Military patrols start Friday night in downtown Columbus

Yurt said:
i didn't realize military troops could patrol civilian areas without martial law
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Sort of. They technically have no police powers, even with military members. They can however make legal orders to soldiers.
Nothing like martial law at all. Even if the SNCOs weren't with the police, they still have the legal military authority to give orders off base to members outside their command.
 
King of Guns said:
Sort of. They technically have no police powers, even with military members. They can however make legal orders to soldiers.
Nothing like martial law at all. Even if the SNCOs weren't with the police, they still have the legal military authority to give orders off base to members outside their command.
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right...but they are still patrolling in a police fashion and my understanding is that martial law needs to be declared...this should not be happening at all...it sets very bad precedent
 
Yurt said:
right...but they are still patrolling in a police fashion and my understanding is that martial law needs to be declared...this should not be happening at all...it sets very bad precedent
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Then your understanding of the situation is flawed. Martial law needs to be declared for the military to have legal authority over civilians. They have no such authority and the police are almost certainly the originators of this program.
 
King of Guns said:
Then your understanding of the situation is flawed. Martial law needs to be declared for the military to have legal authority over civilians. They have no such authority and the police are almost certainly the originators of this program.
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i don't care where this originated....its wrong. our military has no jurisdiction in civilian areas. they should not be patrolling at all. if they came across military persons involved in a crime, they have no authority to "do" anything....other than what a normal civilian can do.
 
Yurt said:
i don't care where this originated....its wrong. our military has no jurisdiction in civilian areas. they should not be patrolling at all. if they came across military persons involved in a crime, they have no authority to "do" anything....other than what a normal civilian can do.
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No... they always have had the authority to order military persons. Even in matters that are not included in civilian law. I had to have a clean shaven face every day, even if I was on leave. If I was found out in town without one, I could still be charged.
 
King of Guns said:
No... they always have had the authority to order military persons. Even in matters that are not included in civilian law. I had to have a clean shaven face every day, even if I was on leave. If I was found out in town without one, I could still be charged.
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thats different...they couldn't arrest you off base for not shaving...once you come back on base...then they have jurisdiction over you.
 
Yurt said:
and you do not have to obey that order, unless you want to continue in the military

thus...we have established the patrols are toothless...and imo...should not be happening
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You got a mouse in your pocket or something? What's this "we" shit?

You haven't established anything other than that you have strong and stupid opinions about the most irrelevant shit.
 
NigelTufnel said:
You got a mouse in your pocket or something? What's this "we" shit?

You haven't established anything other than that you have strong and stupid opinions about the most irrelevant shit.
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i'm surprised a far left liberal supports military action like this....

the "we" is capt and me dumbass.....perhaps you should take the mouse out of your pocket instead of worrying about possible mice in other poster's pockets
 
Yurt said:
i'm surprised a far left liberal supports military action like this....
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What military action? Having senior officers make sure that the people under their command don't act like a bunch of assholes? Yeah, I have no problem with that,


Yurt said:
the "we" is capt and me dumbass.....perhaps you should take the mouse out of your pocket instead of worrying about possible mice in other poster's pockets
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I'll let Billy speak for himself, but I suspect he doesn't agree with your jackassery.
 
NigelTufnel said:
What military action? Having senior officers make sure that the people under their command don't act like a bunch of assholes? Yeah, I have no problem with that,




I'll let Billy speak for himself, but I suspect he doesn't agree with your jackassery.
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so the far left liberal WANTS AND AGREES that our military SHOULD PATROL our civilian streets.....

amazing
 
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