Missing Howard Dean -- and Jesse Jackson

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Missing Howard Dean

January 22, 2009

Where is Howard Dean? Republicans certainly haven't forgotten him, with candidate after candidate for RNC chair and local GOP leaders belatedly praising Dean (after mocking him for years) and calling for their own version of the fifty-state strategy, which revived the Democratic Party across the country, starting at the grassroots--especially in long-forgotten red states, many of which turned purple or blue in 2006 and '08. What was once a controversial point has now become obvious: Dean's trailblazing presidential campaign and tenure as DNC chair laid the foundation for Barack Obama's historic fifty-state campaign. Dean took one of the most thankless jobs in Washington and transformed the way the party did business and won elections, without pomp or pretension, which for a politician of his stature is remarkable.

Yet for all his successes, Dean has become a virtual stranger in his own party, with no place in the incoming Obama administration. On January 8, the day Obama announced his choice of Virginia Governor Tim Kaine to lead the DNC, Dean was on a trip to American Samoa--the last territory he had yet to visit as party chair--leading to speculation, subsequently confirmed, that he'd been snubbed by the Obama team, even as Obama publicly praised Dean as a "visionary and effective leader." Moreover, Dean has been passed over for cabinet slots such as secretary of health and human services and surgeon general, which concern his original passion and area of expertise, healthcare reform. If Rahm Emanuel, who bitterly opposed the fifty-state strategy in '06, can be Obama's chief of staff, then Dean should have a place somewhere in Obama's administration. That would be a true "team of rivals." It's a distressing sign when Bill Kristol and Obama's conservative dining buddies get treated better than Dean.

If he's not on the inside, then we hope Dean will stay active on the outside. His confidants say Dean plans to enter the private sector, teach, give speeches about healthcare reform and help political parties around the world succeed at bottom-up, progressive politics. It's our hope that Dean will continue to oxygenate the grassroots at home, working with groups like Democracy for America (run by his brother Jim), Wellstone Action, and Progressive Majority to recruit and train the next generation of progressive leaders. As Obama said in his January speech at the DNC, "We must build a movement for change that can endure beyond a single election, and that will require redoubling our efforts to reach out to Americans throughout our fifty states, north and south, east and west." Dean still has a vital role to play in such an effort.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090209/editors3?rel=hp_currently

I would add to that, where is Jesse Jackson, without whom Obama would not be the president. It was Jackson who brought proportinal representation to the Democratic Party, without which Hillary Clinton would be president.

Of course, the answer to both questions is obvious. Obama has no place in his administration for liberals or progressives .. and like all democratic centrists, he takes liberals for granted.

Unfortunately, liberals are easy to take for granted because they are hopelessly timid.
 
I don't know if he has no place for liberals or progressives - the R's are attempting to kill his big progressive appointment, Sect of Labor - but I agree totally about Dean. He was right, and he got f'd by Emmanual for it.
 
I don't know if he has no place for liberals or progressives - the R's are attempting to kill his big progressive appointment, Sect of Labor - but I agree totally about Dean. He was right, and he got f'd by Emmanual for it.

Isn't it odd the R's are challenging Obama's only progressive appointment?

Dean got fucked by the DLC and Emanuel, who then took credit for Dean's strategy.

Face it .. Obama has no place for liberals or progressives .. who elected him .. if all he has to offer them is Sec. of Labor.
 
I personally detest Dean but you have to give the man props for sheer political skill. The Democrats were transformed from a "coastline" party which hinged on the direction of Florida or Ohio to a viable party capable of competing in many, though maybe not most, of the heartland states.
 
Isn't it odd the R's are challenging Obama's only progressive appointment?

Dean got fucked by the DLC and Emanuel, who then took credit for Dean's strategy.

Face it .. Obama has no place for liberals or progressives .. who elected him .. if all he has to offer them is Sec. of Labor.

It doesn't look great. I would have loved to see Dean get sect of health. He has always been a favorite of mine.
 
I personally detest Dean but you have to give the man props for sheer political skill. The Democrats were transformed from a "coastline" party which hinged on the direction of Florida or Ohio to a viable party capable of competing in many, though maybe not most, of the heartland states.

Yeah and the biggest opposition he had to that strategy came from Emanual. I remember reading especially during the last midterms, Emanual was at his throat constantly. I want money for this race, I want money for that race, forget the other races. But Dean stood firm, and his vision has come to pass.

And he got kicked to the curb even so, all because the guy who was wrong, Emanual, happens to be close buddies with the new President. It really does suck.
 
Yeah and the biggest opposition he had to that strategy came from Emanual. I remember reading especially during the last midterms, Emanual was at his throat constantly. I want money for this race, I want money for that race, forget the other races. But Dean stood firm, and his vision has come to pass.

And he got kicked to the curb even so, all because the guy who was wrong, Emanual, happens to be close buddies with the new President. It really does suck.

Yeah I remember Emanuel doing his thing in 2006. He helped to pull off some clinchers in the House races that year, but I think Dean's strategy is definitely a more viable option for the Democrats in the long term.
 
Missing Howard Dean



I would add to that, where is Jesse Jackson, without whom Obama would not be the president. It was Jackson who brought proportinal representation to the Democratic Party, without which Hillary Clinton would be president.

Of course, the answer to both questions is obvious. Obama has no place in his administration for liberals or progressives .. and like all democratic centrists, he takes liberals for granted.

Unfortunately, liberals are easy to take for granted because they are hopelessly timid.

figuring out to chop obama's nuts off??
 
Looks like most replies dodge the Jessie Jackson point though.

I do not dodge much.
Imho any govt. is better off without Jackson.

Has Jessie Jackson ever worked a real job?
All I can find is where he headed this or that organization, etc....
 
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Looks like most replies dodge the Jessie Jackson point though.

I do not dodge much.
Imho any govt. is better off without Jackson.

Has Jessie Jackson ever worked a real job?
All I can find is where he headed this or that organization, etc....

I appreciate that.

I wouldn't expect Jackson to be appointed to any government role .. but his input on issues like poverty, equity, and social justice has helped the democrats stay grounded for a lot of years.

If Obama can make time for Rush Limbaugh, an absolute woman-hating, race-baiting, warmongering lunatic, then surely he can find time for Jackson.

If he can find time to listen to the likes of George Will and Bill Kristol, then surely he can find time for Dean.
 
I do find it interesting that Obama is making time for the media and such and all Bush did for years was hide.
 
I appreciate that.

I wouldn't expect Jackson to be appointed to any government role .. but his input on issues like poverty, equity, and social justice has helped the democrats stay grounded for a lot of years.

If Obama can make time for Rush Limbaugh, an absolute woman-hating, race-baiting, warmongering lunatic, then surely he can find time for Jackson.

If he can find time to listen to the likes of George Will and Bill Kristol, then surely he can find time for Dean.

So, simply mentioning Limbaugh is "finding time for" him? I've never realized that. I've "found" time for many people who don't influence me other than by irritation factor. And I've mentioned them in much the same manner.
 
So, simply mentioning Limbaugh is "finding time for" him? I've never realized that. I've "found" time for many people who don't influence me other than by irritation factor. And I've mentioned them in much the same manner.

Actually I misspoke on limbaugh and thought he was part of the right-wing cabal that lunched with Obama .. although the rest of my description of him still stands.

Sure, you can find time for people you don't agree with, but you'd best make time for those who helped get you where you are .. which is kinda' my point.
 
Actually I misspoke on limbaugh and thought he was part of the right-wing cabal that lunched with Obama .. although the rest of my description of him still stands.

Sure, you can find time for people you don't agree with, but you'd best make time for those who helped get you where you are .. which is kinda' my point.

He's been in office for 7 days.. Give him a bit more time.

So far we got people upset that he didn't go to the ball with the old fogeys who have won the National Defense Medal or whatever it was, people who are upset because he said, of all things, "I won.", still more upset because he hasn't invited Jesse Jackson to the White House...

He's had 7 days he can't do everything at once, we haven't unlocked the time space continuum enough to make that possible for him.

Everybody is upset that he didn't pay more attention to them, but he's trying to actually get something done. I may not agree with it what he wants to pass, but Jesse Jackson isn't instrumental in passing his "stimulus" plan.

I'm sure Jesse will have a larger role in Obama's administration than that he has had in Bush's.
 
He's been in office for 7 days.. Give him a bit more time.

So far we got people upset that he didn't go to the ball with the old fogeys who have won the National Defense Medal or whatever it was, people who are upset because he said, of all things, "I won.", still more upset because he hasn't invited Jesse Jackson to the White House...

He's had 7 days he can't do everything at once, we haven't unlocked the time space continuum enough to make that possible for him.

Exactly Damo. Even I will give the man more time than that. I hate what he has done to empower abortionists but I am still waiting to wail on him. Hope I don't have to.
 
He's been in office for 7 days.. Give him a bit more time.

So far we got people upset that he didn't go to the ball with the old fogeys who have won the National Defense Medal or whatever it was, people who are upset because he said, of all things, "I won.", still more upset because he hasn't invited Jesse Jackson to the White House...

He's had 7 days he can't do everything at once, we haven't unlocked the time space continuum enough to make that possible for him.

Everybody is upset that he didn't pay more attention to them, but he's trying to actually get something done. I may not agree with it what he wants to pass, but Jesse Jackson isn't instrumental in passing his "stimulus" plan.

I'm sure Jesse will have a larger role in Obama's administration than that he has had in Bush's.

Sound, rational, and logical thought my brother, and I even agree with what you said about Jackson.

However, let me add an activist perspective .. assume nothing about government. Obama should know there are those he needs watching him. He should know there is dissent just beneath the surface on the left .. even if liberals and progressives get in the way.

Additionally, this isn't just about Obama or even just about politics my brother. It's about truth and clarity. Truth doesn't change because your guy won .. not you personally of course. Obama didn't win on truth, he won on politics .. and politics can never be trusted to tell or act on the truth. That must be demanded and forced through the violence of intelligent society and an intelligent and demanding citizenry .. made up of citizens, not subjects.

If and when Obama makes time and space for Dean and Jackson, I'll cross that off the list of things to question about him. Dean, Jackson, Sanders, Kucinich, and others represent an element on the left that see them as leaders. Flawed as all leaders are, but they represent what I'd consider the real left, not liberals, not moderates, and certainly not centrists, thus not Barack Obama. They are not "blue dog democrats", not the DLC.

But what they represent transcends politics and speaks to societal and philosophical changes that are coming to America. Those who believe in what they represent have to ensure their contributions remain part of the political discourse. Obama has said and done enough already to demonstrate the course he plans in Afghanistan is dangerous and part of the same mindset that brought us the invasion of Iraq.

Voices for soft power. intelligent action, and diplomacy need a seat at the table and those who support that have a responsibility to demand that seat.
 
Exactly Damo. Even I will give the man more time than that. I hate what he has done to empower abortionists but I am still waiting to wail on him. Hope I don't have to.

Empower abortionist? He has given birth control back to women so, maybe, there won't be a need for the abortionist!

Do you ever see it that way?
 
Empower abortionist? He has given birth control back to women so, maybe, there won't be a need for the abortionist!

Do you ever see it that way?

Nope. I see it just how they report it:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7847651.stm

"US President Barack Obama has lifted a ban on federal funding for foreign family planning agencies that promote or give information about abortion.

The US is one of the biggest supporters of family planning programmes globally, but former president George W Bush blocked funds for abortion services."

Because that is just how it is. Now, because of Barak Obama, I am forced to support something (via my tax dollars) that is murder.
 
Empower abortionist? He has given birth control back to women so, maybe, there won't be a need for the abortionist!

Do you ever see it that way?

Do you ever see abortion as does leaningright?

The funding is equal, it just now includes places that give abortions.
 
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