing pro-Ukraine policy, which worked in Russia’s favor. But here’s the key.

J.D. Gordon insists Donald Trump himself led the charge in pushing for the platform change, and that Trump had been doing so since March of that year – four months before the convention. You can watch Jim Acosta’s CNN report here. In so doing, J.D. Gordon has begun ratting Trump out. He’s making clear that he was acting on Trump’s orders when he altered the party platform in Russia’ favor.
https://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/trump-russia-conspirator-j-d-gordon-begins-ratting-donald-trump/1747/
 
Why would Trump want to lie about this?
Trumptards, try to defend this.
trump is incapable of understanding reality. In his little cocoon, he was always the one with totalitarian power. He'd fire naysayers, refuse to pay for completed work from contractors, and the big one....he'd counter sue anyone that ever challenged him. In trumpy The Clown's world, money was used to strong arm any enemies.

He hasn't figured out that this isn't that. This is the real world where your every word will be fact checked, and challenged. Every lie will be exposed, and addressed. His only defense is to flood the air with so much misinformation, there simply isn't enough time to address all of it.

It served to get him elected, but the time has come when all of the false bravado and strong arm tactics are blowing up in his face.

And still, trumpy is too stupid to recognize that fact. He's actually called for a Congressional investigation that will be the demise of his little fantasy.

He wants to be Nixon, but he doesn't have the IQ. He's going to have to settle for Hitler.
 
When asked why he told Acosta that Trump did weigh in on the subject, when he told BI in January that neither Trump nor Manafort were involved, Gordon emphasized that he had told BI that Trump was not involved "in the details" of the platform.

"Meaning they weren't part of the process to write, draft, edit the document, or weigh in with the delegates at all," Gordon said in an email. "That said, the overarching thought of better relations with Russia was certainly their strategic position."
OMG re-writing a PLATFORM after some dude meets the Russian ambassador.
How fucking stupid would anyone be to collude over PLATFORM language??

Trump's sin is seeking better relations with Russia - the IC Warpigs & McCain c an't stand that.
 
Poor BuckTard; he just keeps flinging his feces at the wall like a clueless little monkey hoping some will stick.

How did that "December Surprise" work out for you dumbfuck? :rofl2:
 
trump is incapable of understanding reality. In his little cocoon, he was always the one with totalitarian power. He'd fire naysayers, refuse to pay for completed work from contractors, and the big one....he'd counter sue anyone that ever challenged him. In trumpy The Clown's world, money was used to strong arm any enemies.

He hasn't figured out that this isn't that. This is the real world where your every word will be fact checked, and challenged. Every lie will be exposed, and addressed. His only defense is to flood the air with so much misinformation, there simply isn't enough time to address all of it.

It served to get him elected, but the time has come when all of the false bravado and strong arm tactics are blowing up in his face.

And still, trumpy is too stupid to recognize that fact. He's actually called for a Congressional investigation that will be the demise of his little fantasy.

He wants to be Nixon, but he doesn't have the IQ. He's going to have to settle for Hitler.

Sadly accurate and well said...
 
OMG re-writing a PLATFORM after some dude meets the Russian ambassador.
How fucking stupid would anyone be to collude over PLATFORM language??

Trump's sin is seeking better relations with Russia - the IC Warpigs & McCain c an't stand that.

Why did Trump and Manafort so emphatically lie about having anything to do with it?
Why did they want to hide it?
 
trump is incapable of understanding reality. In his little cocoon, he was always the one with totalitarian power. He'd fire naysayers, refuse to pay for completed work from contractors, and the big one....he'd counter sue anyone that ever challenged him. In trumpy The Clown's world, money was used to strong arm any enemies.

He hasn't figured out that this isn't that. This is the real world where your every word will be fact checked, and challenged. Every lie will be exposed, and addressed. His only defense is to flood the air with so much misinformation, there simply isn't enough time to address all of it.

It served to get him elected, but the time has come when all of the false bravado and strong arm tactics are blowing up in his face.

And still, trumpy is too stupid to recognize that fact. He's actually called for a Congressional investigation that will be the demise of his little fantasy.

He wants to be Nixon, but he doesn't have the IQ. He's going to have to settle for Hitler.
Fuck me Godwin's Law in one post, is that a record?

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Sources: FBI investigation continues into 'odd' computer link between Russian bank and Trump Organization

Federal investigators and computer scientists continue to examine whether there was a computer server connection between the Trump Organization and a Russian bank, sources close to the investigation tell CNN.

Questions about the possible connection were widely dismissed four months ago. But the FBI's investigation remains open, the sources said, and is in the hands of the FBI's counterintelligence team -- the same one looking into Russia's suspected interference in the 2016 election.
One U.S. official said investigators find the server relationship "odd" and are not ignoring it. But the official said there is still more work for the FBI to do. Investigators have not yet determined whether a connection would be significant.
The server issue surfaced again this weekend, mentioned in a Breitbart article that, according to a White House official, sparked President Trump's series of tweets accusing investigators of tapping his phone.
CNN is told there was no Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant on the server.
The FBI declined to comment. The White House did not respond to a request for comment.
In addition, companies involved have provided CNN with new explanations that at times conflict with each other and still don't fully explain what happened.
The story -- of a possible connection between computer servers -- is a strange tale because there are no specific allegations of wrongdoing and only vague technical evidence.
Internet data shows that last summer, a computer server owned by Russia-based Alfa Bank repeatedly looked up the contact information for a computer server being used by the Trump Organization -- far more than other companies did, representing 80% of all lookups to the Trump server.
It's unclear if the Trump Organization server itself did anything in return. No one has produced evidence that the servers actually communicated.
Slate and The New York Times were first to report the unusual server activity.
The Times said the FBI had concluded there could be an "innocuous explanation." And cybersecurity experts told CNN this isn't how two entities would communicate if they wanted to keep things secret.
But for those who have studied the data, the activity could suggest an intent to communicate by email during a period of time when ties between the Trump Organization and Russia are being closely scrutinized because of Russia's alleged involvement in hacking the emails of the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton campaign chief John Podesta.
This issue intrigued a dozen computer researchers at a recent business conference in Washington, D.C. that pulled together the world's top network operators, the ones who help run the internet. To them, it's a strange coincidence that merits further scrutiny.
Another computer researcher, Richard Clayton of Cambridge University, said it's just plain weird.
"It's not so much a smoking gun as a faint whiff of smoke a long way away. Maybe there's something else going on. It's hard to tell," said Clayton, who has independently examined the scant evidence available.
What is known:
Last year, a small group of computer scientists obtained internet traffic records from the complex system that serves as the internet's phone book. Access to these records is reserved for highly trusted cybersecurity firms and companies that provide this lookup service.
These signals were captured as they traveled along the internet's Domain Name System (DNS).
These leaked records show that Alfa Bank servers repeatedly looked up the unique internet address of a particular Trump Organization computer server in the United States.
In the computer world, it's the equivalent of looking up someone's phone number -- over and over again. While there isn't necessarily a phone call, it usually indicates an intention to communicate, according to several computer scientists.
What puzzled them was why a Russian bank was repeatedly looking up the contact information for mail1.trump-email.com.
Publicly available internet records show that address, which was registered to the Trump Organization, points to an IP address that lives on an otherwise dull machine operated by a company in the tiny rural town of Lititz, Pennsylvania.
From May 4 until September 23, the Russian bank looked up the address to this Trump corporate server 2,820 times -- more lookups than the Trump server received from any other source.
As noted, Alfa Bank alone represents 80% of the lookups, according to these leaked internet records.
Far back in second place, with 714 such lookups, was a company called Spectrum Health.
Spectrum is a medical facility chain led by Dick DeVos, the husband of Betsy DeVos, who was appointed by Trump as U.S. education secretary.
Together, Alfa and Spectrum accounted for 99% of the lookups.
This server behavior alarmed one computer expert who had privileged access to this technical information last year. That person, who remains anonymous and goes by the moniker "Tea Leaves," obtained this information from internet traffic meant to remain private. It is unclear where Tea Leaves worked or how Tea Leaves obtained access to the information.
Tea Leaves gave that data to a small band of computer scientists who joined forces to examine it, several members of that group told CNN, which has also reviewed the data.
Possible explanations
The corporations involved have different theories to explain the server activity. But they haven't provided proof -- and they don't agree.
Alfa Bank has maintained that the most likely explanation is that the server communication was the result of spam marketing. Bank executives have stayed at Trump hotels, so it's possible they got subsequent spam marketing emails from the Trump Organization. Those emails might have set off defensive cybersecurity measures at the bank, whose servers would respond with a cautious DNS lookup. Alfa Bank said it used antispam software from Trend Micro, whose tools would do a DNS lookup to know the source of the spam.
Alfa Bank said it brought U.S. cybersecurity firm Mandiant to Moscow to investigate. Mandiant had a "working hypothesis" that the activity was "caused by email marketing/spam" on the Trump server's end, according to representatives for Alfa Bank and Mandiant. The private investigation is now over, Alfa Bank said.
Computer scientists agree that such an explanation is possible in theory. But they want to see evidence.
Alfa Bank and Mandiant could not point to marketing emails from the time period in question. "Mandiant has found evidence of an old marketing campaign, which... is too old to be relevant," Alfa Bank said in a statement.
CNN reached out to the Trump Organization with detailed technical questions but has not received answers.
Cendyn is the contractor that once operated marketing software on that Trump email domain. In February, it provided CNN a Trump Organization statement that called the internet records "incomplete" and stressed that they do not show any signs of "two-way email communication." That statement lends credibility to the spam marketing theory, because it says the Trump server was set up in 2010 to deliver promotional marketing emails for Trump Hotels. But Cendyn acknowledged that the last marketing email it delivered for Trump's corporation was sent in March 2016, "well before the date range in question."
Spectrum Health told CNN it "did find a small number of incoming spam marketing emails" from "Cendyn, advertising Trump Hotels." But it pointed to emails sent in 2015, long before the May-through-September 2016 time period examined by scientists. Spectrum Health said that it "has not been contacted by the FBI or any government agency on this matter."
Having the Trump Organization server set up for marketing also doesn't explain why Alfa Bank and Spectrum would stand out so much.
"If it were spam, then a lot of other organizations would be doing DNS lookups. There would be evidence of widespread connectivity with devices," said L. Jean Camp, a computer scientist at Indiana University who has studied the data.
Cendyn has also provided another possible explanation, suggesting a highly technical case of mistaken identity.
Cendyn routinely repurposes computer servers -- like the one used by the Trump Organization.
Cendyn's software, like its event planning tool Metron, sends email and thus relies on the 20 different email servers rented by the company. After "a thorough network analysis," Cendyn has said that it found a bank client had used Metron to communicate with AlfaBank.com.
But Alfa Bank starkly denies "any dealings with Cendyn." And, it says, it's unlikely that it received any emails from that server. "Mandiant investigated 12 months of email archives and it found no emails to or from any of the IP addresses given to us by the media."
On Wednesday, Cendyn provided another explanation to CNN. Cendyn claims the Trump Hotel Collection ditched Cendyn and went with another email marketing company, the German firm Serenata, in March 2016. Cendyn said it "transferred back to" Trump's company the mail1.trump-email.com domain.
Serenata this week told CNN it was indeed hired by Trump Hotels, but it "never has operated or made use of" the domain in question: mail1.trump-email.com.
Upon hearing that Cendyn gave up control of the Trump email domain, Camp, said: "That does not make any sense to me at all. The more confusing this is, the more I think we need an investigation."
Other computer experts said there could be additional lookups that weren't captured by the original leak. That could mean that Alfa's presence isn't as dominant as it seems. But Dyn, which has a major presence on the internet's domain name system, spotted only two such lookups — from the Netherlands on August 15.
Alfa Bank insists that it has no connections to Trump. In a statement to CNN, Alfa Bank said neither it, bank cofounder Mikhail Fridman and bank president Petr Aven "have had any contact with Mr. Trump or his organizations. Fridman and Aven have never met Mr. Trump nor have they or Alfa Bank had any business dealings with him. Neither Alfa Bank nor its officers have sent Mr. Trump or his organization any emails, information or money. Alfa Bank does not have and has never had any special or exclusive internet connection with Mr. Trump or his entities."
 
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